Internet search/investigation question

[citysherry]

What if the "sexual offender" got caught taking a leak in an alley-way when he was, say, 19 years old. That qualifies as indencent exposure, which is a sexual offence.

Not sure what degree that is - or if it matters - but I do know that indecent exposure is a sex offense, and something silly like that is no cause for alarm.

I highly doubt that in this scenario, he would be required to register under a court order.

 

[Ken King]

What if the "sexual offender" got caught taking a leak in an alley-way when he was, say, 19 years old. That qualifies as indencent exposure, which is a sexual offence.

Not sure what degree that is - or if it matters - but I do know that indecent exposure is a sex offense, and something silly like that is no cause for alarm.

I don't think indecent exposure makes the cut. Those required to register are:
(a) A person shall register with the person's supervising authority if the person is:

(1) a child sexual offender;

(2) an offender;

(3) a sexually violent offender;

(4) a sexually violent predator;

(5) a child sexual offender who, before moving into this State, was required to register in another state or by a federal, military, or Native American tribal court for a crime that occurred before October 1, 1995;

(6) an offender, sexually violent offender, or sexually violent predator who, before moving into this State, was required to register in another state or by a federal, military, or Native American tribal court for a crime that occurred before July 1, 1997; or

(7) a child sexual offender, offender, sexually violent offender, or sexually violent predator who is required to register in another state, who is not a resident of this State, and who enters this State:

(i) to carry on employment; or

(ii) to attend a public or private educational institution, including a secondary school, trade or professional institution, or institution of higher education, as a full-time or part-time student.

Offender is defined as;
d) "Offender" means a person who is ordered by a court to register under this subtitle and who:

(1) has been convicted of violating child abduction or kidnapping statutes under § 3-503 of the Criminal Law Article;

(2) has been convicted of violating § 3-502 of the Criminal Law Article or the fourth degree sexual offense statute under § 3-308 of the Criminal Law Article, if the victim is under the age of 18 years;

(3) has been convicted of the common law crime of false imprisonment, if the victim is under the age of 18 years and the person is not the victim's parent;

(4) has been convicted of a crime that involves soliciting a person under the age of 18 years to engage in sexual conduct;

(5) has been convicted of violating the child pornography statute under § 11-207 of the Criminal Law Article;

(6) has been convicted of violating any of the prostitution and related crimes statutes Title 11, Subtitle 3 of the Criminal Law Article if the intended prostitute or victim is under the age of 18 years;

(7) has been convicted of a crime that involves conduct that by its nature is a sexual offense against a person under the age of 18 years;

(8) has been convicted of an attempt to commit a crime listed in items (1) through (7) of this subsection; or

(9) has been convicted in another state or in a federal, military, or Native American tribal court of a crime that, if committed in this State, would constitute one of the crimes listed in items (1) through (8) of this subsection.

 

[geminigrl]

I don't think indecent exposure makes the cut. Those required to register are:
(a) A person shall register with the person's supervising authority if the person is:

(1) a child sexual offender;

(2) an offender;

(3) a sexually violent offender;

(4) a sexually violent predator;

(5) a child sexual offender who, before moving into this State, was required to register in another state or by a federal, military, or Native American tribal court for a crime that occurred before October 1, 1995;

(6) an offender, sexually violent offender, or sexually violent predator who, before moving into this State, was required to register in another state or by a federal, military, or Native American tribal court for a crime that occurred before July 1, 1997; or

(7) a child sexual offender, offender, sexually violent offender, or sexually violent predator who is required to register in another state, who is not a resident of this State, and who enters this State:

(i) to carry on employment; or

(ii) to attend a public or private educational institution, including a secondary school, trade or professional institution, or institution of higher education, as a full-time or part-time student.

