Its a damn shame when kids can't go to the movies

basher

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Yes, those "thugs" started it. Yes, saying they were going to get the "white" kids is racist. Yes, they should have been booted out of the theater.

My point is that the OP took one incident where a group of black kids were truly acting like thugs and racists and extrapolated it to the entire black race. These are HER words:

"I swear, things like this just make me mad and it really burns me up that black people are constantly screaming about racism when the real racism exists within them"

Really? ALL black people are "screaming" about racism? The OP must have talked to every black person in the country in order to know that. Otherwise it's a gross generalization. Otherwise, imho, she just looks silly.

Sorry, she had my attention AND sympathy until I got to the part about "all" black people. From then on it was just another run-of-the-mill, knee-jerk tirade about something that was no doubt upsetting, but certainly not earthshaking. Those kids were jerks, but it's over. You're the fool when you let them get you that upset and they walk away smiling.

I didn't see the word "all" in the original post. That's what seems implied, maybe next time she can just say "too many" is that bad?
 
Uh-huh... and what's 10 White kids - a church group?

I've taught in schools that were both predominantly white (Southern Maryland) or predominantly black. (in Annapolis)
Guess what? Neither group was a picnic. The sense of entitlement
shown by the white students (yes, I'm white) was breathtaking - and sickening. Even worse was the attitude of parents who backed their kids to the hilt. Could their child do something wrong? Nah, it's always someone else's fault. Could their child be deserving of a poor grade? Nah, that teacher doesn't know how to teach my child.

The OP's boys did the right thing. They left instead of making a bad situation worse. I do not blame them one bit for feeling threatened. I do question why an adult would feel it necessary to post this on a public forum and make it an issue of race. (READ CAREFULLY: I AM NOT CALLING HER A RACIST) Kids of all races can be jerks. Believe me, I know. Everytime I've been to a movie that was disrupted by teenagers, they turned out to be white kids who didn't seem to understand the difference between watching a movie at home and in a public place with other people. Am I blaming all white kids? No. Am I blaming only white kids? No.

You hit the nail on the head!

It does not matter what the skin color of little punk a-holes are... if they have not been brought up with respect for others then they have no respect for themselves as a start... the rest goes from there.

A group of thug-wanna-be whitey's can be just as shiftless, ignorant and intimidating as a group of thug-wanna-be blacky's. You are not breaking new ground here...

I know in which direction opinion is blowing on this thread so ...flame suit now on.

No need to flame anyone over this as you are speaking the truth, BUT the thread opened blowing in one direction and unfortunately it is a direction often blown in SOMD AND it is seen more and more. God help us when it is talked about; the people talking are pointed at and called racists... it get's old after a while.
 

sinwagon

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Yes, those "thugs" started it. Yes, saying they were going to get the "white" kids is racist. Yes, they should have been booted out of the theater.

My point is that the OP took one incident where a group of black kids were truly acting like thugs and racists and extrapolated it to the entire black race. These are HER words:

"I swear, things like this just make me mad and it really burns me up that black people are constantly screaming about racism when the real racism exists within them"

Really? ALL black people are "screaming" about racism? The OP must have talked to every black person in the country in order to know that. Otherwise it's a gross generalization. Otherwise, imho, she just looks silly.

Sorry, she had my attention AND sympathy until I got to the part about "all" black people. From then on it was just another run-of-the-mill, knee-jerk tirade about something that was no doubt upsetting, but certainly not earthshaking. Those kids were jerks, but it's over. You're the fool when you let them get you that upset and they walk away smiling.


First of all, what is an OP? Sorry I don't know what it is.

Secondly where did I use the word ALL, you reposted my very statement and put your OWN word (ALL) into it. That must mean that you think by reading it that I am referring to ALL which are actually your thoughts.
 

puggymom

Active Member
First of all, what is an OP? Sorry I don't know what it is.

