Is there really a war going on between Ukraine and Russia?

[Kinnakeet]

For your consideration ...


Well, it's about to get frosty over there as Biden, (his handlers), has now given the go ahead for Zelensky to fire US Army Tactical Missile System missiles directly into Russian territory. Nothing says we want World War 3 more than stupidly using US made and US supplied munitions to attack Russia just before a new President takes office.

I wonder what Putin thinks about the US directly indirectly firing on Mother Russia? I wonder if he will return fire to neighboring NATO states? Or perhaps launch a non-nuclear missile to a location inside CONUS?

Ukraine has the green light to fire long-range US missiles into Russia

The weapons are likely to be used in response to North Korea's decision to send thousands of troops to Russia in support of Russian President Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine, a source says.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Who care as long as it doesnt happen here!

 

[Kinnakeet]

nah..not even close.

600000 is even that many people there

 

[Kinnakeet]

Why does nobody but me remember the covid "epidemic"? It was only a couple years ago.

You don't need everyone in on it, you just need the various media and celebrities to convince the unwashed masses. Never forget that half the country voted for Kamala Harris based solely on the media campaign promoting her. We learned a valuable lesson from that and covid and here we are already forgetting it.

Plandemic!

 

[GURPS]

People are still dying ... but IMHO this is about 2 things


1. For Russia keeping NATO off of their borders
2. Covering what the West has been doing in Ukraine - Business and shady BIO Labs, bribing Gov Officials like Hunter / Joe even progressives were asking WTF does Hunter know about Oil / Gas .... no that was a pay off to Joe for the billions in loans from the west.

 

[Gilligan]

Lots and lots of numbers...from lots and lots of sources...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War

 

[Gilligan]

600000 is even that many people there

??? you might want to do a little research.

 

[Gilligan]

Who care as long as it doesnt happen here!

Quote from 1941

 

[vraiblonde]

Let's not forget that the Biden family has long time corruption and money laundering ties to Ukraine. Burisma, anyone?

If you go to Wiki the first paragraph is this:

The Biden–Ukraine conspiracy theory is a series of false allegations that Joe Biden, while he was vice president of the United States, improperly withheld a loan guarantee and took a bribe to pressure Ukraine into firing prosecutor general Viktor Shokin to prevent a corruption investigation of Ukrainian gas company Burisma and to protect his son, Hunter Biden, who was on the Burisma board.

Take out "theory" and "false" in the first part of the sentence and there's the story. We know it happened, Joe Biden is on camera bragging about it. Trump was impeached by the dirty Democrats for trying to get to the bottom of of what Biden did that he bragged about. The Wiki page is locked because there will be NO dispute or discussion.

Biden–Ukraine conspiracy theory - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

This is an enormous conspiracy and a SH!T TON of heads need to roll, which is why they're freaking out to the point of trying to have Trump killed, and shitting their pants over Gaetz as AG. It's not just the Democrats, the Republican scumbags are in on it too, and not just the blatantly dirty ones like Liz Cheney. If they weren't in on it, they'd want to expose it and use it against the Democrats. That's why Trump doesn't want Dirty Nikki anywhere near his cabinet - she's on the take or at least knows who is.

But like all conspiracies, it's convoluted and difficult to explain to the average American. And because of that not a damn thing will be done about it.

 

[vraiblonde]

Lots and lots of numbers...from lots and lots of sources...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War

I think it's adorable that you believe anything Wiki says and think their corrupt government and left-biased sources are credible. That's like a little child dressed as a cowboy or princess.

Come on, Gilligan. I expect better from you.

 

[Gilligan]

I think it's adorable that you believe anything Wiki says and think their corrupt government and left-biased sources are credible. That's like a little child dressed as a cowboy or princess.

Come on, Gilligan. I expect better from you.

Don't. That wiki simply gathers up in one place TONS of referenced sources. I expected better from you too.

Your daughter didn't work in Ukraine for years, supporting various training efforts after the 2014 Russian invasion.

Mine did.

 

[vraiblonde]

Don't. That wiki simply gathers up in one place TONS of referenced sources. I expected better from you too.

Your daughter didn't work in Ukraine for years, supporting various training efforts after the 2014 Russian invasion.

Mine did.

Yeah, I'ma leave that right there.

 

[vraiblonde]

Don't. That wiki simply gathers up in one place TONS of referenced sources. I expected better from you too.

Your daughter didn't work in Ukraine for years, supporting various training efforts after the 2014 Russian invasion.

Mine did.

