important message everyone

This_person

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:jameo:
JPC sr said:
:jameo: That is exactly what mainstream Christianity has done (incorrectly),

they are putting a "responsibility" onto the free gift of salvation.

On Judgement day everybody will believe and everyone will confess and every knee shall bow and Christ paid the price for us all.

The conditions are already done, and the responsibility is already paid in full.

Everybody everywhere gets saved in the end, but for now people are confused. :bigwhoop:
Not true. You have to actually read the Bible, discuss it with some people, LEARN, Jimmy. You're not telling it the way the Bible does.

Unless.....Oh, my goodness. This explains so much. :shocking:

Jimmy, are you the PROPHET from DEADBEATLAND? Is that why you have no morals by Christian standards, yet claim so much Christianity?? You have spoken directly with God, and he's told you how all previously written is to change, based upon YOUR interpretation, right!! :jameo:
 

JPC sr

James P. Cusick Sr.
Scofflaw and Personal Responsibility.

ItalianScallion said:
There is a responsibility just as with a Christmas or birthday present. You have to accept it!
:jameo: That is putting a human standard onto a Godly action.

People give gifts and presents while expecting some thing in return.

When Christ gave his message the people did not want it, did not accept Christ, but He gave the free gift to the unthankful world anyway.

Nobody asked for it and nobody needs to accept it. It is much like being born in that the baby / the person does not ask to be born and they do not have the option of accepting it or not.

Everybody gets saved whether we like it or not.

God our father is not a democracy and there is no vote.
ItalionScallion said:
Everyone will "confess" in the end but not everyone will be saved because they cannot wait until after death to believe.
:jameo: That again is just human reasoning onto Godly actions.

The Judgement Day is equivolent to "love thy enemies" and Christ paid the price in full for everyone - including His enemies.
ItalionScallion said:
That would render faith useless.
:jameo: Most churches teach faith incorrectly and so most people have a mistaken understanding of faith.

When we do meet our Maker then we will need far stronger faith then what we need now.
ItalionScallion said:
Everyone could just live as they want now and get saved after they die???
:jameo: That is the point that we people can destroy ourselves or repent right now.

But on judgement Day we all get forgiven and then start all over again.

But we people can not live in any way now because we reap what we sow. If we lie then we get burned, if we murder then one goes to jail or live in fears, when people break the commandments or the principles then they reap a hard and uncomfortable living here and now.

Nobody escapes anything, we all get punished and we all get saved.
ItallionScallion said:
Very UNBIBLICAL JPC!
:jameo: I am one of those Bible scholars that study the Bible to extremes. I like extremes.

There is a book in the Bible call "Judges" and that gives us a vivid example of what the Judgement Day will be like. The Judges will not be there to condemn people but to give judgements in what is right and wrong.

Worldly Judges are different then Godly Judges. :elaine:
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
JPC sr said:
:jameo: That is exactly what mainstream Christianity has done (incorrectly),

they are putting a "responsibility" onto the free gift of salvation.
Everyone is wrong but you just like child support.
JPC sr said:
On Judgement day everybody will believe and everyone will confess and every knee shall bow and Christ paid the price for us all.
But on judgment day it is too late. Those that did not accept Jesus as Savior and Lord before judgment will be cast into the lake of fire. Do you ever read the Bible and understand it? You cannot just pick and choose what you want to believe in the Bible. It is either the word of God and totally trustworthy or it is not and none of it is trustworthy.
JPC sr said:
The conditions are already done, and the responsibility is already paid in full.
The price is paid in full, but the condition of agreement with God and acceptance of Jesus is the responcibility of every person. If a person does not accept Jesus as Savior then they have rejected Jesus and the gift of salvation through grace.
JPC sr said:
Everybody everywhere gets saved in the end, but for now people are confused. :bigwhoop:
You are the sepent's tool and a liar just like him.
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
JPC sr said:
:jameo: That is putting a human standard onto a Godly action.
No it is not. It is stating the Biblical standard.
JPC sr said:
People give gifts and presents while expecting some thing in return.

