Is it just me?

Toxick

Splat
Or does anyone else think that this is a hostile act of war by a foreign nation on American soil?




It really sounds like one. Shouldn't we be treating these hostiles as enemy combatants?
 

ylexot

Super Genius
If it's not organized/supported by the Mexican government, then I wouldn't consider it to be a "hostile act of war by a foreign nation on American soil". I'm sure Vicente Fox is happy about it, but if they aren't pushing for it to happen, then they aren't doing it.
 

crabcake

But wait, there's more...
amnesty for illegal immigrants

If we don't condone the breaking of other laws in this country (murder, rape, assault, robbery, etc.), why should we condone this one? :shrug:

"We want full amnesty, full legalization for anybody who is here (illegally)," Rodriguez said. "That is the message that is going to be played out across the country on May 1."

Well guess what, Rodriguez ... people in hell want ice water; that don't mean they get it. GFY! :yay:
 
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crabcake

But wait, there's more...
First it'll be the illegal mexicans; then it'll be the illegal arabs; then we'll have the sequel to 9/11 played out on our soil. :duh:

:smack: Bush for supporting this :bs:
 

MMDad

Lem Putt
Toxick said:
Or does anyone else think that this is a hostile act of war by a foreign nation on American soil?




It really sounds like one. Shouldn't we be treating these hostiles as enemy combatants?
The funny part is that they are going to try to shut down the cities where their political base lives. As if that won't backfire!
 

vraiblonde

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Doesn't anyone but me find it deliciously ironic that illegals are going to be walking out of jobs and schools that they're not supposed to be at anyway?

I think we should encourage them to make it a whole week. Hell, make it a month! Better yet, they should REALLY show us and make it a year-long boycott!

Vive la revolucion.
 

crabcake

But wait, there's more...
vraiblonde said:
Doesn't anyone but me find it deliciously ironic that illegals are going to be walking out of jobs and schools that they're not supposed to be at anyway?

I hope they gather up as many of them as they can, arrest 'em and deport their stupid asses.
 

vraiblonde

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crabcake said:
I hope they gather up as many of them as they can, arrest 'em and deport their stupid asses.
I think they should stick it to us and make it a permanent boycott! That'll teach us a lesson we'll never forget!
 

Nupe2

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As with most issues, we tend to pay more attention the closer they hit home. My son's girlfriend is Estonian and has been here legally and employed as and Au Pair (spelling?) while attending college. Because she is not a U.S. citizen she was not eligible for student loans. She worked, learned English, studied and eventually enrolled in school, paying her own way, and graduated this past year. She has been accepted into grad school and is now trying to get the funds to pay her tuition. She is bright, talented and a hard worker. Nevertheless, if she does not get the funding to attend grad school she will have to return to Estonia, possibly forever.

Despite the apparent unfairness, it's not, the laws are in place and have been put in place by the legislators elected by the American voters. She came here willingly under those laws and may have to leave in accordance with those same laws. If she has to abide by AMERICAN law, so should all others who wish to live and work here. I think the immigration issue is pretty plain..if you want to immigrate, follow the procedures stipulated under the law. If you come here outside of the legal process, you are a criminal and subject to the penalties also stipulated by law.
 
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Wenchy

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Nupe2 said:
As with most issues, we tend to pay more attention the closer they hit home. My son's girlfriend is Estonian and has been here legally and employed as and Au Pair (spelling?) while attending college. Because she is not a U.S. citizen she was not eligible for student loans. She worked, learned English, studied and eventually enrolled in school, paying her own way, and graduated this past year. She has been accepted into grad school and is now trying to get the funds to pay her tuition. She is bright, talented and a hard worker. Nevertheless, if she does not get the funding to attend grad school she will have to return to Estonia, possibly forever.

Despite the apparent unfairness, it's not, the laws are in place and have been put in place by the legislators elected by the American voters. She came here willingly under those laws and may have to leave in accordance with those same laws. If she has to abide by AMERICAN law, so should all others who wish to live and work here. I think the immigration issue is pretty plain..if you want to immigrate, follow the procedures stipulated under the law. If you come here outside of the legal process, you are a criminal and subject to the penalties also stipulated by law.


I love my Nupe. :huggy:

We should start a forum fund to keep her here. What's her major?
 

Nupe2

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Wenchy said:
I love my Nupe. :huggy:

We should start a forum fund to keep her here. What's her major?

Back Atcha, Wenchy My Dear! :huggy: Believe it or not she is a Photojournalism major! She is a great photographer and has worked as an intern at the National Press Club and has photographed several cabinet members from the current administration. She's currently trying to land an internship with the Washington Post so keep your fingers crossed. :yay:
 
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Wenchy

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Nupe2 said:
Back Atcha, Wenchy My Dear! :huggy: Believe it or not she is a Photojournalism major! She is a great photographer and has worked as an intern at the National Press Club and has photographed several cabinet members from the current administration. She's currently trying to land an internship with the Washington Post so keep your fingers crossed. :yay:

Fingers are crossed.
 

