Know anyone quitting over the Federal Employee vaccine mandate?

[PeoplesElbow]

It will be interesting if they require proof or just someone saying they were vaccinated.

I've been vaccinated, but it is none of their buisness.

I know a couple quitting over having to wear a mask.

 

[vraiblonde]

Just reminder of the bigger picture:
For the most of human history, we lived under tyranny — either permanent one of rulers, or temporary tyranny of a band of raiders who came over the hill and took over your farm while you were scratching the ground with a stick trying to grow food.
All our ancestors were worried about soldiers coming to rape their daughters, with all of us being a result of those activities, somewhere down the line, for millennia. (BTW, you just called your ancestors morons).
The strength of the human spirit is in having it happen to you, picking yourself up, wiping off blood and tears, and continuing to live. Build anew, raise children, and hope to make their world just a little bit better.

See, there's a difference between our badass ancestors who threw the wife and kids into a wagon, hitched up the horses, and made their way over the Rockies to settle in the west; and, say, Iraqis who did nothing while Saddam's kids were filling up rape rooms. Our ancestors fled or fought back, they didn't just sit there and take it.

I am not saying I'd lay down and die, I am saying I'd fight back even if it meant I'd be killed.

 

[black dog]

Interesting statement...

And biden just said it.

"This is not about freedom or personal choice."

 

[UglyBear]

See, there's a difference between our badass ancestors who threw the wife and kids into a wagon, hitched up the horses, and made their way over the Rockies to settle in the west; and, say, Iraqis who did nothing while Saddam's kids were filling up rape rooms. Our ancestors fled or fought back, they didn't just sit there and take it.

I am not saying I'd lay down and die, I am saying I'd fight back even if it meant I'd be killed.

See, that’s the difference — your (truly) bad-ass ancestors HAD a place to go on their wagon. West, mostly fertile, mostly cleared of Injuns by diseases. That’s what allowed such independence of spirit in Americans. Sadly it seems that independence has been decreasing with overpopulation.
Those poor Iraqis are same humans as you and me — except they had nowhere to go to escape.
In the end, they still won — Saddam and his monster progeny are dead, but ordinary Iraqis are welcoming new babies into the world.

 

[UglyBear]

See, there's a difference between our badass ancestors who threw the wife and kids into a wagon, hitched up the horses, and made their way over the Rockies to settle in the west; and, say, Iraqis who did nothing while Saddam's kids were filling up rape rooms. Our ancestors fled or fought back, they didn't just sit there and take it.

I am not saying I'd lay down and die, I am saying I'd fight back even if it meant I'd be killed.

Btw, this would have been an epic and awesome discussion on a deck overlooking some kind of water with a couple of pitchers of something alcoholic.

 

[vraiblonde]

See, that’s the difference — your (truly) bad-ass ancestors HAD a place to go on their wagon. West, mostly fertile, mostly cleared of Injuns by diseases. That’s what allowed such independence of spirit in Americans. Sadly it seems that independence has been decreasing with overpopulation.
Those poor Iraqis are same humans as you and me — except they had nowhere to go to escape.
In the end, they still won — Saddam and his monster progeny are dead, but ordinary Iraqis are welcoming new babies into the world.

There are plenty of places to go in America, believe me. Joe fired a shot when he said he'd get non-compliant Governors "out of the way" and they are pissed big time. This oughta be interesting.....

And the Iraqis didn't win - we sent our sons and daughters over to do the job they wouldn't. Think about that - 18 and 20 year old girls fought and died while adult Iraqi men cowered and wouldn't even take a stand to protect their wives and children. I think most of us can say honestly that we'd die to protect our children, and I have very strong feelings about grown men who cower like rats while their daughters and wives are abused.

 

[LightRoasted]

If I may ...

I'm till trying to figure out from whence such authority comes? I've looked, and yet just can't seem to find it.

 

[Bare-ya-cuda]

If I may ...

I'm till trying to figure out from whence such authority comes? I've looked, and yet just can't seem to find it.

Just ask topdowntranny or any of its MPS’s on here. It will surely find a cnn story that states where joe has the authority

 

[OccamsRazor]

I wonder, does this only apply to those who work directly with the fed? Example. McDonald's has contracts with the fed right? Does that mean every employee of the company needs vaccinated or just those that work on bases or in service of bases?

