watercolor said:
wow..I was really excited to see that local talent was getting things up and running with a a local label. But now- I am curious as to why and how they are doing business when, the person who is the owner is a rude, and pompous jerk. Through the grapevine- of people I have had the pleasure of meeting, and hearing their stuff- they went to contact this "owner" in persuance.... only to be treated like dirt- and like this person was their "god" and they didnt mean anything. He would claim things to be 'uneducated and immature', and other such untactful things. Forgive me, but I dont see him as a L.A. Reed or a Quincy Jones. He is just trying to get into the industry and knocking the dust of his boots. I do however see that he is a new business trying to bring a common good, from something- but he isnt going about it in a manner that will bring customers. Which is very sad- seeing as this could be a great and brilliant idea.
They had also asked about the possibility of promotion on the website- but upon actually looking at it- with the ad's that are generic for a common browser- plastered all over it, and the 'professional' apperance being hard to read, and having to adjust your eyes- they chose to go in a different direction. They feel as if they are going to be represented by a company who is going to 'label' them- that they should at least get the proper care and proper exploitation of their works, but again, after reviewing said website, and actually talking to this person- they feel as though it would not be in their best interest- when the said owner has not taken the time to promote correctly. He told them countless times that he is not trying to 'impress anyone with looks', but when something is sold by looks, along with any demo's, it needs to be appealing to the eye. I would think for a company that is wanting to be in a business like this- it is TO EARLY to have an ego this high.
In closing, I am writing this, only as a vent- because I was thinking about passing his name along to the current band a couple of my friends are in- but I am not so sure that is a good thing to do, seeing as his "work ethic" has shown to be less than tasteless.
Has anyone else had problems with this dude? Is this company even worth their time with trying again? Can someone recommend someone else who will treat them better? I am really only writing this commentary to hopefully be able to change their mind- and maybe that this dude isnt really a jerk. As he has a good idea- but at the rate he is going- it is going to bomb in a heartbeat.
watercolor said:
wow..I was really excited to see that local talent was getting things up and running with a a local label. But now- I am curious as to why and how they are doing business when, the person who is the owner is a rude, and pompous jerk. Through the grapevine- of people I have had the pleasure of meeting, and hearing their stuff- they went to contact this "owner" in persuance.... only to be treated like dirt- and like this person was their "god" and they didnt mean anything. He would claim things to be 'uneducated and immature', and other such untactful things. Forgive me, but I dont see him as a L.A. Reed or a Quincy Jones. He is just trying to get into the industry and knocking the dust of his boots. I do however see that he is a new business trying to bring a common good, from something- but he isnt going about it in a manner that will bring customers. Which is very sad- seeing as this could be a great and brilliant idea.
They had also asked about the possibility of promotion on the website- but upon actually looking at it- with the ad's that are generic for a common browser- plastered all over it, and the 'professional' apperance being hard to read, and having to adjust your eyes- they chose to go in a different direction. They feel as if they are going to be represented by a company who is going to 'label' them- that they should at least get the proper care and proper exploitation of their works, but again, after reviewing said website, and actually talking to this person- they feel as though it would not be in their best interest- when the said owner has not taken the time to promote correctly. He told them countless times that he is not trying to 'impress anyone with looks', but when something is sold by looks, along with any demo's, it needs to be appealing to the eye. I would think for a company that is wanting to be in a business like this- it is TO EARLY to have an ego this high.
In closing, I am writing this, only as a vent- because I was thinking about passing his name along to the current band a couple of my friends are in- but I am not so sure that is a good thing to do, seeing as his "work ethic" has shown to be less than tasteless.
Has anyone else had problems with this dude? Is this company even worth their time with trying again? Can someone recommend someone else who will treat them better? I am really only writing this commentary to hopefully be able to change their mind- and maybe that this dude isnt really a jerk. As he has a good idea- but at the rate he is going- it is going to bomb in a heartbeat.
Well, since "Watercolor", I mean Jesse Webb, I know this because he left a few words in this message that are exact as was in the email he sent me the first time are the same in this message and those were are were only used between him and I on one occasion, it's valid proof, wants to make this a public dispute, I would like to offer the email that Jesse sent to me, this is the very first contact that I have ever had with Jesse, so, we can now see that his argument has no real basis, since he came off to me as being what he says that I am.
Read on, and see for yourself what kind of person Jesse is, I mean Watercolor:
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This email was received by Super Coop Records on Monday 1/22/07:
" I dropped by your website (Super Coop Records) which I saw on SOMD.com's forums and because I know a few people in the local band scene, I figured I'd check it out and see what you had to offer... I was a little intrigued and a little disappointed... I'll explain...
I wasn't impressed by your website and the fact you offer bands websites, I'd hope they look better than your own... free flash buttons, old and out dated backgrounds and more pre-placed ad's than I'd care to shake a stick at... as well as your lack of a real URL... but, you are only beginning... I'd suggest taking a look at Yahoo's domain pricing (10 bucks a month) and packages that include a real URL and no ad's... it'll help... just MHO... also get someone to do a nice website with original graphics... I do like the old school attempt at your logo using the Dark Crystal font LOL
I was, however, excited to see you're doing something I had thought of doing not to long ago... getting local talent together, under one label, is something I'm interested in seeing happen and you guys are in the first step in the right direction... I really do hope you guys get your stuff together a little deeper and get running... I'll be passing along your name to a few people I know... I also added you to my MySpace account (which sounds really gay typed out) but that seems to be the way to promote yourself...
Good luck,
Jesse
Lone Dog Productions"
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Now, had Jesse not made such unneeded comments regarding the website, I would not have told him how I felt about his comments, however, if you are willing dish out some poor opinions related to nothing other than your own personal attacks on someone you know nothing about, then you are capable of accepting my honest reply.
As for myself and Super Coop Records, yes it is a new venture and I have the utmost respect and professional attitude towards bands and musicians that I have been in contact with since I took SCR public and I am trying to help local bands in Southern Maryland promote and market themselves. For anyone who knows me personally I have a great reputation and I have made a lot of friends in the local music scene, however, when someone like Jesse comes in with a full attack like he did in that email he sent me, I will let you know how I feel. And as I see he also wants to make this a public attack so have at Jesse. I assure you that the bands I have been in contact with will back me up when I say I have offered them nothing but a professional attitude. And if you say I have this unprofessional attitude, please go ask these bands if my correspondence with them was so horrible:
ShallowDeep
Fallaway
Broken Stigma
This You Can Count On
Minus-One
Six-Killer
I don't know if Jesse is upset about the introduction of SCR in the local area, it appears that he has some competitions in the local market, however, I have yet to see any proof myself that Lone Dog Productions even exists, so, in short, I'm not quite sure what Jesse's game is with his arguement.
I am simply trying to help out the local bands in Southern Maryland to promote their bands, there is no catches and no gimmicks here, SCR is a home-brewed promotional and marketing resource for local bands. If the bands do not have the interest in pursuing what I have to offer, I can not force them, it's a free-will issue when you promote your music and how you intend to do it is strictly up to the band, all I can do is say hey, "I think I can help you, if you want it, the rest is up to them".
Simply put, Jesse has begun a major retaliation again Super Coop Records and I have not the slightest idea what his issue is. If anyone would like to see the email that I sent to him, I'll let you have it, it's really neat.
Thanks Peeps,
Dwight
Super Coop Records
