Jesus is either the biggest fraud in history or He is exactly who He claims to be.

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
Midnightrider said:
he is repentent for his sins, so they don't count,
Cant you read between the lines!!!!
Just as all who confess Jesus as Savior and Lord have their sins covered by the blood shed at the cross. Everyone one can be white as new driven snow.
 

Midnightrider

Well-Known Member
2ndAmendment said:
My sins have been confessed and repented of in the last minute. God freely forgives those that repent.
and here is the rub with that way of thinking:
A person who is in love and "livining in sin" goes to hell
a repentent murderer or child molester is forgiven

I'm not sure i want to be a part of that heaven
 

K_Jo

Pea Brain
PREMO Member
Midnightrider said:
and here is the rub with that way of thinking:
A person who is in love and "livining in sin" goes to hell
a repentent murderer or child molester is forgiven

I'm not sure i want to be a part of that heaven
You rock! :dude:
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
Midnightrider said:
and here is the rub with that way of thinking:
A person who is in love and "livining in sin" goes to hell
a repentent murderer or child molester is forgiven

I'm not sure i want to be a part of that heaven
You have free will.
 

crabcake

But wait, there's more...
K_Jo said:
:lmao:

I never thought I'd live in sin (guilt-ridden Catholic), but if I hadn't, we wouldn't have made it through the first month of marriage. Of this I am sure. :patriot:
AMEN! :notworthy: :patriot:

I'd much rather live in sin with someone and fornicate so I know what I'm getting into than marrying them without that key knowledge. Heck, you wouldn't buy a car without test-driving it, would ya? :shrug:
 

mAlice

professional daydreamer
2ndAmendment said:
Just as all who confess Jesus as Savior and Lord have their sins covered by the blood shed at the cross. Everyone one can be white as new driven snow.


And that's what makes you feel better about yourself, isn't it? You can say anything you want, to anybody, so long as you ask for forgiveness after the fact? I'm at a loss for words.
 

mAlice

professional daydreamer
Midnightrider said:
and here is the rub with that way of thinking:
A person who is in love and "livining in sin" goes to hell
a repentent murderer or child molester is forgiven

I'm not sure i want to be a part of that heaven

I know I don't want to be a part of it. 2A's posts do nothing more than validate my belief.
 

crabcake

But wait, there's more...
elaine said:
And that's what makes you feel better about yourself, isn't it? You can say anything you want, to anybody, so long as you ask for forgiveness after the fact? I'm at a loss for words.
:clap: :clap:

That right there is what's always blown my gasket about some self-proclaimed men/women of God. :duh: "It's okay for me to screw up, cuz afterward, I just say, 'Ooops God, sorry! Forgive me? :frown:'"
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
crabcake said:
AMEN! :notworthy: :patriot:

I'd much rather live in sin with someone and fornicate so I know what I'm getting into than marrying them without that key knowledge. Heck, you wouldn't buy a car without test-driving it, would ya? :shrug:
You miss it. Did living in sin and fornicating prevent your breakup and divorce? Sex clouds the mind. You do not see the things that will irritate you because you are getting off.

The Jews used to live together without sexual relations for a year before marriage. That could make sense. Then you would indeed see the irritations and whether you could really live together in life.

I ask, is any sex you have had bad? Some better than others, yes, but none bad.
 

K_Jo

Pea Brain
PREMO Member
2ndAmendment said:
You miss it. Did living in sin and fornicating prevent your breakup and divorce? Sex clouds the mind. You do not see the things that will irritate you because you are getting off.

The Jews used to live together without sexual relations for a year before marriage. That could make sense. Then you would indeed see the irritations and whether you could really live together in life.

I ask, is any sex you have had bad? Some better than others, yes, but none bad.
You're thinking like a man. Sex does not cloud a woman's mind to the point where she can't see things that will irritate her. And there is such a thing as bad sex. VERY bad sex.
 

crabcake

But wait, there's more...
2ndAmendment said:
You miss it. Did living in sin and fornicating prevent your breakup and divorce? Sex clouds the mind. You do not see the things that will irritate you because you are getting off.

I ask, is any sex you have had bad? Some better than others, yes, but none bad.
1) I didn't live in sin with my ex. We married first, then lived together. Had I lived with him long enough (sex aside), I'd have NEVER married him!

2) Yes, I've had a bad lover before (but I won't elaborate on that story here! :lmao:) And you can call me a sinner, shallow or whatever you please, but I believe that a compatible, satisfying sex life is a key factor to a healthy relationship/marriage, and you don't find that out unless you test-drive the goods first.

Since we're getting personal, did you and Sharon wait to live together and have sex until after you married?
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
K_Jo said:
You're thinking like a man. Sex does not cloud a woman's mind to the point where she can't see things that will irritate her. And there is such a thing as bad sex. VERY bad sex.
Wow. I'm sorry for your problem.
 
2ndAmendment said:
Y
I ask, is any sex you have had bad? Some better than others, yes, but none bad.


Doesn't this disagree with your gay sex being bad thread discussed earlier? I'm confused now, is gay sex good or bad?
:patriot:
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
crabcake said:
1) I didn't live in sin with my ex. We married first, then lived together. Had I lived with him long enough (sex aside), I'd have NEVER married him!

2) Yes, I've had a bad lover before (but I won't elaborate on that story here! :lmao:) And you can call me a sinner, shallow or whatever you please, but I believe that a compatible, satisfying sex life is a key factor to a healthy relationship/marriage, and you don't find that out unless you test-drive the goods first.

Since we're getting personal, did you and Sharon wait to live together and have sex until after you married?
Yes.
 
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