J.D. Vance worse pick than Sarah Palin?

Kyle

Beloved Misanthrope
PREMO Member
He only picked Vance because Peter Theil promised to bankroll his campaign and his lawsuits if he did.

That's what happens when you make deals with the devil.
The guy who said he'd vote for trump if you hold a gun to his head.

You really seem to have all this insider information on Trump and even know what's in his head.

You're a regular James Bond, Sherlock Holmes and Jean Dixon all rolled into one.


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StmarysCity79

Well-Known Member
The guy who said he'd vote for trump if you hold a gun to his head.

You really seem to have all this insider information on Trump and even know what's in his head.

You're a regular James Bond, Sherlock Holmes and Jean Dixon all rolled into one.


:killingme


No just an informed person who reads and stays engaged. and doesnt lsiten to FOX news all day

And big donors, particularly from the tech sector, provided the rocket fuel he needed to advance in electoral politics. Vance's most prominent benefactor over the years is Peter Thiel, the iconoclastic tech pioneer and investor. Thiel hired Vance at his global investment firm in 2017, and then nurtured Vance's political rise, donating $15 million to his 2022 Ohio Senate campaign and helping him win a closely fought GOP primary before going on to capture the seat in the general election.
But it's the relationship with Thiel that has been the most consequential for Vance. Their personal and financial ties formed long before Vance formally entered politics.

At Yale Law, Vance attended a talk by Thiel about technological stagnation and the decline of American elites.

"He saw these two trends … as connected," Vance later wrote about his first encounter with Thiel in a 2020 blog post in the Catholic journal The Lamp Magazine. "If technological innovation were actually driving real prosperity, our elites wouldn't feel increasingly competitive with one another over a dwindling number of prestigious outcomes." Vance called Thiel's talk "the most significant moment" of his time at Yale.

After Yale Law and a short stint at a corporate law firm, Vance moved to San Francisco to work as a venture capitalist. Thiel hired him to join his tech fund, Mithril Capital — all while Vance continued to work on his memoir, "Hillbilly Elegy."


In 2019 Vance moved back to his native Ohio, where he started his own venture capitalist firm, heavily backed by Thiel and other elite tech investors. By then he was flirting with a potential run for elective office, and Thiel was encouraging him. By the time Vance finally took the plunge in 2021, he had been transformed from one of Trump's most vitriolic critics (he once called Trump "an American Hitler" in a private message to a friend) into one of his most effective defenders and fundraisers.

Thiel brought Vance to his very first meeting with Trump at Mar-a-Lago in February 2021, according to the New York Times.

In the 2022 campaign, Thiel made $15 million in donations to Vance's SuperPAC, Protect Ohio Values, a staggering amount from a single individual for a Senate race, according to OpenSecrets, a nonpartisan group that tracks the influence of money on politics. But that wasn't all. Thiel also steered at least $200,000 to Vance's super PAC from a group he controlled called Per Aspera Policy, according to the Kansas City Star and OpenSecrets. Per Aspera is a dark money nonprofit, which means that its spending is used to influence elections, but it is not required to disclose its donors. In the same cycle, Vance's super PAC also received hundreds of thousands in contributions from the Mercer, Uihlein and Lindner families, all staples of mega-conservative political giving in recent years.

It is not entirely clear what Thiel may have wanted in exchange for his largesse. (Thiel declined comment for this story.) Thiel's philosophy has been described as "techno-libertarian," but critics say it veers toward authoritarianism, and even fascism (he wrote in an article in a libertarian journal in 2009, "I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible").

A co-founder of PayPal and Palantir Technologies, and an early investor in Facebook, Thiel also has business interests with the U.S. government, which may be especially important at a time when the tech sector is under intense scrutiny from both Democrats and Republicans. Whether his goals are ideological or financial, government watchdogs are watching closely.

"We've seen this long history of financial entanglements between Thiel and Vance," said Anna Massoglia, editorial and investigations manager at OpenSecrets. "Thiel's interests in having Vance in office are not explicit, but there's no question he has business interests that could be benefited by having someone like JD Vance in his corner."