Offender is defined as;
d) "Offender" means a person who is ordered by a court to register under this subtitle and who:

(1) has been convicted of violating child abduction or kidnapping statutes under § 3-503 of the Criminal Law Article;

(2) has been convicted of violating § 3-502 of the Criminal Law Article or the fourth degree sexual offense statute under § 3-308 of the Criminal Law Article, if the victim is under the age of 18 years;

(3) has been convicted of the common law crime of false imprisonment, if the victim is under the age of 18 years and the person is not the victim's parent;

(4) has been convicted of a crime that involves soliciting a person under the age of 18 years to engage in sexual conduct;

(5) has been convicted of violating the child pornography statute under § 11-207 of the Criminal Law Article;

(6) has been convicted of violating any of the prostitution and related crimes statutes Title 11, Subtitle 3 of the Criminal Law Article if the intended prostitute or victim is under the age of 18 years;

(7) has been convicted of a crime that involves conduct that by its nature is a sexual offense against a person under the age of 18 years;

(8) has been convicted of an attempt to commit a crime listed in items (1) through (7) of this subsection; or

(9) has been convicted in another state or in a federal, military, or Native American tribal court of a crime that, if committed in this State, would constitute one of the crimes listed in items (1) through (8) of this subsection.

Thanks for the info, I didn't think indecent exposure was included.

 

[citysherry]

What if the "sexual offender" got caught taking a leak in an alley-way when he was, say, 19 years old. That qualifies as indencent exposure, which is a sexual offence.

Not sure what degree that is - or if it matters - but I do know that indecent exposure is a sex offense, and something silly like that is no cause for alarm.

Toxick, according to KK's info., you can now take a leak in alley-way and not have to worry about ending up on the Register -- unless someone under the age of 18 is in the alley with you and/or a prostitute.

 

[Toxick]

I don't think peeing outside qualifies as a sexual offense, maybe indecent exposure, but not a sexual offense.

Then you think wrongly. Indecent exposure is indeed a sexual offense. Ranges from taking a leak behind some shrubbery on Rt 2&4 right up to throwing open your trenchcoat and shaking your wing-wang at old ladies.

Whether those people get listed or not, I don't know.

It is a cause for alarm when you have pervs living in your neighborhood and you have kids.

You don't have to tell me. I have three kids. My point is, definitely keep the radar up, but don't label someone as a perv until you know that they're a perv.

If someone up my road was guilty of trying to buy a knobber from an undercover cop 6 years ago, I'd be a heck of a lot less worried than if someone was running a child porno ring down the street.

And go search through the registered offenders and see if you find any with indecent exposure listed as the charge.

That's the thing... All I've ever seen is crap like "fourth degree" or "second degree", which doesn't tell me much, since I don't know what the definitions are.

If they really wanted to be useful, they'd change that degree crap to english, like "Rape", "Statutory Rape", "Solicitation of Prostitution" or "Peeping Tom".

 

[citysherry]

If they really wanted to be useful, they'd change that degree crap to english, like "Rape", "Statutory Rape", "Solicitation of Prostitution" or "Peeping Tom".

Of course, until I found out what a 4th degree child sex crime was, I was truly panicked about this guy living in my development. I will, however, be very vigilant with regard to my kids safety.

 

[Tonio]

If they really wanted to be useful, they'd change that degree crap to english, like "Rape", "Statutory Rape", "Solicitation of Prostitution" or "Peeping Tom".

I agree. Or at least give a one-sentence explanation in the offender registry. I think most people who aren't lawers or police officers hear "sex offense" and instantly assume that's rape or child molestation.

 

[Warron]

It is the misdemeanor charge of sexual contact without consent of another. What you discribe would be a third degree sexual offense, a felony.

Here is what I found on it.

http://mlis.state.md.us/cgi-win/web_statutes.exe?gcr&3-308

§ 3-308.
(a) A person may not engage in:

(1) sexual contact with another without the consent of the other;

(2) except as provided in § 3-307(a)(4) of this subtitle, a sexual act with another if the victim is 14 or 15 years old, and the person performing the sexual act is at least 4 years older than the victim; or

(3) except as provided in § 3-307(a)(5) of this subtitle, vaginal intercourse with another if the victim is 14 or 15 years old, and the person performing the act is at least 4 years older than the victim.

