kids and makeup

lucky_bee

RBF expert
I enjoy reading the Dear Prudence articles, sometimes I agree with her, sometimes I think she's an outdated old fart. Sometimes I love seeing how spun up people get over the simplest things. This time around, the reactions all around seem a little concerning. article link here

Original Question:


Q. Makeup for My Little Nieces: I’m a college student home for the summer who took her nieces, ages 5 and 9, out for a day. While I was reapplying my red lipstick, the two girls begged me to let them wear it too because they wanted to look like me. I agreed. Later that day we took a picture, which I posted on Facebook. Their mother, my aunt, went ballistic, saying, among other things, that I was sexualizing them and a bad role model for wearing lipstick myself. She now doesn’t want me near my nieces and isn’t talking to my mom (her sister), who took my side on the issue. I’m really upset over this situation because I love spending time with my nieces and believe my aunt is teaching them toxic “lessons” about female sexuality. My question is twofold—first, was I wrong to let them wear lipstick, and second, what should I do now to reconcile this situation?


A: How sad that your aunt turned a fun day for her girls—topped by an application of fire engine red—into a bizarre and ugly gender war. Humans have been decorating themselves since we emerged as humans—prehistoric sites are filled with ochre used for body decorations, and little girls have always loved to play dress-up. Sadly, there’s no winning here. Your aunt is wrong, but she’s the mother of these girls. (She really believes a college student is either a hussy or betraying her sex by wearing makeup?) If you want to keep seeing your nieces, be the big one and apologize to your aunt. Say you were out of line to put lipstick on the kids, you understand why she was upset, and it won’t happen again. If she wants to hold this crazy grudge, then my heart goes out to her daughters, who have a lot of unpleasant years with a punitive mother ahead.


:crazy:

Since it was a live chat, there are several more live responses included in the rest of the article.


Now, I understand the need to request a parent's permission about posting pics to FB...she deserved a very light tap on the wrist for that I guess, but to go ballistic over 'sexualizing her kids' and being a bad role model over some lipstick?! Overreact much? Some of the comments really kill me too

"I'm more concerned about the lead and chemicals in makeup. They're bad enough for adults but for developing children it has to be worst. As far as you wearing makeup that is your choice. As far as the girls, it's the mother's choice." :shutup:


This makes me want to pull my hair out, but then again I don't have kids so maybe I'm just a hussy even though red lipstick looks awful on me :ohwell: All of my close friends have young daughters and I could never see them having this kind of reaction over some lipstick. In fact my fondest memories with LT's little monster is how, when I lived with them, she used to always copy me! I'd kick off my 3" heels the moment I came home from work and brat would immediately attempt to run around the house in them claiming she was just like Bee! She was always digging in our purses for "whipstick" which is really tinted chapstick with us basic hussies, you couldn't apply it if she was within a 10ft radius without her asking for whipstick too!

And I still have the funniest pic I sent LT a couple years ago of my favorite tinted lip balm, because one day I opened it up at work and a good chunk of it had clearly been bitten off, could still see the impressions of two little toddler sized teefs :killingme


Ask your niece to take down the picture from FB, remind her about parents' permissions with their kids and social media, politely point out RED isn't her color, and continue letting her be a good friend to your daughters. :shrug:
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
PREMO Member
Patron
First off, those aren't her nieces - they are her cousins.

But that's neither here nor there. Aunt has a right to not allow her daughters to wear lipstick, but I didn't think the OP did anything wrong. I thought it was just something cute and fun that she did, and the aunt is a bit of a nut. But that's her right to blow it out of proportion. Even though she sounds like an overreacting flake.

If she wants to make nice, OP should apologize to her aunt. Say it didn't even occur to her that the aunt might object, but now that she knows it won't happen again.
 

luvmygdaughters

Well-Known Member
I wouldn't be so upset about the lipstick, but, posting the pictures to facebook would bother me. Especially if the Mother has never posted her daughters pictures on facebook. I wouldn't forbid the girl from seeing her cousins, just a promise that it wouldn't happen again.
 

