It's not about science...

Rommey

Well-Known Member
I kind of look at it as if the Earth were the human body, in that when we get a fever, we have the mechanisms to combat and cure that. I think the Earth has similar mechanisms to maintain itself. The data for climate change covers a period of such a small fraction of the Earth's existence that it would be like looking at a person for a few fractions of seconds and making a definitive determination.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
I kind of look at it as if the Earth were the human body, in that when we get a fever, we have the mechanisms to combat and cure that. I think the Earth has similar mechanisms to maintain itself. The data for climate change covers a period of such a small fraction of the Earth's existence that it would be like looking at a person for a few fractions of seconds and making a definitive determination.

See, that's a one paragraph hypothesis that, even with the most cursory glance, proves out how inane the entire man made global cool warming change cult really is. It presumes a static, perfect climate that is wrecked not only beyond 'repair' by man but, worse yet doesn't even explore the potential positives of those changes were they even happening.

Years ago, PBS, did a brilliant piece about this and knocked out the 'pillars', as they put it, one by one, about the chicken little/sky is falling position including the very real, and every bit just as plausible possibility that man man, at the time, warming, would be GOOD for us and the planet. It's just so awful because people claiming to be about science and reason destroy there very core of science and reason to do nothing more than advance a personally preferred agenda based on hope and fairy dust and not a lick of reason let alone the most basic observation such as you just point out.

It's the mind crime of this century.
 

MMDad

Lem Putt
Something I find kind of interesting - the most radical of the GW adherents believe that humanity is already too big and that the only ral solution is to depopulate. They believe that mankind is ruining the planet for the rest of the species, and something needs to be done to protect the Earth. So suppose they are 100% right in their dogma? What happens?

Temperatures rise, sea levels rise, we have droughts, famine, flooding, and disease. If it's as bad as they say, we will not be able to adapt enough to survive. End of people. 200 years later, Earth has returned to "balance" and thrives.

So why do they want to stop it?
 

SamSpade

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PREMO Member
If it's as bad as they say, we will not be able to adapt enough to survive. End of people. 200 years later, Earth has returned to "balance" and thrives.

So why do they want to stop it?

I always think it's like when you hear someone bemoan how awful man is as a species. Or see one of those movies or Twilight Zone episodes where it's revealed that people really are just plain awful and they're bringing on their own doom. Greedy, selfish, self-involved. All that. James Bond villains who want to rid the Earth of such vermin.

Well - not really. They don't include themselves. The writer of such movies and stories - they don't mean themselves TOO. Other people. Everyone ELSE. Those people over there. I didn't mean *ME*. If the Earth needs a plague to save it - I *will* save a vial of vaccine for *myself* because they all might be evil - but not *ME*.

As Linus van Pelt said (when Lucy ridiculed him for wanting to be a doctor, because he didn't love mankind) "I DO love mankind - it's people I can't stand!". They don't want EVERYONE gone - just the ones they don't want. You know. THOSE guys.

What they'd LIKE is to return the Earth to some pristine, idyllic paradise with SOME people in it. Not enough to destroy the world.

(I don't get the idea that the world without people is some kind of harmonious paradise - life is at war with one another. Smaller creatures eat even smaller creatures - males kill cubs that aren't their own - plants crowd and choke other plants with their branches, vines, tendrils and roots. They are all in competition for survival. It's only in someone's bizarre imagination that the lion lays down with the lamb).
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
What they'd LIKE is to return the Earth to some pristine, idyllic paradise with SOME people in it. Not enough to destroy the world.

So they then could go about reinventing air conditioning, hair dryers, washing machines, microwaves, SUV's and a space program...
 

SamSpade

Well-Known Member
PREMO Member
So they then could go about reinventing air conditioning, hair dryers, washing machines, microwaves, SUV's and a space program...

Well anything's possible. The ones I am familiar with believe in some non-existent world that resembles a very long vacation where you grow your own food and live in harmony with nature....

Until there's a flood - or locusts - or plague - or blizzard, earthquake, famine, blight, fire, tornado, ASTEROID, jeez just about ANYTHING where you suddenly realize that life ain't a Jimmy Buffett song and life before those things could be pretty brutal.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
Well anything's possible. The ones I am familiar with believe in some non-existent world that resembles a very long vacation where you grow your own food and live in harmony with nature....

Until there's a flood - or locusts - or plague - or blizzard, earthquake, famine, blight, fire, tornado, ASTEROID, jeez just about ANYTHING where you suddenly realize that life ain't a Jimmy Buffett song and life before those things could be pretty brutal.

Exactly. So, AC, SUV's, power tools, etc, etc...
 
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