JFK Files - News and Conspiracies

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
Yesterday, one subject dominated social media’s attention— the long-awaited JFK document release. The Times of Israel ran its story headlined, “Trump administration makes public thousands of files related to JFK assassination.” The sub-headline added, “About 2,200 files of over 63,000 pages posted to US National Archives, but no narrative-changing revelations expected; some documents deal with CIA ploys against Cuba’s Castro.”

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It is wall-to-wall hot takes. My first attempt to sort through all the independent takes on social media turned up outright fakes, ham-handed edits trying to boost narrative appeal and clicks, recycled, long-released documents claimed to be newly released, and overall it was something like a giant Rorschach test wherein influencers large and small declared with no hesitation or reservation whatsoever having conclusively scryed in the fog of early releases whatever predetermined conclusion they had long hoped to find.

Here’s what we know for sure. Tulsi Gabbard tweeted, somewhat ambiguously, that previously redacted files would be released without redactions. An attached press release said only, “the … and … RothXXXX … sausage.” The rest was blacked out. Haha, just kidding.

The unredacted press release used slightly different language from our Samoan-Hawaiian NSI Director, saying the “release consists of approximately 80,000 pages of previously classified records that will be published with no redactions.”

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What we got yesterday obviously isn’t all of them. Some documents weren’t included in this dump, including “documents only available for in-person viewing,” those “withheld under court seal or for grand jury secrecy, records subject to section 6103 of the Internal Revenue Code,” and a weathered carton of classified papers stored in Joe Biden’s garage that was mostly empty anyways.

The press release said the National Archives and the DOJ are working diligently, day and night (so to speak), on unsealing and uploading those final categories, but, as the press release pointed out, visitors and grand juries have already seen them.

The rushed document release was understandably unorganized, unsummarized, and unannotated, which instantly provoked horse-laughs of criticism and faux outrage. “This dump is profoundly more impenetrable than all the previous more annotated ones,” sniped David J. Garrow, a historian “who has written extensively about the intelligence agencies,” who spoke to the New York Times.

Mr. Garrow’s critique echoed across social media. Apparently, folks expected that the government not only would release the unredacted documents but also would highlight the smoking guns and feed them to us with an unredacted spoon. Don’t cancel me, but that optimistic expectation may have been slightly, just a smidge, unrealistic.


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The New York Times’s story agreed, saying, “Some documents appeared to have been versions of papers already released to the public. Others had no obvious connection to the assassination. It is also possible that Tuesday’s initial release did not include all the documents covered by Mr. Trump’s order.”

In other words, it’s still murky.

As far as I can tell from the first 12 hours of hot takes, there was some interesting new material released about the CIA’s Cold War dirty tricks and spy techniques that have intrigued some long-time deep-state watchers. For example, here’s Mike Benz:

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It’s a little wonky, but it seems the documents confirm that the CIA and related spy agencies were busy little beavers back then, creating libraries of anti-communist propaganda. Until 2020, I would have fully endorsed that, except that the deep-state’s narrative-spinning machine appears to have now been aimed back against us.

Just for flavor, here’s one wonky example of newly disclosed CIA work product:

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Try imagining a conference room of CIA spooks drafting children’s cartoon books, distributed in the sixties in their millions. So … what is the CIA up to these days? Transgender comics for school kids?

An emerging consensus among the trained reviewers was that these documents appear originally redacted to protect CIA methods rather than conceal a ‘real’ assassin. But again, it’s early, and that emerging consensus could still shift.

At this point, all we know for sure is that a lot of historically interesting documents have been released, nobody has yet found a smoking redaction pen, and we haven’t seen them all yet.



 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
It was perfectly understandable that the rancorous chatter over the newly disclosed JFK files continued all day yesterday. But out of the clamor, a new possibility began to emerge; the possibility that the real goal of the disclosures wasn’t to identify JFK’s killer, but to finish what the beloved 1960’s president started— scattering the intelligence agencies to the wind. (Hat tip to Clandestine, the independent researcher who first broke the Ukraine biolabs story.)

