Is Charles Co. Racist?

Shannie0308

New Member
kwillia said:
eclark, they would have to place him under arrest and aprehend him before they could search him. They were in the process of 'aprehend'... he chose to pull the gun rather than let them find it.

Someone has explained that to her before, she's just choosing to ignore the facts, and the way things work legally.
 
What if the police woke Johnny up and because the recognized him from past arrests, immediately searched him, found the gun and charged him with possession. I'm sure the outrage would of been all about him being profiled and illegally searched. Think about what you are saying eclark.
 

eclark

New Member
That is true, the bottom line is a life was lost. I said from the jump racisim is not just about color, but where you come from, where you live, your family, your past. Sometimes I feel alot better when I see a white police offier in charles county verses a black officer and sometimes it's the other way all depends on what the situation is and what neighbor hood I'm in.
 

ylexot

Super Genius
eclark said:
Like some one said before that neighbor hood is known for certain things, those police know what go on down their, they sit around in plain cars all day long watching the streets, they know who goes in and out and what their driving, what their names are what their nicknames are. I just can't believe they would find some one drunk slumped over in their car that ran over a curb and almost hit a building in the (MEADOWS) and not search them, yhea right maybe in white oak but not in the (MEADOWS).
Are you saying that the cops should search anyone in that neighborhood any time that they have to talk to them? And if that's the case, you woulnd't call that racist?
 

Nupe2

Well-Known Member
eclark said:
You are so funny scum Hahaha is that the best you can come up with. Worthless maybe to you, and his body is evidence but what are they hiding. Like some one said before that neighbor hood is known for certain things, those police know what go on down their, they sit around in plain cars all day long watching the streets, they know who goes in and out and what their driving, what their names are what their nicknames are. I just can't believe they would find some one drunk slumped over in their car that ran over a curb and almost hit a building in the (MEADOWS) and not search them, yhea right maybe in white oak but not in the (MEADOWS).

"e": I'm going to take a chance in this forum and pass along some words of hope for you and for any you chose to share them with. A lot of people here and elsewhere in this country have problems with Jesse Jackson. Unfortunately, he brought a lot of them on himself. That being said, I will never forget his speech to the Democratic convention in 1988. I believe he delivered his finest speech ever. A speech that delivered a message of hope to all of us, no matter what our struggles, no matter what pain we are forced to endure. Hopefully, his words will help you now and in the future. This forum is a place for free and open discussion. Some of the discussions are painful to read and to accept but a lot of the sentiment here is valuable. Maybe you and others will learn from this discourse and perhaps, just maybe, from Jesse too.

"Jesse Jackson, you don't understand my situation. You be on television. You don't understand. I see you with the big people. You don't understand my situation."

I understand. You see me on TV, but you don't know the me that makes me, me. They wonder, "Why does Jesse run?" because they see me running for the White House. They don't see the house I'm running from.

I have a story. I wasn't always on television. Writers were not always outside my door. When I was born late one afternoon, October 8th, in Greenville, South Carolina, no writers asked my mother her name. Nobody chose to write down our address. My mama was not supposed to make it, and I was not supposed to make it. You see, I was born of a teen-age mother, who was born of a teen-age mother.

I understand. I know abandonment, and people being mean to you, and saying you're nothing and nobody and can never be anything.

I understand. Jesse Jackson is my third name. I'm adopted. When I had no name, my grandmother gave me her name. My name was Jesse Burns 'til I was 12. So I wouldn't have a blank space, she gave me a name to hold me over. I understand when nobody knows your name. I understand when you have no name.

I understand. I wasn't born in the hospital. Mama didn't have insurance. I was born in the bed at [the] house. I really do understand. Born in a three-room house, bathroom in the backyard, slop jar by the bed, no hot and cold running water. I understand. Wallpaper used for decoration? No. For a windbreaker. I understand. I'm a working person's person. That's why I understand you whether you're Black or White. I understand work. I was not born with a silver spoon in my mouth. I had a shovel programmed for my hand.

My mother, a working woman. So many of the days she went to work early, with runs in her stockings. She knew better, but she wore runs in her stockings so that my brother and I could have matching socks and not be laughed at at school. I understand.

At 3 o'clock on Thanksgiving Day, we couldn't eat turkey because momma was preparing somebody else's turkey at 3 o'clock. We had to play football to entertain ourselves. And then around 6 o'clock she would get off the Alta Vista bus and we would bring up the leftovers and eat our turkey -- leftovers, the carcass, the cranberries -- around 8 o'clock at night. I really do understand.

Every one of these funny labels they put on you, those of you who are watching this broadcast tonight in the projects, on the corners, I understand. Call you outcast, low down, you can't make it, you're nothing, you're from nobody, subclass, underclass; when you see Jesse Jackson, when my name goes in nomination, your name goes in nomination.

I was born in the slum, but the slum was not born in me. And it wasn't born in you, and you can make it.

Wherever you are tonight, you can make it. Hold your head high; stick your chest out. You can make it. It gets dark sometimes, but the morning comes. Don't you surrender!

Suffering breeds character, character breeds faith. In the end faith will not disappoint.

You must not surrender! You may or may not get there but just know that you're qualified! And you hold on, and hold out! We must never surrender!! America will get better and better.

Keep hope alive. Keep hope alive! Keep hope alive! On tomorrow night and beyond, keep hope alive!

I love you very much. I love you very much."
 
