It's not Elon Musk. It was never Elon Musk.

vraiblonde

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Progs always go, "Oh, Elon Musk is the President now! You all do what Elon says!"

No, tards.

It's always been about Trump. Who Trump picks for certain jobs is important, but if those folks go off the reservation and/or get gone MAGA doesn't really care.


My understanding is that Musk, like Rand Paul, are against the BBB because there's too much spending and not enough cutting. I almost certainly agree with that, but I also understand that there needs to be compromise. If the GOP goes scorched earth with spending cuts, they'll never - ever - get it passed. This is my problem with Rand Paul, who I do admire - he's an idealist and not a realist. Surely he understands how all this works, but time and again he goes to the mat over unrealistic principles.

Just like his dear old dad, all "Abolish the IRS and replace it with nothing." Yeah, you can't do that. You can overhaul the IRS and enforce waste/fraud oversight, but someone has to be the tax collector. If you abolish the IRS, there will still be an entity that deals with tax collection regardless of what you decide to call it.

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LtownTaxpayer

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Progs always go, "Oh, Elon Musk is the President now! You all do what Elon says!"

No, tards.

It's always been about Trump. Who Trump picks for certain jobs is important, but if those folks go off the reservation and/or get gone MAGA doesn't really care.


My understanding is that Musk, like Rand Paul, are against the BBB because there's too much spending and not enough cutting. I almost certainly agree with that, but I also understand that there needs to be compromise. If the GOP goes scorched earth with spending cuts, they'll never - ever - get it passed. This is my problem with Rand Paul, who I do admire - he's an idealist and not a realist. Surely he understands how all this works, but time and again he goes to the mat over unrealistic principles.

Just like his dear old dad, all "Abolish the IRS and replace it with nothing." Yeah, you can't do that. You can overhaul the IRS and enforce waste/fraud oversight, but someone has to be the tax collector. If you abolish the IRS, there will still be an entity that deals with tax collection regardless of what you decide to call it.

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There is no way in HELL0 that the BBB would be able to cover all the cuts. That is why there are recision bills coming. Rand Paul is very idealistic - almost to the point of being a fool. He likes being the lone voice in the desert decrying the spending, but he won't help to get anyone else over the hump. We need to BBB to avoid a tax increase that will be coming for all of us. Then the recision bills can be taken up - they also will provide the impetus for getting rid of members of congress (in my opinion). The recision bills will be smaller and more focused - harder to hide your vote and easier for your opponent to use the votes against you. Recisions don't just stop the spending - they stop the allocations too.
 
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Kyle

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He should’ve been smart enough to know that it would take more than the first bill out of Congress to get anything cut.

I didn’t expect there would be any major cuts initially. Just getting the tax breaks done was about all that could be expected.
 
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Ken King

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I think Trump gave Elon an out where he can express his disapproval for the bill and get the angst off him and his companies. He was leaving anyway as his special status was timing out. Also it needs to be remembered that the "Big, Beautiful Bill" is a reconciliation bill and not an appropriation bill, there are big differences between what they do..
 

stgislander

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As said too many times to count, reconciliation bills can only address mandatory spending. The only mandatory spending that can be tackled this way is Medicaid. (SS can only be cut through appropriations bills.) Discretionary spending cuts are handled via rescission bills.

Someone on FNC pointed out that Congress' budgeting/spending rules are "arcane" and probably need to be reviewed/revised.

Get the BBB and rescission packages approved, so we can get the 2026 budget process going.
 

NOTSMC

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I think Musk has burned his bridges.
It's getting pretty funny. Trump's been trashing Musk all afternoon and Elon has just insinuated that the Epstein files weren't released in full because they contain info on DJT. Trump has just insinuated that he'll cut Musk's government contracts
 
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glhs837

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It's getting pretty funny. Trump's been trashing Musk all afternoon and Elon has just insinuated that the Epstein files weren't released in full because they contain info on DJT. Trump has just insinuated that he'll cut Musk's government contracts
And Musk said he'll start shutting down the Dragon program. Which outside of Soyuz is the only way to get crew back and forth. \

If Trump could have just disagreed without getting personal, it didnt need to go here. This is the Trump I dont like.
 
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