Israel violently attacked by Palestinian militants.

WingsOfGold

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Is our border any less safe than Israel's? Do we have any idea who has crossed our borders? How many were terrorists and what will we do if the Muslims in Dearborn and all over Michigan decide to aid Palestine by doing sabotage work here.?
Hopefully they will attack striking union goons.
 

WingsOfGold

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It’s not the government’s job to help Americans. It is our individual responsibility to lift ourselves up.

Government has one job and one job one: maintain the monopoly on (ostensibly) legitimate violence in a specified geographical region, local, state, federal. That’s it, nothing more.
It IS the govt's responsibility to protect our borders, the shiit on the left has made them into cotton candy.
 

SamSpade

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I can't recall if someone has referenced this before - but I read an article that compared the moral authority in this war.

And the question was this - if Hamas had the military power and resources of Israel - what would they do with it? If Israel had the military capability to obliterate Gaza - what would they do with it?

Except that Israel ALREADY has the ability to flatten Hamas into oblivion - and they don't. Hamas and other similar groups have NEVER CEASED attacking, although most attacks don't make the news because it may consist of hurling small mortars into random areas - but they happen every day.

"If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more ‎violence.
If the Jews put ‎down their weapons ‎today, there would be no ‎more Israel'‎".
― Benjamin Netanyahu.
 

HemiHauler

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Except that Israel ALREADY has the
ability to flatten Hamas into oblivion - and they don't. Hamas and other similar groups have NEVER CEASED attacking, although most attacks don't make the news because it may consist of hurling small mortars into random areas - but they happen every day.

The reason Israel doesn’t make glass out of Gaza and ostensibly eliminate Hamas is simple: Netanyahu/Israel would lose the leverage to shake down the west for shekels.

Netanyahu has in fact strengthened Hamas by refusing to work with the Palestinian Authority, but rather with Hamas. Hamas are only the de facto government of Gaza. The PA has been unwavering in their condemnation of Hamas and their acts of “terror”.

Israel’s goal is to end the two state solution and they are — through colonialism and war, basically two sides of the same coin.

"If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more ‎violence.
If the Jews put ‎down their weapons ‎today, there would be no ‎more Israel'‎".
― Benjamin Netanyahu.

Just a cute and quotable embodiment of the fact that Netanyahu *needs* Hamas, as already stated. Without them, he has no leverage.

There are bad actors on both sides and there will be much, much, much more death. This is immutable fact.

Arguably, Hamas will emerge stronger from this. The more fierce the Israeli response, the more Palestinians die, and the more radicalized the survivors will be. And Netanyahu gets to continue his cycle.
 

Clem72

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Why do we immediately send money/weapons? Israel already has more than anyone else in that area, even Iran. They can deal with Hamas without handouts. Did they send us money after 9/11 (ha, no we sent them money)?
 

HemiHauler

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Why do we immediately send money/weapons? Israel already has more than anyone else in that area, even Iran. They can deal with Hamas without handouts. Did they send us money after 9/11 (ha, no we sent them money)?
Well, they only have the weapons and money they do *becuase* of the west and US in particular.

It’s all part of NuttyYahoo’s continued shakedown.
 

LightRoasted

If I may ...
For your consideration ...

Not for lack of anyone trying. The Ayrabs have been jointly trying to exterminate Israel for decades, and the Russians have trying to exterminate Ukraine for even longer.

I love to see it. We Americans are a uniquely propagandized people. Never before have I seen more people blaming the victim when it comes to the Palestinians. Like they asked for the world’s unwanted Jews to come flood into their country? The Palestinians are a warm, welcoming, hospitable people. So too did the Jews fleeing German persecution. They washed up on the shores of Palestine, often with only what they could carry or the clothes on their backs. They found refuge, warmth, food, shelter, clothing, and they were welcomed. But over time, those Jews started getting uppity. They started deciding “hey, this place is pretty nice. Let’s take it.”

Over the course of decades, from the 1930s through the 1948 war, Jews engaged in a systematic campaign of terrorist attacks, sabotage, ambushes, and other forms of mass murder. Their targets were Arabs, British soldiers and civilians, and even other Jews if they got in the way or opposed their agenda. Americans think Palestinians are the bad guys for not rolling over and submitting to colonial oppression. The irony isn’t lost on me, being the Nation that rebelled against the King and fought for its independence … and yet when the Palestinians do it, they’re demonized as “terrorists.”
I don’t remember who said it, but I agree with the statement that “terrorism is the war of the poor; war is the terrorism of the rich.”

The Israelis are only tough when they’re kicking around unarmed farmers, pregnant women, and children. When they have to fight a foe that can fight back, they get their asses kicked, every time. Free Palestine. Fuk Israel. Fuk the Jewish supremacist cult that has captured Western governments and the minds of Evangelical Christians and their deranged death cult.

“Most Zionist don’t believe that God exists, but, they do believe that he promised them Palestine.” ~ Ilan Pappe`, Israeli Historian
 

Kinnakeet

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For your consideration ...



I love to see it. We Americans are a uniquely propagandized people. Never before have I seen more people blaming the victim when it comes to the Palestinians. Like they asked for the world’s unwanted Jews to come flood into their country? The Palestinians are a warm, welcoming, hospitable people. So too did the Jews fleeing German persecution. They washed up on the shores of Palestine, often with only what they could carry or the clothes on their backs. They found refuge, warmth, food, shelter, clothing, and they were welcomed. But over time, those Jews started getting uppity. They started deciding “hey, this place is pretty nice. Let’s take it.”

Over the course of decades, from the 1930s through the 1948 war, Jews engaged in a systematic campaign of terrorist attacks, sabotage, ambushes, and other forms of mass murder. Their targets were Arabs, British soldiers and civilians, and even other Jews if they got in the way or opposed their agenda. Americans think Palestinians are the bad guys for not rolling over and submitting to colonial oppression. The irony isn’t lost on me, being the Nation that rebelled against the King and fought for its independence … and yet when the Palestinians do it, they’re demonized as “terrorists.”
I don’t remember who said it, but I agree with the statement that “terrorism is the war of the poor; war is the terrorism of the rich.”

The Israelis are only tough when they’re kicking around unarmed farmers, pregnant women, and children. When they have to fight a foe that can fight back, they get their asses kicked, every time. Free Palestine. Fuk Israel. Fuk the Jewish supremacist cult that has captured Western governments and the minds of Evangelical Christians and their deranged death cult.

“Most Zionist don’t believe that God exists, but, they do believe that he promised them Palestine.” ~ Ilan Pappe`, Israeli Historian
Are you ok what are you saying whats with the hate of the Jewish people?
 

stgislander

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Are you ok what are you saying whats with the hate of the Jewish people?
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Kinnakeet

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So the Jews are blamed for everything? sounds about right but no one can prove any of it to be true,It appears a whole lot of people are jealous of the jews,I mean how can that little country control the world I think all you haters are full of Sh!t and tell me what has a Jew done to you.
Those are your Gods chosen people....lol
 
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stgislander

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So the Jews are blamed for everything? sounds about right but no one can prove any of it to be true,It appears a whole lot of people are jealous of the jews,I mean how can that little country control the world I think all you haters are full of Sh!t and tell me what has a Jew done to you.
Those are your Gods chosen people....lol
Hold on there sweet cheeks. I am not a Jew hater by any definition. Your question was posed to LR who at some point with subject the rest of use to another long diatribe trying to explain the difference between Jews and Zionists. Justifying violence against one and not the other.
 
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