Judge orders Maryland to continue paying federally enhanced unemployment benefits

GURPS

INGSOC
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We’re witnessing something rather unique in terms of lawsuits involving federal funding. In general, whenever the federal government appropriates money to be made available to the states for any reason, the states will quickly line up to grab their share and vacuum up every penny. This is particularly true if there’s an opportunity to hand money out to the voters since everyone loves “free money” and it tends to benefit the elected officials giving it out.

But now we have a state going to court to claim the right to not take the cash. Hogan’s argument is fairly simple. He’s saying that there are a record number of job openings in Maryland and employers can’t find enough workers to fill them all. Part of the reason for that is the unusually high unemployment benefits many are receiving over a far longer period of time than would normally be possible. Ending the federal enhancements would tempt more people to get back to work. He also notes that normal unemployment benefits without the federal enhancements will remain available.

Thus far, the attorneys for the plaintiffs don’t seem to have identified the specific portions of state laws or the constitution that require the state to “maximize the use of federal assistance programs.” Perhaps that can be inferred from some passages even if it’s not explicitly stated in that language. But is that close enough? It seems as if there is a difference between regularly contracted federal payments to the state and emergency funds that are “made available” for states that wish to apply for them. Hogan’s case appears to ride on the argument that if he doesn’t ask for the money, the remaining funds simply stay in Washington.

This should be an interesting case to keep an eye on. Instead of battling over ways to suck up as much taxpayer money as possible, we’re watching a state government fight for the right to shut off the spigot. Even if Hogan prevails, I get the impression that this isn’t a precedent that will be invoked very often.





 

LightRoasted

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It took a couple of months to fully decimate jobs and begin the decimation of small businesses from the beginning of this fiasco. And to ensure that destruction, allowed it to continue well into this year. Just because Fat Larry, (and other 'Republican' governors), says everything is back to normal and stopped the UI funding, doesn't mean all is well. Sure there may be some jobs, but they are the low paying hospitality service type jobs. Of which employers, (corporation ran entities), are unwilling to increase wages to compensate for the lost purchasing power of the dollar due to inflation. Those small businesses, the mom and pops, the sole proprietor businesses, that were forced to shutter, the ones that lost everything and spent all their savings in an attempt to weather the shutdown, will never return. It will take as long a time to return to previous employment levels, taking more than the time the fiasco was allowed to continue. And let's not forget that not one government employee lost their job or was laid off or furloughed, and continued to receive their full paychecks, even when not working. Corporations and large business profited from the PPP program, and yet still laid off workers. Government created this mess, and by right ought to continue the compensation of those that suffered and bore the brunt of this BS pandemic until such time as jobs begin to pay wages that commensurate with the increases of inflation. Else people will never be able financially catch up or to lift themselves out of this intentional economic destruction.
 

PrchJrkr

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It took a couple of months to fully decimate jobs and begin the decimation of small businesses from the beginning of this fiasco. And to ensure that destruction, allowed it to continue well into this year. Just because Fat Larry, (and other 'Republican' governors), says everything is back to normal and stopped the UI funding, doesn't mean all is well. Sure there may be some jobs, but they are the low paying hospitality service type jobs. Of which employers, (corporation ran entities), are unwilling to increase wages to compensate for the lost purchasing power of the dollar due to inflation. Those small businesses, the mom and pops, the sole proprietor businesses, that were forced to shutter, the ones that lost everything and spent all their savings in an attempt to weather the shutdown, will never return. It will take as long a time to return to previous employment levels, taking more than the time the fiasco was allowed to continue. And let's not forget that not one government employee lost their job or was laid off or furloughed, and continued to receive their full paychecks, even when not working. Corporations and large business profited from the PPP program, and yet still laid off workers. Government created this mess, and by right ought to continue the compensation of those that suffered and bore the brunt of this BS pandemic until such time as jobs begin to pay wages that commensurate with the increases of inflation. Else people will never be able financially catch up or to lift themselves out of this intentional economic destruction.
Most of those still milking UI benefits aren't exactly the cream of the crop. I just came from 7-11 and Stephnie told me my total was $1.06. I handed her a dollar, a quarter, and a penny from the penny cup. She punches some buttons, puts the penny back in the cup, and hands me .19 in change. :banghead:
 

BernieP

Resident PIA
This is one of the very few things that hogan is right about and the Fed wants to screw it up.
Follow the reason, businesses are being forced to cut hours and raise prices.
Why? These trillion dollar stimulus programs.
Go around the county, small businesses, particularly the restaurant business, can't hire people.
Also they are being forced to pass along the cost of inflation. Double whammy, shortages caused by the ripple effect of the supply chain.
Producers can't ship what they can't process.
The backbone of the economy, the small business is being hit hard.
But fear not, the Democrats have a plan - Blame Trump, blame the GOP, because they don't want to support the Biden stimulus program that would enable the federal government to basically take over all state and local jurisdictions. Control over zoning, schools, and elections.
Basically turning the constitution on its ear.
 

glhs837

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Biden has said he's going to keep paying until people raise wages. "Pay them more" he whispered like a bad actor.....
 

LightRoasted

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Most of those still milking UI benefits aren't exactly the cream of the crop. I just came from 7-11 and Stephnie told me my total was $1.06. I handed her a dollar, a quarter, and a penny from the penny cup. She punches some buttons, puts the penny back in the cup, and hands me .19 in change. :banghead:
Should have just taken 6 pennies from the penny cup instead.
 

Hijinx

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I can see that many people who are getting this money do not want to work for low wages.
But the fact is that many of them were working for low wages before the shut down.

So what do you do to get them to go back to work. Shut off the spigot.
If we continue to pay them more than they were earning before the shut down we will be paying them forever and no one will be doing the low wage work.
I don't like the fact that they would be forced to work for low wages, but the fact is there are low wage jobs and a low wage job is better than no job. At least it is if you want to eat.
 

DaSDGuy

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An example of people who would rather take the money than work - the deli at Walmart is closed because they can't find anyone willing to work. They get more from state and federal unemployment.
 

herb749

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I'm waiting to see what happens when all those who didn't pay their rent receive what they owe. Then the cries will be for a bailout of people who didn't pay. They may have received money but likely knew the govt would step in to help them out and abused the system.
 

LightRoasted

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By the way, all that is happening is a result of the effects from a total fiat currency and should be expected. Housing rents have soared 22% since Jan 2020, food is up 67.25% since July 2020. Everything, across all sectors, price inflation, is way up since last year. Exactly how are people supposed to make it financially at the old wages they were being paid? You really cannot blame people for their predicaments for things beyond their control when looked through the lens of a fiat currency scheme and entities choosing the winners and losers.
 

black dog

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By the way, all that is happening is a result of the effects from a total fiat currency and should be expected. Housing rents have soared 22% since Jan 2020, food is up 67.25% since July 2020. Everything, across all sectors, price inflation, is way up since last year. Exactly how are people supposed to make it financially at the old wages they were being paid? You really cannot blame people for their predicaments for things beyond their control when looked through the lens of a fiat currency scheme and entities choosing the winners and losers.

And where exactly is this happening? It ain't happening here...
 

LightRoasted

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And where exactly is this happening? It ain't happening here...
I'm sure it will arrive where you are, give it time.
 

DaSDGuy

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Link posted said Laguna Beach, CA. Probably one of the top ten highest cost of real estate locations in the country. It has a small, limited amount of land available and is high in demand.
Not an average benchmark for projecting cost of living across the country.
 
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