Secondly where did I use the word ALL, you reposted my very statement and put your OWN word (ALL) into it. That must mean that you think by reading it that I am referring to ALL which are actually your thoughts.

original poster?
 

sinwagon

New Member
I will say, I am not a racist. I know I am not and that is all that matters. I do not usually make generalizations against people. I have a cousin who is a dumb ass, he is white, he is blood but he is still a dumb ass....he blames it on his ADHD....cop out! He commits crimes its his "ADHD or bipolar disorder" He doesn't take responsibility for his actions "its his ADHD and bipolar disorder", he uses drugs "its his ADHD and bipolar disorder" We were close, we grew up as brother and sister in my grandmothers home.....so does that make me a person who is unsympathetic to people with mental disorders? Good freakin' grief.....

And to go there with the race thing again, do you think they would have been so inclined had 4 black kids asked them to please be quiet to call all of their friends on the phone and say "we are going to mess these black boys up after the movie?"

As far as a sense of entitlement, that goes both ways. RICH white kids mainly act as if they are entitled. Then you have the minorities who act as if they are entitled due to slavery, or the fact that they had to migrate to this company and all they had to go through to get here. You don't see Jewish kids walking around acting as if they are entitled because of the halocaust do you? Atleast I never have so why when it comes to slavery do the black people think they are entitled to something. It was a terrible thing but as I said before, I NEVER OWNED A SLAVE AND THE PEOPLE CRYING ABOUT WERE NEVER SLAVES NOR DID MOST OF THEM KNOW ANYONE WHO WAS.

We have black friends, white friends, jewish FAMILY (my stepdad is Jewish), One family that we are friends with are black muslims you don't here them going around talking about "get whitey" or talking about bad americans. My thing is, EVERYONE is entitled to what they work for and deserve, nothing more, nothing less.

Even if I had not mentioned that they were black, when I made the statement that they said "hey we are going to mess these white boys up after the movie" what race would you have assumed they were? Answer honestly, you would have assumed they were black. Why not mexican, or chinese? Because if you answer honestly you and I both know you would have assumed they were black because for the most part, black people are the only ones who make those types of statements sooooooooooo.....does that make you a racist?
 

Brooks212

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you and I both know you would have assumed they were black[/QUOTe}



You know nothing of the sort about me. Don't project your thought processes onto me.


When I quoted you verbatim, I did not include the word "all". But come now, sinwagon, what did you expect us to infer when you wrote "black people"? As the poster above said, it was implied
You did not write "some" black people, or "too many" black people. No, you wrote "black people". Those are your words - stand by them. Don't try and qualify it after the fact.

BTW, I am a she, not a he. You couldn't have known. When we make assumptions, though, about people based on their name, color, race, etc we often guess wrong.
 

PrchJrkr

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you and I both know you would have assumed they were black[/QUOTe}



You know nothing of the sort about me. Don't project your thought processes onto me.


When I quoted you verbatim, I did not include the word "all". But come now, sinwagon, what did you expect us to infer when you wrote "black people"? As the poster above said, it was implied
You did not write "some" black people, or "too many" black people. No, you wrote "black people". Those are your words - stand by them. Don't try and qualify it after the fact.

BTW, I am a she, not a he. You couldn't have known. When we make assumptions, though, about people based on their name, color, race, etc we often guess wrong.

I hope you don't teach engrish. I didn't interpret SW's statement that way.
 

Brooks212

New Member
Okay, so in your world you just ignore menacing people so they don't "win"?

That's ridiculous.



What?!!!! Where did say that? I ignore menacing people and don't care if they think they won. What sane person would take on menacing people? I walk away. And I don't let them get me so riled I wind up venting on a web site. But, hey, it's a free country.

What's ridiculous is trying to use my words to make a point without any understanding of them.
 

Sonsie

The mighty Al-Sonsie!
That's what they get for going to a bad movie.

Seriously. Go to an intelligent period piece like Becoming Jane or Elizabeth and you won't have any problems with thugs sprawling all over and hurling profanity at the screen and other attendees. They wouldn't be caught dead in there as there would be no one to appreciate their thuggy badness as they strut, pose, and flash their gang signs. As a bonus nobody would be shooting at the screen either during the action scenes either!
 

sinwagon

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you and I both know you would have assumed they were black[/QUOTe}



You know nothing of the sort about me. Don't project your thought processes onto me.