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The CIA fired up Operation Mongoose in 1961, right after its failed Bay of Pigs invasion. We’ll get that porky dictator! Aimed at destabilizing Cuba, the program included sabotage, economic warfare, assassination attempts, psyops, political subversion, covert paramilitary operations, and fantastically illegal false flags.

By 1963, disgusted by Mongoose, President Kennedy had firmly decided to “splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds.” And then, he was dead. Never mind!

We knew some details, thanks to a previous 1999 partial declassification. Some of the CIA’s proposed false flag operations, for example, included plans to stage fake terrorist attacks on American civilians and other military targets, including in Florida, to be blamed on Cuban nationalists.

Kennedy was outraged by the suggestions and ultimately removed CIA Chief Allan Dulles, who designed Operation Mongoose, and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, who’d signed off on it.

This week’s newly disclosed, unredacted JFK files included a batch of new, never-before-seen documents related to Operation Mongoose. One document that understandably caught Clandestine’s attention included details about biological attacks. The document was titled, “Minutes of the Meeting of the Special Group on Mongoose 6 Sep 1962.

Starting in paragraph number 4, a “General Carter” mentioned “agricultural sabotage.” Let’s just soak in the awful ramifications of that banal term, agricultural sabotage, which can only mean starving civilians to death to further military-political objectives. In case anyone needs to hear it, starving innocent civilians is not okay. In terms progressives can understand, we didn’t vote for that.

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Paragraph four also noted General Carter’s objection, which were “the disastrous results if something went wrong, particularly if there were obvious attribution to the U.S.” Meaning, he was worried somebody would find out what they did. But, General Carter reassured the room, “it would be possible to accomplish this purpose of agricultural sabotage— by methods more subtle than those indicated in the paper.”

A “Mr. Bundy” (presumably, not the serial killer Ted Bundy, but who knows) chimed in. Bundy “said that he had no worries about any such sabotage, which could clearly be” blamed on somebody else, like the Cubans. Mr. Bundy cautioned that America should avoid obvious things like chemical releases. That is, “unless they could be completely covered up.”

General Carter brought up a brilliant and very specific idea. “He mentioned specifically the possibility of producing crop failures by the introduction of biological agents which would appear to be of national origin.

Wait, what??

They should have called it “Operation Not Our Fault.” Instead of debating the morality of forced starvation through covert biological warfare, they were only worried about the optics.

I feel inclined to pen a fulsome and very sarcastic essay about Cold War era biological operations, which previously were only the fodder of kooky anti-CIA conspiracy theories. (Now confirmed, of course, as fact.) I have many questions. Where would the “biological agents” come from? Who was developing them? How much of this was — and is — going on? Who are these insane Stanley Kubrick-style cartoon villains working for CIA and dreaming up this kind of uncontrolled evil? Why have they lied about it all these years?

Does anybody who works for the government ever get in trouble for lying?

And … starvation of noncombatant civilians through covert biological attacks? What. On. Earth.

And of course … was covid a “biological agent” designed as a “subtle” way to “accomplish the purpose” of killing civilians? Was it supposed to happen in a way that “could be completely covered up?” Was covid designed to “appear to be of national origin” from China?

I pause, unable to withhold this comment, to note that destroying people’s crops is not clever. It’s not high-tech. It’s not spycraft. It’s not progress through peaceful means. It doesn’t take highly-skilled experts and supertrained spooks to dream up nightmarish ideas like this.

Rather, it only requires merciless brutality and ruthless amorality.

No wonder Kennedy wanted to scatter the intelligence agencies to the wind. It’s too bad he became the accidental victim of a rogue, lone gunman who used to be on CIA’s payroll and totally worked alone. ALL ALONE, never forget. (Coincidentally, just like Trump assassin Thomas Crooks. Just saying.)

But for today, let’s set all that aside. Let’s consider just the contemporaneous ramifications. Could this kind of quietly explosive material be the real reason for the releases? Could there be a much bigger goal than just exposing one dark secret (that can never be exposed)? Could all these unredacted CIA breadcrumbs —and the frightful fury arising from them— cause an inevitable collapse of the intelligence agencies?

Will Kennedy finally achieve his revenge— from beyond the grave?