There are at least some indications that Thiel's political generosity has translated into influence. In 2016, Thiel helped bail out Trump financially at a time when he most needed it: after the release of the "Access Hollywood" tape. He gave $1.25 million, and shortly after Trump's 2016 victory, Thiel was given an office at Trump Tower where he recommended candidates for jobs in the incoming administration, according to The Atlantic's Barton Gellman. In short order, two close associates of Thiel's won plum positions in the Trump administration. One was tapped to be chief technology officer; another was named to the senior staff of the National Security Council.


 

Bare-ya-cuda

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He only picked Vance because Peter Theil promised to bankroll his campaign and his lawsuits if he did.

That's what happens when you make deals with the devil.
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StmarysCity79

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Why would any sane person think attacking people who chose not to or cant have bioligical children is a good campaign strategy?


And why would any sane person make it known they want to do away with no fault divorce even in cases of "domestic violence"

It's really baffling.

"“This is one of the great tricks that I think the sexual revolution pulled on the American populace, which is the idea that like, ‘well, OK, these marriages were fundamentally, you know, they were maybe even violent, but certainly they were unhappy. And so getting rid of them and making it easier for people to shift spouses like they change their underwear, that’s going to make people happier in the long term,’” Vance said.
 

Chopticon64

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What is that graphic?

I was posting Trump’s response to a Fox News anchor asking about Vance

Look, Trump is seething that he made Vance his pick, you can tell he doesn’t like him, same thing when he picked Pence.

Trump has no close friends, the only people he likes are his kids, he would NEVER chose a VP, it’s only because he has to.

Who is the #2 at Trump corp? The man can’t share the spotlight, disagree all you want, but you can’t show me a single example of someone he lifts up, likes to be around, and clearly respects, except his kids.
This guy explains it well, Trump hates Vance, regrets the decision. I wonder who convinced Trump this was the guy? I can’t imagine his instincts lead him this way.

Trump will just get more unhinged unless he can shake Vance. Especially after Harris announces her VP on Monday, going to be a governor who knows how to work a crowd and has executive experience…..I’ve never looked this forward to a Monday

 

Chopticon64

Well-Known Member
This guy explains it well, Trump hates Vance, regrets the decision. I wonder who convinced Trump this was the guy? I can’t imagine his instincts lead him this way.

Trump will just get more unhinged unless he can shake Vance. Especially after Harris announces her VP on Monday, going to be a governor who knows how to work a crowd and has executive experience…..I’ve never looked this forward to a Monday


I mean, a heavy set guy from Yale saying rape is “inconvenient”? What a pick!

 

Bare-ya-cuda

Well-Known Member
This guy explains it well, Trump hates Vance, regrets the decision. I wonder who convinced Trump this was the guy? I can’t imagine his instincts lead him this way.

Trump will just get more unhinged unless he can shake Vance. Especially after Harris announces her VP on Monday, going to be a governor who knows how to work a crowd and has executive experience…..I’ve never looked this forward to a Monday


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StmarysCity79

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I am convinced he is a democrat plant who after this is all over will say " I sacrificed my self to sink Trumps chances". I mean no one could be this bad at messaging.

He has managed to offend every single voting block in less than three weeks.
 

Kyle

Beloved Misanthrope
PREMO Member
I am convinced he is a democrat plant who after this is all over will say " I sacrificed my self to sink Trumps chances". I mean no one could be this bad at messaging.

He has managed to offend every single voting block in less than three weeks.
Really... So Spinster Cat Ladies are a desperately needed voting block?
 

Chopticon64

Well-Known Member
I am convinced he is a democrat plant who after this is all over will say " I sacrificed my self to sink Trumps chances". I mean no one could be this bad at messaging.

He has managed to offend every single voting block in less than three weeks.
I don’t think he is, just someone who had a book that the liberal elite loved, he tried to fit in those circles and it just never jelled, he did a pivot, went full maga, became a senator, and now he’s in too deep.
 

StmarysCity79

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I don’t think he is, just someone who had a book that the liberal elite loved, he tried to fit in those circles and it just never jelled, he did a pivot, went full maga, became a senator, and now he’s in too deep.


But what explains him now denigrating people without children? and saying he hates cops? And he spent years trashing Trump not just dipped a toe in.

He also had trans friends and thought he was gay for a while.

He just seems desperate to fit in anywhere and really insecure.
 
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