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ylexot

Super Genius
eclark said:
That is true, the bottom line is a life was lost. I said from the jump racisim is not just about color, but where you come from, where you live, your family, your past.
And I and others told you "from the jump" that those things are not racism. Those are not race related. By definition, they cannot be racism (which is prejudice based on race). Those things are simply prejudice...probably better classified as class-based prejudice.
 

eclark

New Member
No I'm not saying that you search any one walking, but under the circumstances you would have thought they would have search him at first it's the meadows they take precation.
 

dcooper

New Member
Well May Be You Should Come And Live In The County Then You Will Know What Its Like To Live By The Sword And Die By One
 

LADYT

New Member
dcooper said:
To ALL WHOM HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT THE BLACK MAN KNOW AS JOHNNIE! YES THE COUNTY IS RACIST AND YES IT'S VERY HARD FOR A BLACK MAN OR EVEN A WHITE MAN, TO GET INTO HIGH POSITION'S IN THE COUNTY BUT YOU KNOW THAT LIFE IS WHAT YOU MAKE IT. IT'S JUST LIKE RAISING A BABY WHEN THE CHILD FALLS YOU PICK HIM UP FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE CALLING EACH OTHER STUPID AND DUMB FOR THE COMMENT THAT CERTAIN ISSUES ARE BROUGHT ON YOURSELF THAT IS TRUE IF YOU LIVE BY THE SWORD YOU WILL DIE BY THE SWORD. BUT IN CHARLES COUNTY THERE IS ONLY ONE SWORD THAT WE ALL HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT NOT RUNNING UP AND IT'S THE POLICE THE POLICE IN CHARLES COUNTY ARE VERY NASTY AND NOT TO BE TRUSTED YOU SEE THIS SHOOTING IT GOES WAY BEYOND THIS MATTER. THERE IS A LOT OF THINGS PEOPLE DONT KNOW BECAUSE PEOPLE DONT TALK, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THIS IF JOHNNIE SHOT AT A OFFICER OF THE LAW THAN HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN INJURED AS WELL. THAT TELL'S ME THAT SHOOTING THE OFFICER WAS TRYING TO KILL INSTEAD OF INJURING THE SUSPECT. I CANNOT SAY THAT THE OFFICER WAS A RACIST PERSON BUT I CAN SAY THAT HE IS THE ONE WHO HAS TO ANSWER TO THE ONE PERSON ABOUT IF WHAT HE DID WAS RIGHT OR WRONG ONLY GOD CAN BE THE JUDGE OF WHAT THE OFFICER DID TO JOHNNIE HE IS LIVING WITH IT AS WE SPEAK. AND GOD TOOK JOHNNIE FROM US TO USE HIM AS OUR BACK BONE TO HELP US BLACK'S AND WHITE'S LEARN HOW DO WE DEAL WITH TRAGEDY BECAUSE THIS IS A TRAGEDY AND IM NOT GOD BUT THIS WILL HAPPEN AGAIN AND AGAIN UNTIL WE ALL COME TOGETHER AND TRY TO LIVE TOGETHER AS ONE AND NOT BLACK AND WHITE I HAVE LIVED IN LAPLATA MARYLAND ALL MY LIFE AND YES THE POLICE KILLED MY UNCLE GREGORY COOPER AND HIS FRIEND 30 YEARS AGO THEY HAVE A WAY TO COVER UP A GRAVE TO MAKE IT LIKE IT WAS NEVER A GRAVE THERE. IN THE WORLD TODAY IT'S NOT WHAT YOU KNOW IT'S WHO YOU KNOW AND I THINK THAT WE ALL KNOW THAT GOD BLESS THE LYLES AND COOPER FAMILY IN THE TIME OF MOURNING ,BECAUSE REGARDLES OF HOW YOU OR I FEEL ABOUT THE SITUATION A LIFE WAS LOST AND THAT IS WHAT IT ALL ABOUT LIFE BECAUSE ONE DAY MY LIFE AND YOUR LIFE WILL END, I JUST HOPE NOT BY A GUN SHOT BY A ROBBER OR A COP
Your message is nothing but the absolute truth. So to all that read the above message. That is the truth a life has been lost.
 

Shannie0308

New Member
eclark said:
No I'm not saying that you search any one walking, but under the circumstances you would have thought they would have search him at first it's the meadows they take precation.

Searching without probable cause is not allowed. Regardless of the area. That alone would be grounds for dismissing any charges brought against him later on.
 

mAlice

professional daydreamer
LADYT said:
Your message is nothing but the absolute truth. So to all that read the above message. That is the truth a life has been lost.

I couldn't understand it. :shrug:
 
dcooper said:
Just Like I Said That's What Im Talking About And If You Dont Understand It Then Shut Up
Got it...
 

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mainman

Set Trippin
dcooper said:
Just Like I Said That's What Im Talking About And If You Dont Understand It Then Shut Up
Kindly remove your head from your rectum sir....

And as far as shutting up....

God gave me a mouth and I'll say whatever the #### I wanna say....or in this case.........fingers...
 

Nupe2

Well-Known Member
mainman said:
Kindly remove your head from your rectum sir....

And as far as shutting up....

God gave me a mouth and I'll say whatever the #### I wanna say....or in this case.........fingers...

:jerry:
 

eclark

New Member
So what is probable cause? If he was slumped over drunk, and ran over a curb, and nearly hit an apartment building, and I forgot to add as was mentioned earlier by the (man or lady with all the facts) he was trepassing, so why not search him at first. Maybe they did, maybe they didn't find anything physically on him.
 

fddog

Bow wow
eclark said:
So what is probable cause? If he was slumped over drunk, and ran over a curb, and nearly hit an apartment building, and I forgot to add as was mentioned earlier by the (man or lady with all the facts) he was trepassing, so why not search him at first. Maybe they did, maybe they didn't find anything physically on him.
So your saying, they planted the gun on him. :faint: OMFG
 
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