 

[vraiblonde]

I wonder, does this only apply to those who work directly with the fed? Example. McDonald's has contracts with the fed right? Does that mean every employee of the company needs vaccinated or just those that work on bases or in service of bases?

That's a good question. They probably didn't think about that. There's a lot they don't think about before they hand down these edicts.

 

[PeoplesElbow]

I wonder if I refuse to give proof if I will be put in an unpaid status and when it is declared unconstitutional I will get back pay.... Hello 6 month vacation.

 

[Monello]

I’ve talked to 2 people tonight who were not gonna get the jab, but both work for the feds and are gonna cave. They are both in a position to quit/retire or be fired and be ok but they will comply. I was disappointed to hear this.

They can go work for the post office.

 

[HemiHauler]

Precisely zero people will quit over this. Why walk away from a well-paying job (at taxpayer expense) and a sweet pension (also at taxpayer expense)?

 

[LightRoasted]

If I may ...

I wonder if I refuse to give proof if I will be put in an unpaid status and when it is declared unconstitutional I will get back pay.... Hello 6 month vacation.

Ask for, demand, proof of vaccination from every person above your position; Your supervisor, your boss, the CEO, everyone, before you think of getting the "vaccine". Until you can verify they have had the "vaccine", you do not get the injection.

 

[Dakota]

Precisely zero people will quit over this. Why walk away from a well-paying job (at taxpayer expense) and a sweet pension (also at taxpayer expense)?

You might think that but many are indeed walking. They want nothing to do with any of this and I am aware of some of my sister's friends who decided they can manage on 1 income and are going to stay home and home school their children.

 

[HemiHauler]

You might think that but many are indeed walking. They want nothing to do with any of this and I am aware of some of my sister's friends who decided they can manage on 1 income and are going to stay home and home school their children.

Yes, there's always the "I know someone who knows someone who knows someone..." phenomenon. These sorts of things are never really verifiable in open sources of public news or information. The one or two who can be tracked down, when you dig into it, you will very likely find they were eligible for retirement already, but just milking the system another year to two in order to achieve that maximum pension, or some other lavish bennie at taxpayer expense.

No one will quit over this. When you go to work for the government, you are already a ward of the State and as such you'll do what you're told. The govvie gravy train is just too valuable to give up. Mind you, I don't support any mandate of any sort, but when one works for Uncle Sugar, options are limited.

 

[PeoplesElbow]

Yes, there's always the "I know someone who knows someone who knows someone..." phenomenon. These sorts of things are never really verifiable in open sources of public news or information. The one or two who can be tracked down, when you dig into it, you will very likely find they were eligible for retirement already, but just milking the system another year to two in order to achieve that maximum pension, or some other lavish bennie at taxpayer expense.

No one will quit over this. When you go to work for the government, you are already a ward of the State and as such you'll do what you're told. The govvie gravy train is just too valuable to give up. Mind you, I don't support any mandate of any sort, but when one works for Uncle Sugar, options are limited.

Oh please, a gvt employee can just about take a dump on their bosses desk without being fired before receiving training and counseling to tell them they can't do that.

I'm vaccinated but am not providing the proof to prove a point, that and to see how many paid days I can get out of an illegal mandate.

 

[BOP]

Just ask topdowntranny or any of its MPS’s on here. It will surely find a cnn story that states where joe has the authority

Because the Won said "I have a pen and I have a phone." Or however it was he said it. It's transferable, you see.

 

[Misfit]

The article says Executive branch employee's. I looked up that definition and don't know if I know any.

 

[HemiHauler]

Oh please, a gvt employee can just about take a dump on their bosses desk without being fired before receiving training and counseling to tell them they can't do that.

I'm vaccinated but am not providing the proof to prove a point, that and to see how many paid days I can get out of an illegal mandate.

You may not have meant to, but you've made a good argument for making ALL government employees at-will, like most private sector employment. This means you can be fired at any time, for any reason, including NO REASON at all.

I've never worked for the government, but I will take your word for it. The stereotype is that it's nigh impossible to fire a govvie is pervasive, but I don't have any first-hand experience.

And, yes, you're right -- the mandate will be challenged but it likely won't be stopped on Constitutional grounds. The best chance is to hope for a violation of the Administrative Procedures Act, not that I've looked at this to see if that might be a possibility. But as my grandfather used to say -- it's easy to get an unconstitutional law passed, but extremely difficult (and expensive) to get it found unconstitutional and struck down. And he would know, he was a constitutional lawyer.