DQ2B

Active Member
I wouldn't be so upset about the lipstick, but, posting the pictures to facebook would bother me. Especially if the Mother has never posted her daughters pictures on facebook. I wouldn't forbid the girl from seeing her cousins, just a promise that it wouldn't happen again.

:yeahthat: Same here. The lipstick would be a non-issue but posting the photos would probably set me off. I don't think anyone should post photos of someone else, child or adult, without their or the parents permission.
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
PREMO Member
Patron
One of my cousins is very young - 11 years old. I can see myself spending the day with her, putting lipstick and maybe a funny hat or something on both of us and posting a pic to Facebook. I know her folks wouldn't mind that and would think it was cute.

:shrug:
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
I enjoy reading the Dear Prudence articles, sometimes I agree with her, sometimes I think she's an outdated old fart.

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A: How sad that your aunt turned a fun day for her girls—topped by an application of fire engine red—into a bizarre and ugly gender war. Humans have been decorating themselves since we emerged as humans .....

:doh:

oh well ok
.... since it was done in the past is is ok in the present

Aztecs tossed Virgins into a pit ... maybe it should be revived :jet:

at the end of the day, this college student should follow the mothers wishes, or expect to never be let near the daughters, until the are over 18 making their own decisions ....
I would not want any family member tarting up my daughter with fire engine red lipstick ...
 

libertytyranny

Dream Stealer
Try to keep my kid away from lipstick and pics :lmao: and I would have no problems with anyone I trusted enough to stay with my kid all day, putting pic up on facebook. I have zero clue why people get all spun up about it. As if there are pedophiles just trolling facebook waiting for a pic of your kid in lipstick. Anyone I would trust with my kid is someone with good sense and would thus not just post my kid's pic for the open internet or one that cleary identifies where she lives. We have become so terrified of life its pathetic, the boogey monster of the random internet pedophile just isn't true. Your child is more likely to be abused by a family member, not someone random from facebook.
 

lucky_bee

RBF expert
Try to keep my kid away from lipstick and pics :lmao: and I would have no problems with anyone I trusted enough to stay with my kid all day, putting pic up on facebook. I have zero clue why people get all spun up about it. As if there are pedophiles just trolling facebook waiting for a pic of your kid in lipstick. Anyone I would trust with my kid is someone with good sense and would thus not just post my kid's pic for the open internet or one that cleary identifies where she lives. We have become so terrified of life its pathetic, the boogey monster of the random internet pedophile just isn't true. Your child is more likely to be abused by a family member, not someone random from facebook.

no chit :jet:

I always tag you anyways.

"JUST TO CLARIFY I do NOT share DNA with this little blonde goober!" :lol:
 

luvmygdaughters

Well-Known Member
Unfortunately, the times we live in and the access to social media, has opened up doors for everyone, not just good people, all people. Again, its the mothers decision to allow photo's of her daughters on facebook.
 

SoMDGirl42

Well-Known Member
From the time my oldest daughter was about 2, the first thing she would ask my mother for was to put lickstick (on purpose) on her. I don't wear lipstick. Every single time she saw her. She was 2! By the time she was 4, I was buying chapstick on a weekly (seemed like it) basis. To this day, my oldest will be 29 in Aug, she goes no where, and I mean NO WHERE without her chapstick.

Seriously? This is what people get so spun up about? Lipstick??? Good god those girls have a long life ahead of them.

I learned from a very wise person when I started having kids, PICK YOUR BATTLES. I would much rather have my 11 year old play dress up (with her female cousin) with red lipstick and post pictures then play spin the bottle with the boys next door for Christ sake.
 

luvmygdaughters

Well-Known Member
Agree with the lipstick, not posting pictures without parents consent. In the "old" days, the only people who would see pictures of your family is family and close friends. Now, you share a picture on facebook with YOUR friends, they like it and the next thing you know, hundreds of people can be seeing pictures of your children. To each his own, I personally, would not want anyone posting pictures of my kids on social media.
 
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