Short of destroying them, could President Trump be disciplining the intelligence agencies, by slowly slipping out their secrets, one by one, starting with the oldest and therefore least objectionable ones? I mean, why should Operation Mongoose remain classified? The Soviet Union is a historical footnote. Cuba is no geopolitical threat. It’s a cruise-ship comedian’s punchline.

If Trump is using these disclosures to initiate the intelligence agencies’ controlled demolition, it would be the longest, slowest burn of political payback in history—JFK’s revenge served not just cold, but cryogenically frozen and thawed out decades later for maximum effect.
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The intelligence agencies built their Babylonic Tower of Power from bricks of secrecy. Trump is weaponizing their own secrets against them. If I’m right, it would be the most karmically delicious reversal in modern history.

Who’s the mongoose now? President Trump is the mongoose.

“And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil. For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his works should be exposed.” — John 3:19-20.



 

Kinnakeet

Well-Known Member
It was perfectly understandable that the rancorous chatter over the newly disclosed JFK files continued all day yesterday. But out of the clamor, a new possibility began to emerge; the possibility that the real goal of the disclosures wasn’t to identify JFK’s killer, but to finish what the beloved 1960’s president started— scattering the intelligence agencies to the wind. (Hat tip to Clandestine, the independent researcher who first broke the Ukraine biolabs story.)

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The CIA fired up Operation Mongoose in 1961, right after its failed Bay of Pigs invasion. We’ll get that porky dictator! Aimed at destabilizing Cuba, the program included sabotage, economic warfare, assassination attempts, psyops, political subversion, covert paramilitary operations, and fantastically illegal false flags.

By 1963, disgusted by Mongoose, President Kennedy had firmly decided to “splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds.” And then, he was dead. Never mind!

We knew some details, thanks to a previous 1999 partial declassification. Some of the CIA’s proposed false flag operations, for example, included plans to stage fake terrorist attacks on American civilians and other military targets, including in Florida, to be blamed on Cuban nationalists.

Kennedy was outraged by the suggestions and ultimately removed CIA Chief Allan Dulles, who designed Operation Mongoose, and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, who’d signed off on it.

This week’s newly disclosed, unredacted JFK files included a batch of new, never-before-seen documents related to Operation Mongoose. One document that understandably caught Clandestine’s attention included details about biological attacks. The document was titled, “Minutes of the Meeting of the Special Group on Mongoose 6 Sep 1962.

Starting in paragraph number 4, a “General Carter” mentioned “agricultural sabotage.” Let’s just soak in the awful ramifications of that banal term, agricultural sabotage, which can only mean starving civilians to death to further military-political objectives. In case anyone needs to hear it, starving innocent civilians is not okay. In terms progressives can understand, we didn’t vote for that.

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Paragraph four also noted General Carter’s objection, which were “the disastrous results if something went wrong, particularly if there were obvious attribution to the U.S.” Meaning, he was worried somebody would find out what they did. But, General Carter reassured the room, “it would be possible to accomplish this purpose of agricultural sabotage— by methods more subtle than those indicated in the paper.”

A “Mr. Bundy” (presumably, not the serial killer Ted Bundy, but who knows) chimed in. Bundy “said that he had no worries about any such sabotage, which could clearly be” blamed on somebody else, like the Cubans. Mr. Bundy cautioned that America should avoid obvious things like chemical releases. That is, “unless they could be completely covered up.”

General Carter brought up a brilliant and very specific idea. “He mentioned specifically the possibility of producing crop failures by the introduction of biological agents which would appear to be of national origin.

Wait, what??

They should have called it “Operation Not Our Fault.” Instead of debating the morality of forced starvation through covert biological warfare, they were only worried about the optics.

I feel inclined to pen a fulsome and very sarcastic essay about Cold War era biological operations, which previously were only the fodder of kooky anti-CIA conspiracy theories. (Now confirmed, of course, as fact.) I have many questions. Where would the “biological agents” come from? Who was developing them? How much of this was — and is — going on? Who are these insane Stanley Kubrick-style cartoon villains working for CIA and dreaming up this kind of uncontrolled evil? Why have they lied about it all these years?

Does anybody who works for the government ever get in trouble for lying?

And … starvation of noncombatant civilians through covert biological attacks? What. On. Earth.