When Christ gave his message the people did not want it, did not accept Christ, but He gave the free gift to the unthankful world anyway.

Nobody asked for it and nobody needs to accept it. It is much like being born in that the baby / the person does not ask to be born and they do not have the option of accepting it or not.

Everybody gets saved whether we like it or not.
Lie and not in the Bible.
JPC sr said:
God our father is not a democracy and there is no vote. :jameo: That again is just human reasoning onto Godly actions.

The Judgement Day is equivolent to "love thy enemies" and Christ paid the price in full for everyone - including His enemies. :jameo: Most churches teach faith incorrectly and so most people have a mistaken understanding of faith.

When we do meet our Maker then we will need far stronger faith then what we need now. :jameo: That is the point that we people can destroy ourselves or repent right now.

But on judgement Day we all get forgiven and then start all over again.
Liar!
JPC sr said:
But we people can not live in any way now because we reap what we sow. If we lie then we get burned, if we murder then one goes to jail or live in fears, when people break the commandments or the principles then they reap a hard and uncomfortable living here and now.

Nobody escapes anything, we all get punished and we all get saved. :jameo: I am one of those Bible scholars that study the Bible to extremes. I like extremes.
You are not a scholar of anything. You are a liar.
JPC sr said:
There is a book in the Bible call "Judges" and that gives us a vivid example of what the Judgement Day will be like. The Judges will not be there to condemn people but to give judgements in what is right and wrong.

Worldly Judges are different then Godly Judges. :elaine:
Have you ever read the book of Judges? You haven't a clue what it says. Again, you speak as an authority on something you know nothing about.

Lies, lies, and more lies. You are full of half-truths which are lies. You are as deceptive as satan was in the garden.

Be gone in the name of Jesus.
 

MMDad

Lem Putt
JPC sr said:
:when people break the commandments or the principles then they reap a hard and uncomfortable living here and now.
Think about this one. Is your life easy and comfortable? Why not? Have you reaped what you have sown?
 
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residentofcre

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ronald205nc said:
Has anyone cared enough to share the truth about Heaven with you?

The Holy Bible describes Heaven as a beautiful place where people live forever with no death, sorrow, sickness and pain. {Revelation 21:4}

Hell is described as a place of suffering forever for all those who are not saved. {Matthew 13:50}

The good news is that about 2000 years ago Jesus Christ(God the Son) paid for everyone's sins or wrong doing by dying on the cross and rising from the dead after three days. {Mark 10:34}

God the Son came as a sinless man. {Philippians 2:5-8}

Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no one cometh unto God(The Father), but by me." {John 14:6} He is our ONLY way to God(The Father) in Heaven.

The Holy Bible says, "That if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God(The Father) raised Jesus Christ from the dead, you will be saved." {Romans 10:9}

You should not wait until later to get saved because you may die before you get another chance and you will miss Heaven.

If you want to be sure you will go to Heaven after this life is over just pray a meaningful prayer like the one below with your mouth and from your heart right now to God and you will be saved.

Dear God I want to be saved. Dear Jesus Christ Son of God I want to make you my personal Lord and Savior. Please forgive me of my sins or things I have done wrong in my life. Thanks Jesus Christ for taking my punishment for my sins by shedding your sinless blood on the cross and dying for my sins. Jesus Christ I now confess you as my Lord and believe in my heart that God(The Father) raised you from the dead. Amen.

If you just allowed God to save you then welcome to the family of God because you are now a Christian on your way to Heaven.

Awesome message.... thanks for sharing it...
 

MMDad

Lem Putt
residentofcre said:
Awesome message.... thanks for sharing it...

I don't know which one is worse. JPC for claiming that it doesn't matter what you do, or those praising this dolt for saying all you have to do is recite a prayer you read on the internet.

Last time I checked, there was just a little more involved, like baptism and actually living the teachings. Of course, our society does like the easy way out, and this quick prayer certainly provides it.
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
MMDad said:
I don't know which one is worse. JPC for claiming that it doesn't matter what you do, or those praising this dolt for saying all you have to do is recite a prayer you read on the internet.

