Jane Fonda tells veterans boycotting her movie...

[MMDad]

And the DOJ was controlled by what political party in 1972? I'll help you out so you don't bruise your melon, it was Republican.

I'd say you've jumped the shark, but while equally pointless at least shark jumping is mildly entertaining.

 

[mamatutu]

I was graduating hs in the era of Jane Fonda. I think she looks fantastic for her age, and envy her motivation to stay fit and young; plus she has the bucks for numerous plastic surgeries. That being said; she lived off of her good father's name, and brought him shame with her views. She is old now, like me, and wants to forget all the mistakes in her life. But, she will always be remembered as a traitor in civilian clothing. She labeled herself as a non-patriot for life, and I wish her no peace. I am sure she is ashamed, and sorry now, of how she treated our honorable military, and wants us to forgive and forget, but she is decades too late. But, her retort still shows how she views what she thinks is her position. "Get a life." Really??? What about all the brave men and women that went to Viet Nam, and don't have a life, anymore? Her position, after all these years, has not changed, which is so obvious, and has sealed her fate in the eyes of true Americans. Jane Fonda is a bitch of the highest order; and don't forget, traitor. For people like her, I hope Karma works overtime.

My next door neighbor's son was killed in Viet Nam; such a useless war. He was an Eagle Scout, and used to babysit me and my brothers when we were younger. His name was Jim Jerson (1LT James Ray Jerson). I will never forget him.

 

[vraiblonde]

at least shark jumping is mildly entertaining.

Only if you're doing it in a leather jacket. Then it's just pointless.

 

[Ken King]

Okay, let me spell this out for you, I'll type slowly since I know you can't read very fast.

You'll type slow because, well frankly, it appears that you are.

Please point out where in this thread anyone mentioned her spitting on any veterans, or where we talked about her going to the HH, or handing notes over to the NV.

Going to the HH and handing over notes to the VN were and are what many consider the treason.

We are talking about her treasonous actions that are all well documented and have numerous witnesses. I see reading comprehension is not your strong suit.

There are no treasonous acts, she was never charges, never indicted, survived both FBI and DOJ investigations, there was a Congressional inquiry which didn't result in her being charged either. So what if anything was treasonous?

Now, to use your logic, if someone commits a crime and it is on video but no charges are brought against them does that mean no crime was committed?

My logic is that if someone actually commits a crime they are charged, indicted, and have a trial, that's how its done right? Well where is all of that in this instance?

Why were charges not brought against her, those reasons have already been stated but I guess you only want to believe what you want to believe.

You have no clue what I believe or why. Unlike you I looked into the why and found that it was because there was no proof of the crime of treason and the DOJ couldn't prosecute. You are speculating as to the why, if you would take the time to read the Congressional transcripts when the DOJ was in front of Congress you might begin to understand, but I'm doubting it.

And before you accuse someone of being of low wattage I recommend you re-exam your own intelligence, your not the brightest bulb either.

Brighter than you son.

 

[Ken King]

I'd say you've jumped the shark, but while equally pointless at least shark jumping is mildly entertaining.

No shark jumping, who brought up that the DOJ is a political entity?

 

[vraiblonde]

No shark jumping, who brought up that the DOJ is a political entity?

But can we agree that it is a political entity regardless of what party is in power? I know that, you know that, and I know you know that, and you know I know you know that. So stop playing dumb blonde unless you want forum guys to start PMing you.

 

[kwillia]

Me thinks Ken King must have had a thing for Cat Ballou.

 

[GW8345]

You'll type slow because, well frankly, it appears that you are.

Going to the HH and handing over notes to the VN were and are what many consider the treason.

There are no treasonous acts, she was never charges, never indicted, survived both FBI and DOJ investigations, there was a Congressional inquiry which didn't result in her being charged either. So what if anything was treasonous?

My logic is that if someone actually commits a crime they are charged, indicted, and have a trial, that's how its done right? Well where is all of that in this instance?

You have no clue what I believe or why. Unlike you I looked into the why and found that it was because there was no proof of the crime of treason and the DOJ couldn't prosecute. You are speculating as to the why, if you would take the time to read the Congressional transcripts when the DOJ was in front of Congress you might begin to understand, but I'm doubting it.

Brighter than you son.

Dude, are you stoned or just naturally eff'ing stupid?

I see discussing this topic with you is a waste of time since you are incapable of logical thought and rational reasoning. To me, you are just another typical liberal moron, when you can’t discuss/debate the topic at hand you try to change it and then insult others intelligence.

So you are telling me that making propaganda records, being photographed and filmed while cheerfully sitting in the gunner seat of an enemies AAA gun and actively participating in an enemies attempt to demoralize our countries fighting forces (and POW’s) is not a treasonous act?

Who's the burned out light buld in this conversation then?

 

[Ken King]

But can we agree that it is a political entity regardless of what party is in power? I know that, you know that, and I know you know that, and you know I know you know that. So stop playing dumb blonde unless you want forum guys to start PMing you.

Don't worry sweetheart, I'm sure your reign as the dumb blonde will stay intact and I surely don't want to take any of the pms that you seem to deservedly receive.

Again I'll say that I loathe Jane Fonda, flat and simple. Nothing will ever change about that and for years I held the belief that her acts were those of a traitor, even without her being charged and prosecuted. Now, after doing a little more reading, refreshing myself with what she actually did, knowing the Constitutional hurdle to one being charged with treason and reading transcripts of her broadcasts, reading the transcripts from Hearings before the Committee on Internal Security, House of Representatives, 92 Congress, Second Session, I just can't hold to the treason claim any longer.

What she did was stupid beyond belief, it was an act of one of the influential peaceniks that, like many of her time, were vehemently against the war/police action in Viet Nam.

So I'll ask, what was her treasonous act, going to Viet Nam, doing the radio broadcasts, sitting in the seat at the AAA battery? What portion of her activity was levying war against the US, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort?

WinterSoldier has links to the broadcast transcripts as recorded by the CIA's Foreign Broadcast Information Service (FBIS). They also include pdf links to the Congressional testimony on Restraints on Travel to Hostile Areas (where questioning of the DOJ as to why Ms. Fonda wasn't being charged/prosecuted was covered), though I will admit that I read the Congressional testimony from a link through archive.gov and not on the wintersoldier site.

 

[Ken King]

Dude, are you stoned or just naturally eff'ing stupid?

Cool, lets attack instead you of low amoebic intelligence.

I see discussing this topic with you is a waste of time since you are incapable of logical thought and rational reasoning. To me, you are just another typical liberal moron, when you can’t discuss/debate the topic at hand you try to change it and then insult others intelligence.

But here you are doing it anyhow.

So it insults intelligence by having a discussion as to why the government never brought charges against Fonda? That the DOJ nor any other entity found sufficient cause to bring the matter to a court of law. The topic hasn't changed at all. Typical liberal, yeah right Libertarian, maybe, registered Republican actually, but no where a liberal, but I don't see them as evil (for the most part), just different.

So you are telling me that making propaganda records, being photographed and filmed while cheerfully sitting in the gunner seat of an enemies AAA gun and actively participating in an enemies attempt to demoralize our countries fighting forces (and POW’s) is not a treasonous act?

Exactly, that is why she was never charged. Get it.

Who's the burned out light buld in this conversation then?

You, naturally. You're stuck in the past and can't get a grip on what treason actually is.