Is it just me, or...

[bresamil]

IF the seller is doing all the proper vet care / checks, etc, well... not much.

But, unless they like hemmorhaging money out the wazoo, there is no WAY that anyone that is taking the time and expense to to things the proper way would be selling pups for $25.

Health issues. Genetic issues. Disease.

Half those pups are propably loaded with hookworm if not worse...

Last time I was at the farmers market there were 4 dog sellers - 3 Amish and a man with pit puppies in his coat . 2 of the Amish sellers had mixed breeds and no vetting, one Amish had taken his pups to the vet for worming and first shots and had paperwork on all of them. If I were to buy there it would be from the man who took care of his pups.

 

[terbear1225]

Most people that sell animals cheap are doing it to try and insure that someone is actually willing to spend money on the pet.
one of my daughters cats were obtained that way. She is a Tabby that was born in a barn here in Davidsonville, an outdoor start to her life. The guy was charging 10 bucks each for the kittens. We got her, but he didn't actually take the 10 bucks, he just wanted to see that we were willing to give it.

The cat is still alive happy and healthy, makes all the vet appointments and will continue to do so. She also has never been outside since the day we brought her home.

The biggest cry for people to spay and neuter seems to come from those closest to the business of selling.. I wonder why that is.

I have absolutely nothing invested in the vet business but I am a huge proponent of spaying and neutering. I've seen first hand what happens to animals that are overpopulated or not cared for properly but continue to breed. if you can't care for the young ones, it's your responsibility to make sure there aren't any (kind of how I feel about people too)

 

[bcp]

I have absolutely nothing invested in the vet business but I am a huge proponent of spaying and neutering. I've seen first hand what happens to animals that are overpopulated or not cared for properly but continue to breed. if you can't care for the young ones, it's your responsibility to make sure there aren't any (kind of how I feel about people too)

so you suggest spaying and neutering welfare recipients?

 

[hvp05]

But, unless they like hemmorhaging money out the wazoo, there is no WAY that anyone that is taking the time and expense to to things the proper way would be selling pups for $25.

uppymill:

Some end up getting humanely euthanized at the shelter; which in my opinion is better than living on the end of a chain, being abused and neglected.

There's the other side: not knowing who's buying. Any person with $25 (or $50 ) can get a puppy. The seller's primary concern is getting their money, not the puppy's future; that should be a sign.

I have absolutely nothing invested in the vet business but I am a huge proponent of spaying and neutering. I've seen first hand what happens to animals that are overpopulated or not cared for properly but continue to breed. if you can't care for the young ones, it's your responsibility to make sure there aren't any (kind of how I feel about people too)

Can't add anything to that (including the closing phrase).

 

[TurboK9]

I have absolutely nothing invested in the vet business but I am a huge proponent of spaying and neutering. I've seen first hand what happens to animals that are overpopulated or not cared for properly but continue to breed. if you can't care for the young ones, it's your responsibility to make sure there aren't any (kind of how I feel about people too)

I think it depends on who you are specifically referring to.

If you are referring to bonafide breeders who take the time and effort to do what they can to ensure a reduction in congenital and other health issues, and follow proper health care guidelines, it is likely because they know just how intensive proper breeding is... and how unpleasant and costly it can be to do it right. Many of these people also rent / lease / donate kennel space to rescues, or have their share of rescues incorporated into the home. I don't know a single breeder of working dogs that I find respectful, for instance, that does not have broad experience in animal rescue.

Then of course you have other camps, such as those who sell pups out of boxes for $25. If you hear it from them, I'd guess it's an effort to make them appear to care more about the animals than say, they do about raising a few bucks for tickets to the next lawn tractor race, or a 24 pack of Pabst. Or perhaps, this was a bonafide accidental litter and they have learned a lesson, and are trying to pass it on...

 

[terbear1225]

so you suggest spaying and neutering welfare recipients?

I suggest welfare reciepients ought to be responsible enough to not have children they can't support.

 

[terbear1225]

I think it depends on who you are specifically referring to.

If you are referring to bonafide breeders who take the time and effort to do what they can to ensure a reduction in congenital and other health issues, and follow proper health care guidelines, it is likely because they know just how intensive proper breeding is... and how unpleasant and costly it can be to do it right. Many of these people also rent / lease / donate kennel space to rescues, or have their share of rescues incorporated into the home. I don't know a single breeder of working dogs that I find respectful, for instance, that does not have broad experience in animal rescue.

Then of course you have other camps, such as those who sell pups out of boxes for $25. If you hear it from them, I'd guess it's an effort to make them appear to care more about the animals than say, they do about raising a few bucks for tickets to the next lawn tractor race, or a 24 pack of Pabst. Or perhaps, this was a bonafide accidental litter and they have learned a lesson, and are trying to pass it on...

i was referring more to people that have repeated "accidental" litters that do nothing to ensure the health and welfare of the animals. responsible breeders or even bona fide accidental litters that are given proper veterinary attention are a different thing in my opinion. especially if the owner is responsible enough to prevent any future accidents after the fact.

 

[bcp]

I suggest welfare reciepients ought to be responsible enough to not have children they can't support.

Well we know from experience that that, is not going to happen.

By the way, all animals that come into my house are nuetered/spayed as soon as they reach that magic age.
but then, that was MY choice.

 

[KDENISE977]

Pur bred dog fer sale, 10$-100$, show kwality, ACA registerd

 

[frequentflier]

Most people that sell animals cheap are doing it to try and insure that someone is actually willing to spend money on the pet.
one of my daughters cats were obtained that way. She is a Tabby that was born in a barn here in Davidsonville, an outdoor start to her life. The guy was charging 10 bucks each for the kittens. We got her, but he didn't actually take the 10 bucks, he just wanted to see that we were willing to give it.

The cat is still alive happy and healthy, makes all the vet appointments and will continue to do so. She also has never been outside since the day we brought her home.

The biggest cry for people to spay and neuter seems to come from those closest to the business of selling.. I wonder why that is.

If you are referring to me and my businesses, for the record I do not breed or sell animals of any kind. I support and are very generous to animal welfare and rescue groups. I also raise money for SPOT thrift shop which provides free spay and neutering to animals owned by people that cannot afford it. (or say they cannot)
My businesses sell pet supplies and gifts but that in no way means I encourage people to continue with contributing to the overpopulation and backyard breeding of animals.