Last time I checked, there was just a little more involved, like baptism and actually living the teachings. Of course, our society does like the easy way out, and this quick prayer certainly provides it.
Baptism with water is only a requirement of some denominations. The Bible speaks of two types of baptism, in the Spirit and with water. Baptism in the Spirit is essential; water baptism is just an outward sign of obedience. Of course there are those that are hard over on water baptism; I just don't see it as a requirement in the Bible. The essential is belief, faith, God is real, He came as Jesus and died and rose from the dead, He died for all humankind's sins. He comes to us and lives in us as the Holy Spirit when we believe.

Acts 16:22-33

22The crowd rose up together against them, and the chief magistrates tore their robes off them and proceeded to order them to be beaten with rods.

23When they had struck them with many blows, they threw them into prison, commanding the jailer to guard them securely;

24and he, having received such a command, threw them into the inner prison and fastened their feet in the stocks.

25But about midnight Paul and Silas were praying and singing hymns of praise to God, and the prisoners were listening to them;

26and suddenly there came a great earthquake, so that the foundations of the prison house were shaken; and immediately all the doors were opened and everyone's chains were unfastened.

27When the jailer awoke and saw the prison doors opened, he drew his sword and was about to kill himself, supposing that the prisoners had escaped.

28But Paul cried out with a loud voice, saying, "Do not harm yourself, for we are all here!"

29And he called for lights and rushed in, and trembling with fear he fell down before Paul and Silas,

30and after he brought them out, he said, "Sirs, what must I do to be saved?"

31They said, "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household."

32And they spoke the word of the Lord to him together with all who were in his house.

33And he took them that very hour of the night and washed their wounds, and immediately he was baptized, he and all his household.
Notice no mention of water in the baptism and that the baptism was instant for the jailer and his entire family?

I don't read where Paul takes the jailer and the family to the river or watering trough and dunks them all at the same time. I read the passage as the Holy Spirit came on all of them at the same time.
 

Toxick

Splat
JPC sr said:
But on judgement Day we all get forgiven and then start all over again.

Could you please cite a relevant passage, which when read, in context, means this?


JPC sr said:
I am one of those Bible scholars that study the Bible to extremes.

Bible scholar.

No doubt.


JPC sr said:
I like extremes.

And they like you.



JPC sr said:
There is a book in the Bible call "Judges" and that gives us a vivid example of what the Judgement Day will be like.

I haven't studied the book of Judges in detail, but I have read it.

Twice.

I don't remember this part. I seem to remember a historical narrative of Hebrew magistrates.

Perhaps you're confusing Judges with Revelation?






A common mistake.
 

JPC sr

James P. Cusick Sr.
Scofflaw and Personal Responsibility.

Toxick said:
Could you please cite a relevant passage, which when read, in context, means this?
:jameo: I probably can not do it to suit most people because pearls before swine do not work but I will try.

On Judgement Day everybody is forgiven and saved to start over again is included in many text and it is the underlying theme of the whole Bible.

Text:

Love thy enemies, Christ paid price in full, forgive as they know not what they do, every knee shall bow, every tongue shall confess, God does not desire that anyone get lost, do right to those that despitefully use you,

those and many more Bible passages tell us that everybody gets saved.

If people were burning in a hell then God would be a sinner and Christ would be a hypocrite and we would all be doomed.
Toxick said:
Bible scholar.

I haven't studied the book of Judges in detail, but I have read it.

Twice.

I don't remember this part. I seem to remember a historical narrative of Hebrew magistrates.
:jameo: Yes, that is it, the book of Judges is like a big parable that shows us in human earthly terms what the big Judgements will be like and how it works.

The people go to the Judges to learn what is right and what is wrong and not to be punished in a Hell or liberated to a Heaven.

Thy Kingdom come on earth as it is in Heaven. And not take earth to Heaven.
Toxick said:
Perhaps you're confusing Judges with Revelation?

A common mistake.
:jameo: No, not a mistake for me, I know the difference between Judges and Revelations. :whistle:
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
JPC sr said:
:jameo: I probably can not do it to suit most people because pearls before swine do not work but I will try.