When I quoted you verbatim, I did not include the word "all". But come now, sinwagon, what did you expect us to infer when you wrote "black people"? As the poster above said, it was implied
You did not write "some" black people, or "too many" black people. No, you wrote "black people". Those are your words - stand by them. Don't try and qualify it after the fact.


I know you ASSumed I was talking about ALL black people with your words. I stand behind my statements and my views. I never said ALL black people, just as you stated I said BLACK PEOPLE because in my personal experience, I have only experienced racism FROM BLACK PEOPLE! I am not trying to "qualify" anything as you put it.

BTW, I am a she, not a he. You couldn't have known. When we make assumptions, though, about people based on their name, color, race, etc we often guess wrong.


I know you ASSumed I was talking about ALL black people with your words. I stand behind my statements and my views. I never said ALL black people, just as you stated I said BLACK PEOPLE because in my personal experience, I have only experienced racism FROM BLACK PEOPLE! I am not trying to "qualify" anything as you put it.


And your point about you being a woman is? Exactly how does that statement pertain to this? I did not ASSUME these kids causing the problem were black, I knew they were! Your right, just as you ASSUMED I was referring to ALL black people so you proved your own point....way to go!:yay:
 
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sinwagon

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What?!!!! Where did say that? I ignore menacing people and don't care if they think they won. What sane person would take on menacing people? I walk away. And I don't let them get me so riled I wind up venting on a web site. But, hey, it's a free country.

What's ridiculous is trying to use my words to make a point without any understanding of them.


Vari is right, you stated you walk away and do nothing. Well isn't that what leaves crime in the neighborhoods? Isn't that why these punks feel that a movie thetre is their forum? That's the problem, people like you that don't think issues should be talked about or people should be held accountable.

You know what, I can post whatever I want here. Why does it matter? If you are so against it why don't you do your "walk away" thing and stop responding? Someone posted about the tiki bar opening....why don't you go tell them they should not post that? Good Grief, which issue are you complaining about now, the fact that I said black kids or the fact that I posted it here. Make up your mind! If nobody posted their issues on this board or any forum for that matter it would be pointless to even have a forum wouldn't it? So as for you making cracks at me posting it here, FREE WORLD!

I find it funny that you find more fault in someone posting on a forum then you do a pack of losers causing problems at a movie theatre. If my kids were out on the corners dealing drugs or committing crimes you would be complaining that your house just got robbed. My kids were taught better. They had nothing to do, they went to the movies, doesn't matter what movie. It was their God given right to go see a movie and expect to watch it in peace and free from crap! But I guess 4 teenagers going to a movie and expecting to watch it in peace is unthinkable to you huh?

And nobody understands your points because your retarded. There you go, now I am picking on retards ok?
 

sinwagon

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Did you not, a few posts ago, say (in reference to the term OP) that you thought "he was calling you a name"?

Yes and how does that compare? How was I ASSUMING these kids were black? I wasn't ASSUMING they were black, I knew they were.

You made that statement as if you were saying just as I assumed you were man, I assumed these kids were black? WTF? Are you talking in riddles?
 

sinwagon

New Member
No, I didn't teach "engrish". LOL. Tell me then, how should we interpret the statment "burns me up when black people..."

Frankly, interpret it however you want....frankly I don't give a rats A$$!

But if you want to interpret it the way it was said, IT BURNS ME UP WHEN BLACK PEOPLE DO THIS! I did not say ALL black people and I said BLACK PEOPLE because....let me spell it out for you:

1. THE KIDS WHO WERE DOING IT WERE BLACK!
2. I HAVE NEVER EXPERIENCED THIS WITH ANY OTHER RACE
3. BECAUSE I SAID IT HOW I MEANT IT
4. AND IT STILL BURNS ME UP WHEN BLACK PEOPLE DO IT!

Talk to some black people, have you ever tried that? They are pretty sick of SOME OF today's black youth and their actions too
 
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