(b) A person who violates this section is guilty of the misdemeanor of sexual offense in the fourth degree and on conviction is subject to imprisonment not exceeding 1 year or a fine not exceeding $1,000 or both.



§ 3-307(a)(4) is A person may not: engage in a sexual act with another if the victim is 14 or 15 years old, and the person performing the sexual act is at least 21 years old; or

§ 3-307(a)(5) A person may not: engage in vaginal intercourse with another if the victim is 14 or 15 years old, and the person performing the act is at least 21 years old.

§ 3-307(b) says: A person who violates this section is guilty of the felony of sexual offense in the third degree and on conviction is subject to imprisonment not exceeding 10 years.


So it seems that if the party is under 21 but 4 years older then the victim and the victim is 14 or 15, then 3-308 applies and it is a misdemeanor. But if the party is 21+ or the victim in under 14 and the party 4 or more years older, then it is a felony. With the exception of 3-307(a)(1) and 3-308(a)(1) which both cover sexual contact without consent and 3-307(a)(2) which covers mentally handicapped and helpless individuals, it all sounds like what many people refer to as statutory rape. But of course, I didn't see any mention of consent in there anywhere so I'll just let you all try to figure it out.

Not that any of this tells us specifically what this particular person did.

 

[citysherry]

Warron, this is the info that pops up when you click on this particular person on the Register:

*Sex Offense Fourth Degree (Criminal Law Article, § 3-308) of a child under age 15 and ordered by the court to register.

*This offense is applicable only to those individuals whose crime was committed on or after October 1, 1995.


EDITED to add: IMO, from this guy's picture he looks to be well into his thirties!

 

[Warron]

Warron, this is the info that pops up when you click on this particular person on the Register:

At least its only a person with a misdemeanor charge. Some people get to live by a lot worse.

 

[Danzig]

IN CASE YOU MISSED IT

If I had this freak on my street, I would know EVERY thing on his record.

Fourth degree would concern me; many times a person is guilty of a higher crime and plea down to a lesser charge. I would go to the court house in the county or counties of the crime or crimes and look at the court and arrest records, Very easy and legal to do. Keep a throw away camera near your front door or window and if you ever see this person talking to kids take a few pics and call the police ASAP.

 

[citysherry]

[QUOTEAt least its only a person with a misdemeanor charge. Some people get to live by a lot worse.[/QUOTE]

You're preaching to the choir, I grew up in North East, DC.

 

[citysherry]

IN CASE YOU MISSED IT

If I had this freak on my street, I would know EVERY thing on his record.

Fourth degree would concern me; many times a person is guilty of a higher crime and plea down to a lesser charge. I would go to the court house in the county or counties of the crime or crimes and look at the court and arrest records, Very easy and legal to do. Keep a throw away camera near your front door or window and if you ever see this person talking to kids take a few pics and call the police ASAP.

I did see it and thanks.

 

[geminigrl]

You don't have to tell me. I have three kids. My point is, definitely keep the radar up, but don't label someone as a perv until you know that they're a perv.

I do keep a radar up, but you can have pervs in your neighborhood who aren't registered, who are just pervs. And I didn't label anyone a perv, they put the label on themselves.

 

[Tonio]

Danzig has the right idea. But still, why are these vermin in our neighborhoods to begin with? They are a danger to society. They can never be "cured." Keep them locked up for the rest of their lives. Isn't the whole idea of prison to protect society from people who are a demonstrated danger to the community?

 

[geminigrl]

Danzig has the right idea. But still, why are these vermin in our neighborhoods to begin with? They are a danger to society. They can never be "cured." Keep them locked up for the rest of their lives. Isn't the whole idea of prison to protect society from people who are a demonstrated danger to the community?

Wouldn't it great just to keep them locked up for the rest of their lives and never put them back in society. All in favor.