On Judgement Day everybody is forgiven and saved to start over again is included in many text and it is the underlying theme of the whole Bible.

Text:

Love thy enemies, Christ paid price in full, forgive as they know not what they do, every knee shall bow, every tongue shall confess, God does not desire that anyone get lost, do right to those that despitefully use you,

those and many more Bible passages tell us that everybody gets saved.

If people were burning in a hell then God would be a sinner and Christ would be a hypocrite and we would all be doomed. :jameo: Yes, that is it, the book of Judges is like a big parable that shows us in human earthly terms what the big Judgements will be like and how it works.

The people go to the Judges to learn what is right and what is wrong and not to be punished in a Hell or liberated to a Heaven.

Thy Kingdom come on earth as it is in Heaven. And not take earth to Heaven.
:jameo: No, not a mistake for me, I know the difference between Judges and Revelations. :whistle:
Hey liar, Toxic was asking for scripture from the Bible not the writing of JPC, Sr. the lunitic.
 

JPC sr

James P. Cusick Sr.
Scofflaw and Personal Responsibility.

MMDad said:
Think about this one. Is your life easy and comfortable? Why not? Have you reaped what you have sown?
:jameo: Yes indeed, I do reap what I have sown.

But it is not an all or nothing devise.

We sow and reap the possitive and the negative all at the same time,

so one minute is nice and the next day is miserable like back and forth. :crazy:
 

JPC sr

James P. Cusick Sr.
Scofflaw and Personal Responsibility.

2ndAmendment said:
Hey liar, Toxic was asking for scripture from the Bible not the writing of JPC, Sr. the lunitic.
:jameo: I gave him Bible text that are very well known around the world.

But here is one Matthew 5:43-45

so God does as He says and we can not love our enemies if we are torturing the enemies in a Hell of fire.

Neither God nor Christ is a liar nor a hypocrite that says one thing and does another.

Thus everybody everywhere gets saved in the end, particularly the enemies. :howdy:
:wench:
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
JPC sr said:
:jameo: I gave him Bible text that are very well known around the world.

But here is one Matthew 5:43-45

so God does as He says and we can not love our enemies if we are torturing the enemies in a Hell of fire.

Neither God nor Christ is a liar nor a hypocrite that says one thing and does another.

Thus everybody everywhere gets saved in the end, particularly the enemies. :howdy:
:wench:
If it is truly a lack of understanding, I suggest you quit giving scriptural advise. If you continue, then you will probably be held responsible for any soul that is lost because you lead them into a false belief.

The Truth is:
  • Jesus died for all.
  • You must agree with God and accept the gift of salvation. It is an a purposeful action on a persons part. It is not passive and it does not happen by accident or automatically.
  • If a person does not accept Jesus (implies that the person has heard the gospel), then they will be cast into the lake of fire known as hell.
  • Every knee will bow and every tongue confess that Jesus is Lord at the judgment, but it will be too late for those that are not the Lord's children already.
  • Everyone does not get saved. Jesus said so.

When you say everyone gets saved, you lie and you make Jesus out to be a liar (in case you might wonder, that is not a good thing).
 

Midnightrider

Well-Known Member
2ndAmendment said:
If it is truly a lack of understanding, I suggest you quit giving scriptural advise. If you continue, then you will probably be held responsible for any soul that is lost because you lead them into a false belief.

The Truth (AS 2ndA sees it )is:
  • Jesus died for all.
  • You must agree with God and accept the gift of salvation. It is an a purposeful action on a persons part. It is not passive and it does not happen by accident or automatically.
  • If a person does not accept Jesus (implies that the person has heard the gospel), then they will be cast into the lake of fire known as hell.
  • Every knee will bow and every tongue confess that Jesus is Lord at the judgment, but it will be too late for those that are not the Lord's children already.
  • Everyone does not get saved. Jesus said so.

When you say everyone gets saved, you lie and you make Jesus out to be a liar (in case you might wonder, that is not a good thing).
But as i rememeber, he isn't a catholic, so he has it all wrong..... oh thats a different thread :lmao:
 
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