Nupe2

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Nupe2 said:
As with most issues, we tend to pay more attention the closer they hit home. My son's girlfriend is Estonian and has been here legally and employed as and Au Pair (spelling?) while attending college. Because she is not a U.S. citizen she was not eligible for student loans. She worked, learned English, studied and eventually enrolled in school, paying her own way, and graduated this past year. She has been accepted into grad school and is now trying to get the funds to pay her tuition. She is bright, talented and a hard worker. Nevertheless, if she does not get the funding to attend grad school she will have to return to Estonia, possibly forever.

Despite the apparent unfairness, it's not, the laws are in place and have been put in place by the legislators elected by the American voters. She came here willingly under those laws and may have to leave in accordance with those same laws. If she has to abide by AMERICAN law, so should all others who wish to live and work here. I think the immigration issue is pretty plain..if you want to immigrate, follow the procedures stipulated under the law. If you come here outside of the legal process, you are a criminal and subject to the penalties also stipulated by law.

This is probably in poor taste: :lol:

Como con la mayor#a de las ediciones, tendemos para prestar más atención que más cerca golpean a casa. La novia de mi hijo es estonia y ha estado aqu# legalmente y empleado como y par del au (el deletreo?) mientras que atiende a la universidad. Porque ella no es un ciudadano de ESTADOS UNIDOS ella no era elegible para los préstamos de estudiante. Ella trabajó, aprendió el inglés, estudiado y alistado eventual en la escuela, pagando su propia manera, y graduado este último año. La han aceptado en escuela del grad y ahora está intentando conseguir los fondos para pagar su cuota. Ella es brillante, talentosa y trabajador duro. Sin embargo, si ella no consigue el financiamiento para atender a la escuela del grad ella tendrá que volver a Estonia, posiblemente por siempre. A pesar de la injusticia evidente, no está, los leyes están en lugar y han sido puestos en lugar por los legisladores elegidos por los votantes americanos. Ella vino aqu# dispuesto bajo esos leyes y puede tener que irse de acuerdo con esos mismos leyes. Si ella tiene que seguir la ley AMERICAN, tan si todos los otros que desean vivir y trabajar aqu#. Pienso que la edición de la inmigración es plain..if bonito que usted desea immigrate, sigue los procedimientos estipulados bajo ley. Si usted viene aqu# fuera del proceso legal, usted es un criminal y conforme a las penas también estipuladas por la ley.
 

vraiblonde

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Nupe2 said:
As with most issues, we tend to pay more attention the closer they hit home. My son's girlfriend is Estonian and has been here legally and employed as and Au Pair (spelling?) while attending college. Because she is not a U.S. citizen she was not eligible for student loans. She worked, learned English, studied and eventually enrolled in school, paying her own way, and graduated this past year. She has been accepted into grad school and is now trying to get the funds to pay her tuition. She is bright, talented and a hard worker. Nevertheless, if she does not get the funding to attend grad school she will have to return to Estonia, possibly forever.

Despite the apparent unfairness, it's not, the laws are in place and have been put in place by the legislators elected by the American voters. She came here willingly under those laws and may have to leave in accordance with those same laws. If she has to abide by AMERICAN law, so should all others who wish to live and work here. I think the immigration issue is pretty plain..if you want to immigrate, follow the procedures stipulated under the law. If you come here outside of the legal process, you are a criminal and subject to the penalties also stipulated by law.
Well said, Nupe. :yay:

Has she considered becoming a citizen, if she thinks she might want to stay here? Or does she want to go back to Estonia once her schooling is through?
 

Nupe2

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vraiblonde said:
Well said, Nupe. :yay:

Has she considered becoming a citizen, if she thinks she might want to stay here? Or does she want to go back to Estonia once her schooling is through?

I think she wants to stay here. If she can complete her education here and qualify for a green card, I'm sure she'll apply for U.S. citizenship. I mean after all, this is THE GREATEST NATION IN THE FREE WORLD! (no, it is, really) :yay:
 

crabcake

But wait, there's more...
I have a coworker going through the same thing right now ... she's from Bulgaria, has lived here since she was a child (and came here legally with her parents), and is just a couple short weeks away from being sworn in with her citizenship. It has been a lonnnnggg frustrating process, but she followed all the laws and did everything she was told to do, and I'm so happy for her. :yahoo: We're anxiously waiting for her swear-in date so we can have a surprise luncheon for her to celebrate. :yay:

She's paid taxes all these years, even voted (don't ask me how that happened :lol:). She deserves this ... these folks who are just milking the gov't for healthcare and money, expecting more and more every day (and now amnesty) can KMA and go the hell back home. :howdy:
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
This has the potential...

Toxick said:
Or does anyone else think that this is a hostile act of war by a foreign nation on American soil?




It really sounds like one. Shouldn't we be treating these hostiles as enemy combatants?


..to backfire BIG time. They are threatening to wipe out all sympathy from fence straddlers on this issue like me.
 
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