It's not Elon Musk. It was never Elon Musk.

[22AcaciaAve]

You're a day late and a dollar short. Apparently Trump and Musk are in the process of kissing and making up.

Not that I care. Musk did a lot of good in his stint, and as the title says: It's not Elon Musk; it was never Elon Musk. I think anyone who follows this stuff knew that he has a big ego and is used to being a dictator with his companies. But he was brought on to do a job, and I think he's mission accomplished. He brought all the WFA to light, and now it's up to Congress to do something about it (not that those lazy grifters will).

I'd take an Elon Musk and Doge team over 100 Senators any day.

I might be a day late, but don't think I am a dollar short. They are not in the process of making up. Musk is kicking around starting a third party, and Trump has threatened him with consequences if he gives money to democrat candidates. Trump also said he had no desire to talk to Musk. Not quite two people making up

I would dispute your claim that Musk did a lot of good. He did some, but his original statement was to cut 2 trillion dollars of waste, quickly backed down to 1 trillion dollars, and ending up somewhere around 150 billion. 150 billion is certainly something that should be eliminated from government. I am sure there is more that can be cut. But his approach was all wrong. It was like pruning a bush with a chainsaw when you should do it with hand held pruning devices. It took decades, even a good part of a century for the government to get this bloated, it can't be undone in a few years. To do it effectively you need to start systematically cutting. DOGE was not only meant to cut the federal work force, it was supposed to make the federal work force more efficient. So far it as achieved 1/2 of that goal, it has eliminated some of the work force. It has not made it more efficient, it has made it less. Research Social Security call wait times. They had actually gone down under 1 hour, which is incredibly bad to begin with. Since DOGE took over, they are now over 3 hour wait phone hold times. Good job. NOT.

I agree that 100 senators and even 435 representatives won't solve the problem. Congress sucks. But someone with a little patience and not wielding a chain saw approach can get the job done. Do it the right way, or don't even try. Musk did not do it the right way. He did it the way he has done with smaller companies. That was like steering a small speed boat, he might have been good at that. The government is like the Dali that hit the Key Bridge, big and very tough to turn quickly. The same methods would not work and he failed to understand that.

You have to be in it for the long haul, or else it is destined to fail.

 

[22AcaciaAve]

They had to have access to find the problems. They are also bound by the same laws as any other government employee, in that they will go to prison if they jack around with sensitive information. Other IT people have access to the same records, low level tards whose names we don't even know, they don't even have security clearances, they aren't even Americans, and many of THEM were on the take.

So I'm not necessarily alarmed by Big Balls etc, but when a government employee demonstrates that they are acting in bad faith, their access should be revoked.

I do agree with you that to do what they said they would do they need access to all records to find potential fraud. But they also turned off logging functions that would track what they did with that information. If your mission is to root out fraud and waste, why remove logging functions that only add transparency? The only reason to turn off or get around logging is because you don't want people to know what you are really doing.

Their mission was absolutely acceptable and needed, the way they went about it is not. And it should be opposed by everyone who values transparency and freedom.

 

[Squiddie]

But someone with a little patience and not wielding a chain saw approach can get the job done.

The idiots who were riding and dying with Trump and Musk really saw Javier Milei tackle naked and blatant government corruption in Argentina and thought they could apply it in a vastly more complicated system with the same results. I tried posting here about how DOGE didn't cut as much as they claim in actuality, but was called a Democrat shill.

It makes me sick that the Republican Party is headed by a man who wants infinity H1B visas for immigrants to make the GDP line go up and a second man who thinks that adding over a trillion dollars to an already massive deficit will set the pathway to a better America. I would be in the camp of reducing Social Security, but I know that would upset the braindead elderly retards who live on this site, some of which who don't even live in Maryland and clap their arthritis-ridden hands like seals whenever Libs of TikTok owns the liberals.

 

[22AcaciaAve]

The idiots who were riding and dying with Trump and Musk really saw Javier Milei tackle naked and blatant government corruption in Argentina and thought they could apply it in a vastly more complicated system with the same results. I tried posting here about how DOGE didn't cut as much as they claim in actuality, but was called a Democrat shill.

It makes me sick that the Republican Party is headed by a man who wants infinity H1B visas for immigrants to make the GDP line go up and a second man who thinks that adding over a trillion dollars to an already massive deficit will set the pathway to a better America. I would be in the camp of reducing Social Security, but I know that would upset the braindead elderly retards who live on this site, some of which who don't even live in Maryland and clap their arthritis-ridden hands like seals whenever Libs of TikTok owns the liberals.

I don't agree with everything you said, particularly on Social Security, but I appreciate your post. I was honest and said I voted for Trump, but I don't agree with some of the things being done. I was called out as Bullsh*t, I never voted for Trump, according to some here. Yeah, right like you know who I voted for. I drop arguing with those people because they are mental midgets. They won't listen anyway. Just like you were called a dem shill. The MAGA cult rejects any opposition to what anything Trump does. They are the sheep that democrats have been for years.

I don't walk in lock step with any politician. They all are just about money and power. I usually am left with the lesser of two evils, and most of the time that is the Republican candidate. Sad situation. The last president who was any good imo, was Ronald Reagan. The country has surely gone down since then.

 

[PeoplesElbow]

I think Musk was the window dressing, he probably thought he was buying influence, the folks who owned TSLA stock sure thought so.

Anyway Russ Vought is the guy that will accomplish DOGE's goal more than anyone and very few people know his name.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/06/07/russ-vought-elon-musk-00392931

 

[Tech]

 

[vraiblonde]

Uh, damn....

Trump admin sets the record straight on reports of Musk 'body-checking' Treasury Secretary at White House

Elon Musk allegedly 'body-checked' Treasury Secretary Bessent after a White House meeting, with Karoline Leavitt later describing it as 'definitely a disagreement' and not a fistfight.

www.foxnews.com

The report stated that Musk and Bessent had entered the Oval Office in April to express their preferences for acting IRS commissioner. After Trump sided with Bessent's choice and the two men exited the Oval Office, they were said to have exchanged insults and, at one point, Musk allegedly rammed his shoulder into Bessent's ribcage and Bessent hit him back, Bannon said, informing the outlet that the information had been shared with him.

 

[TPD]

Hmmm - wonder if This dog fight is better than a cat fight….

 

[bonehead1]

The idiots who were riding and dying with Trump and Musk really saw Javier Milei tackle naked and blatant government corruption in Argentina and thought they could apply it in a vastly more complicated system with the same results. I tried posting here about how DOGE didn't cut as much as they claim in actuality, but was called a Democrat shill.

It makes me sick that the Republican Party is headed by a man who wants infinity H1B visas for immigrants to make the GDP line go up and a second man who thinks that adding over a trillion dollars to an already massive deficit will set the pathway to a better America. I would be in the camp of reducing Social Security, but I know that would upset the braindead elderly retards who live on this site, some of which who don't even live in Maryland and clap their arthritis-ridden hands like seals whenever Libs of TikTok owns the liberals.

Who whizzed in your Wheaties Sonny boy ?

 

[Tech]

Hmmm - wonder if This dog fight is better than a cat fight….

So which one reached over and took the limo wheel from the SS agent?

 

[Kyle]

Who whizzed in your Wheaties Sonny boy ?

I think he does it himself.

 

[vraiblonde]

Reportings that Elon is sorry...so sorry....



But we're gonna call that bridge burnt. Which is too bad, but that's politics and people suck. I am curious, however, what prompted the Meltdown of Musk - if it's his brain having a misfire or if there was a point to all this.