So you think it's all on the up and up, exactly how the politicians are presenting it? Big bad Putin invaded poor little Ukraine and our sending them billions of our tax dollars is a legit humanitarian mission trying to prevent Putin from taking over the world? Trump is the evil one for wanting an audit to find out WTF they're doing with all that money?

 

[CPUSA]

My son knows men that he has worked with, that are in Poland and the Ukraine. Its real and in color.

I worked with a guy that went to Poland to do relief work. Told me the War IS real... I asked him, so, you went to Ukraine?
Well, no. He was in Poland. But he was TOLD all about the fighting in Ukraine...AND he saw Refugees!!!

How did he know they were Polish Refugees? Because they SPOKE Polish & knew Polish CULTURE!!!!
I Can speak German & Like Schnitzel & hate SuarKraut...Does that make me German?
My niece is ALL about everything Japan....but she ain't no Geisha...

No, but,,,but,,,REFUGEES IN POLAND!!!!!

So until I see this "war" broadcast like Vietnam was, like Desert Storm was, like Iraqi Freedom was...I'll go with fake as hell money laundering scheme...

 

[Kyle]

So until I see this "war" broadcast like Vietnam was, like Desert Storm was, like Iraqi Freedom was...I'll go with fake as hell money laundering scheme...

I like that idea.

Dan Rather and Geraldo don't have anything to do right now.

 

[vraiblonde]

So until I see this "war" broadcast like Vietnam was, like Desert Storm was, like Iraqi Freedom was...I'll go with fake as hell money laundering scheme...

There's probably something going on over there but is it worth the $175B we've given them so far? What is that, around $500 each for every man, woman, and child in the US? What would you do with $500 in your pocket besides give it to a comedian playing a president so he can shave some and pass it on?

I'd like to see an audit. But the Pentagon just failed its audit for like the 7th time in a row and can't account for a couple billion $$$, and yet heads don't seem to be rolling. Nobody is accountable. They're like, "Well we're better than we were last year, so yay us!"

 

[stgislander]

I like that idea.

Dan Rather and Geraldo don't have anything to do right now.

Add Chris Wallace to that list.

 

[LightRoasted]

For your information ...

Don't. That wiki simply gathers up in one place TONS of referenced sources. I expected better from you too.

Your daughter didn't work in Ukraine for years, supporting various training efforts after the 2014 Russian invasion.

Mine did.

Does this mean that your daughter was part of, and involved in, partook in, the US controlled color revolution that overthrew Ukraine's democratically elected government and their democratically elected President which began the process, which has, among many other things, lead up to this current war? Was her "supporting various training efforts" that she conducted about and part of the overthrow of a legitimate government and the placement, and training, of US controlled lackeys?

I mean, heck, Ukraine was, is supposedly, as history tells us, its own formal and sovereign country, right? Have their own institutions, their own inter-government offices, their own intellectuals, their own think-tanks, their own strategists ~ military and otherwise. Ukraine being just like many other well established countries in the Eastern European Region. Whatever could be the reason that they would require any sort of "various training" provided by anyone from the US, for nearly a decade? It's not like they needed help coming out of third world status, or help in transitioning to being considered a developing nation. They were already fully developed with their own rich culture, economy, commerce, and trading partners throughout the world. Hell, they even make automotive tires that are sold here in the US.

**Please don't take this post as a disparagement against your daughter. I'm sure she is a fine woman with a good head on her shoulders. She'd have to be due to her lineage. However, given the current world circumstances, these are valid scrutinizations.**

Wiki is the modern day SNOPES, just dressed up to look as if it has definitive information when in actually it is as manipulated with misinformation, disinformation and outright obfuscation, sprinkled with just a bit of truths to give it the appearance of legitimacy. All information there should be suspect.

 

[Czar]

Hasn't the Ukraine learned anything from Vietnam? Go guerilla on Russia, never stop. Sooner or later, don't know what the body bag count will be, but Russia will quit.

 

[stgislander]

Does this mean that your daughter was part of, and involved in, partook in, the US controlled color revolution that overthrew Ukraine's democratically elected government and their democratically elected President which began the process, which has, among many other things, lead up to this current war? Was her "supporting various training efforts" that she conducted about and part of the overthrow of a legitimate government and the placement, and training, of US controlled lackeys?

Why yes... yes she was.

 

[Kinnakeet]

Hasn't the Ukraine learned anything from Vietnam? Go guerilla on Russia, never stop. Sooner or later, don't know what the body bag count will be, but Russia will quit.

Just like afganistan