And of course … was covid a “biological agent” designed as a “subtle” way to “accomplish the purpose” of killing civilians? Was it supposed to happen in a way that “could be completely covered up?” Was covid designed to “appear to be of national origin” from China?

I pause, unable to withhold this comment, to note that destroying people’s crops is not clever. It’s not high-tech. It’s not spycraft. It’s not progress through peaceful means. It doesn’t take highly-skilled experts and supertrained spooks to dream up nightmarish ideas like this.

Rather, it only requires merciless brutality and ruthless amorality.

No wonder Kennedy wanted to scatter the intelligence agencies to the wind. It’s too bad he became the accidental victim of a rogue, lone gunman who used to be on CIA’s payroll and totally worked alone. ALL ALONE, never forget. (Coincidentally, just like Trump assassin Thomas Crooks. Just saying.)

But for today, let’s set all that aside. Let’s consider just the contemporaneous ramifications. Could this kind of quietly explosive material be the real reason for the releases? Could there be a much bigger goal than just exposing one dark secret (that can never be exposed)? Could all these unredacted CIA breadcrumbs —and the frightful fury arising from them— cause an inevitable collapse of the intelligence agencies?

Will Kennedy finally achieve his revenge— from beyond the grave?

Short of destroying them, could President Trump be disciplining the intelligence agencies, by slowly slipping out their secrets, one by one, starting with the oldest and therefore least objectionable ones? I mean, why should Operation Mongoose remain classified? The Soviet Union is a historical footnote. Cuba is no geopolitical threat. It’s a cruise-ship comedian’s punchline.

If Trump is using these disclosures to initiate the intelligence agencies’ controlled demolition, it would be the longest, slowest burn of political payback in history—JFK’s revenge served not just cold, but cryogenically frozen and thawed out decades later for maximum effect.
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The intelligence agencies built their Babylonic Tower of Power from bricks of secrecy. Trump is weaponizing their own secrets against them. If I’m right, it would be the most karmically delicious reversal in modern history.

Who’s the mongoose now? President Trump is the mongoose.





Oswald did not act alone thats why he was killed...someone did not want him to tell them the truth and Jack Ruby killed oswald for that reason
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member

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The ‘radical’ theory I proposed yesterday —that the JFK disclosures aren’t really JFK assassination disclosures so much as disclosures of intelligence agency corruption — picked up steam yesterday, rounding the track with an impressive quarter-mile lead in early racing. The first striking example appeared in the New York Times, headlined “Were the Kennedy Files a Bust? Not So Fast, Historians Say.

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Our theme from yesterday, of the declassified files’ alternate historic importance, began right in the sub-headline: “The thousands of documents posted online this week disappointed assassination buffs. But Cold War historians are finding many newly revealed secrets.”

The historians —who already knew a lot— were described as being shocked to their cores. “I didn’t think I’d live to see it,” one told the Times. “This opens a door on a whole history of collaboration between the Vatican and the C.I.A., which, boy, would be explosive,” another said.

The article wasted no time providing an example—a 1973 “Family Jewels” memo written by Walter Elder addressed to then-CIA Director William Colby. Here’s how the Times described Elder’s memo:

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Calling the disclosures “remarkable,” the Times described how, collectively, the newly unredacted documents described CIA malfeasance on a global scale, including coups and election interference (!).

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For example, another now-unredacted 1967 report by the CIA’s inspector general disclosed the agency’s 1961 assassination of Dominican dictator Rafael Trujillo — including the names of all the CIA agents involved in the plot. Other documents revealed CIA efforts to interfere in elections in Finland, Peru and Somalia, which had previously been relegated to ‘conspiracy theory’ status, or were even entirely unknown before now.

There was also new information about CIA’s involvement in failed and successful coups in a devil’s inventory of countries, including Brazil, Haiti (!), and what is now Guyana. The CIA has been meddling in the whole world.

Other now visible passages revealed, among other salacious details, that nearly half the political officers in American embassies worldwide were working for the CIA. “That’s … astonishing,” Dr. Logevall, a Harvard historian working on a multivolume Kennedy biography, lamely said, grasping for adequate words.
 
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