Interesting case of "criminal justice"

crabcake

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Can't help but wonder how coincidental it is that the guys' foot got wedged in between the gas and brake pedals, pinning the "alleged" thief. :whistle:

SELMA - First, the four-wheeler was gone. Then, weed-eaters and chain saws for his lawn-care business disappeared. In less than a year, John Reid lost about $25,000 worth of equipment.

On Thursday, Reid pulled into his driveway about 1:30 p.m. to find an Oldsmobile Cutlass with one of his augers in its open trunk. Reid, who said his foot slipped, rammed the car.


Cornelius Brown, 40, of Dudley was critically injured after being crushed between his Cutlass and a fence. His companion was arrested.
 

theArtistFormerlyKnownAs

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why does he even say his foot slipped? he has a right to protect his property lol. it would have been perfectly legal to just drive into him purposely...as opposed to "accidentally".
 

Sonsie

The mighty Al-Sonsie!
No tears shed over a lowlife thief, too bad his partner in crime didn't get some of that too.
 

MMDad

Lem Putt
why does he even say his foot slipped? he has a right to protect his property lol. it would have been perfectly legal to just drive into him purposely...as opposed to "accidentally".

What gives you that idea? Why do you think it is legal to use deadly force against someone who is not threatening you or another human?
 

~mellabella~

New Member
why does he even say his foot slipped? he has a right to protect his property lol. it would have been perfectly legal to just drive into him purposely...as opposed to "accidentally".

I don't know about legal, since he wasn't protecting himself, but this is a major case of CYA- Cover Your Ass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Xaquin44

New Member
What gives you that idea? Why do you think it is legal to use deadly force against someone who is not threatening you or another human?

I wouldn't think twice about running over some bastard that was stealing from my home.
 

theArtistFormerlyKnownAs

Well-Known Member
What gives you that idea? Why do you think it is legal to use deadly force against someone who is not threatening you or another human?

easy.

"officer, for all i knew that bastard was grabbing a gun out of the car. i had no idea what that maniac was going to, or could, do so i protected myself."
 

MMDad

Lem Putt
easy.

"officer, for all i knew that bastard was grabbing a gun out of the car. i had no idea what that maniac was going to, or could, do so i protected myself."
That's not what you said:

why does he even say his foot slipped? he has a right to protect his property lol. it would have been perfectly legal to just drive into him purposely...as opposed to "accidentally".
You said it was perfectly legal to protect his property, not himself. Why?
 

theArtistFormerlyKnownAs

Well-Known Member
That's not what you said:

You said it was perfectly legal to protect his property, not himself. Why?

I was relating it to the circumstance...

he is protecting his property. does he ACTUALLY have to think that the guy has a gun? no...but that is another way to CYA...cops do it all the time :lmao: *he's got a gun! o, it was a cellphone? dam*

i guess maybe i should have worded it differently. it is not legal in maryland to just "protect your property". you cannot shoot someone in the back as they are running out the front door with your tv (especially if they get outside...)

i'm just saying what I'D have done to make it legal lol
 

godsbutterfly

Free to Fly
easy.

"officer, for all i knew that bastard was grabbing a gun out of the car. i had no idea what that maniac was going to, or could, do so i protected myself."

Things are getting pretty strict nowadays and I would think you'd have to prove your life was being endangered. Any law enforcement folks out there today?
 

kom526

They call me ... Sarcasmo
I'm sorry that the guy got hurt," Reid said. "I hope he makes it. I hate that it happened."
:fingerscrossed::sarcasm::lmao:

State laws dictate whether deadly force can be used to protect property. I think AZ is a case in point, where the man who owned the salvage business and shot and killed a dirtbag. :searchtime: The guy had over $25,000 stolen from his business, which is taking food from him and his family, I say more power to him. The bastard should feel lucky that his foot didn't get stuck again.
 
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ImnoMensa

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He should have hit him harder, then he wouldnt be facing a possible law suit.

When his foot slipped it should have slipped a little harder.

Is a lawnmower and a weed whacker worth a persons life?

Hell yeah ! if its mine and he is stealing it. He buys his ticket,he takes his chances.
 

smcop

New Member
Things are getting pretty strict nowadays and I would think you'd have to prove your life was being endangered. Any law enforcement folks out there today?

I could speak for the Southern Maryland Jurisdictions. A property owner who reasonably felt they were in fear of death or serious bodily injury from a person committing the crime of burglary would have no legal consequences for the use of deadly force. The prosecutors would presume any reasonable account the home owner provided to be truthful and accurate.
 

godsbutterfly

Free to Fly
I could speak for the Southern Maryland Jurisdictions. A property owner who reasonably felt they were in fear of death or serious bodily injury from a person committing the crime of burglary would have no legal consequences for the use of deadly force. The prosecutors would presume any reasonable account the home owner provided to be truthful and accurate.

And that settles the matter for me. Thank you!
 

crabcake

But wait, there's more...
FYI: the thief that was crushed died yesterday. :whistle:

Reid, 37, of 955 Hawkins Road in Selma told a 911 operator and sheriff's investigators that Brown's death was an accident, after his foot slipped on the gas pedal.


Brown's widow sees it differently.


"It was cold-blooded murder," said Lenora Gardner Hargrove, 41, of Dudley.

:duh: Yea, her husband was such an upstanding member of society. :sarcasm:

Brown had a lengthy criminal record dating to the early 1980s, including charges of larceny and breaking and entering, according to court records. He was convicted of being a habitual felon in 1996.

Sounds to me like justice caught up with his dumb, criminal ass. :shrug:
 
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