LA is burning

Clem72

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?? no idea what you are asking about.
You said losing your home isn't fun, and I was just pointing out that the experience differs when you are wealthy enough to have multiple homes, and if the one that was most likely build in the 1950s-1970s and insured for several million dollars burned down that you might have a nice pay-day ahead or a nice NEW property in your future.
 

BOP

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Strap in; this will piss you off. This started on my FB page. Read the article first. Don't worry; it's not very long.


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Here is my response:
"A spokesperson with CAL Fire says that is patently false. 'No vehicles from Oregon have been turned around or refused service at Davis Mobile Equipment and all out-of-state vehicles have been services [sic] and are heading to or have arrived in Southern California. No emissions testing was performed. All repairs were completed the same day with the exception of a couple because of parts but turn around was early next day,' CAL Fire Spokesperson via email."

Note that for some reason, presumably the CHP called "Davis Mobile Equipment" to inspect the out-of-state (again, presumably) fire trucks/equipment.

As a former auto mechanic in California, who performed SMOG inspections for 20 years, to say that "no emissions testing was performed" is a lie.

There are 2 basic parts to a California SMOG inspection: the visual, which checks to see that all the equipment (AIR pumps, EGR valves, and so on) are equipped and that they operate as intended. Is it there, and does it work as intended. That's the first part.

The second part of the test, at least in California (and Maryland, where I am) is the exhaust emissions test. It's always been performed using a tailpipe probe in the exhaust stream. Bear in mind it's been over 20 years since I worked as a technician, but I have to have my vehicles inspected every couple of years, even though they're new vehicles (going on 5 years old at this point) and the process is basically the same. The only difference is that California does a dyno type test; at idle, and at 2,500 rpm. Maryland only does the idle emissions.

So, it's entirely possible that they did the first part of the test, found some missing equipment, which they required the firefighters to fix. They even say so in the report. Which is asinine.

But to say that no emissions test was performed is, at best, disingenuous. To me, it's a flat-out lie.

What's worse is that every. single. day, thousands of cars, pickups, and OTR trucks stream across the border with some of the most unsafe, most polluting vehicles outside of China, and no one has ever said "boo" to the Mexican government about it.

Given the left's hatred of we the people and their favoritism toward their pets, I can't imagine anything has changed in the last 25 years.
 

Tech

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Strap in; this will piss you off. This started on my FB page. Read the article first. Don't worry; it's not very long.


Ready?

Here is my response:


Note that for some reason, presumably the CHP called "Davis Mobile Equipment" to inspect the out-of-state (again, presumably) fire trucks/equipment.

As a former auto mechanic in California, who performed SMOG inspections for 20 years, to say that "no emissions testing was performed" is a lie.

There are 2 basic parts to a California SMOG inspection: the visual, which checks to see that all the equipment (AIR pumps, EGR valves, and so on) are equipped and that they operate as intended. Is it there, and does it work as intended. That's the first part.

The second part of the test, at least in California (and Maryland, where I am) is the exhaust emissions test. It's always been performed using a tailpipe probe in the exhaust stream. Bear in mind it's been over 20 years since I worked as a technician, but I have to have my vehicles inspected every couple of years, even though they're new vehicles (going on 5 years old at this point) and the process is basically the same. The only difference is that California does a dyno type test; at idle, and at 2,500 rpm. Maryland only does the idle emissions.

So, it's entirely possible that they did the first part of the test, found some missing equipment, which they required the firefighters to fix. They even say so in the report. Which is asinine.

But to say that no emissions test was performed is, at best, disingenuous. To me, it's a flat-out lie.

What's worse is that every. single. day, thousands of cars, pickups, and OTR trucks stream across the border with some of the most unsafe, most polluting vehicles outside of China, and no one has ever said "boo" to the Mexican government about it.

Given the left's hatred of we the people and their favoritism toward their pets, I can't imagine anything has changed in the last 25 years.
Wonder if there is an exhaust requirement for the vehicles used in this terrain like spark arrestor. Don't need new fires. Brake checks be nice, flatlanders in the hills.
 

Gilligan

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You said losing your home isn't fun, and I was just pointing out that the experience differs when you are wealthy enough to have multiple homes, and if the one that was most likely build in the 1950s-1970s and insured for several million dollars burned down that you might have a nice pay-day ahead or a nice NEW property in your future.
IF they had insurance like that. With the pullout of State Farm last year, I wonder how many had little or no insurance?
 
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Clem72

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IF they had insurance like that. With the pullout of State Farm last year, I wonder how many had little or no insurance?
Your average Joe schmoe in California wildfire country may have lost their fire insurance recently. People with coastline Malibu homes can afford the premium insurance. It's not like there is no insurance to be had, it's just expensive. I have family in the area (Riverside and San Bernardino counties) in the absolute worst fire areas and they are still insured. And they ain't millionaires.
 

Hijinx

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Sounds crazy to me. First , what good are more Fire Trucks if there is no water.
Next a community send them fire equipment to help and California worries that it doesn't pass their crazy emissions test while the fires are emitting more smoke and carcinogens than a billion fire trucks would..
 

Sneakers

Just sneakin' around....
California worries that it doesn't pass their crazy emissions test while the fires are emitting more smoke and carcinogens than a billion fire trucks would..
^this.
Who the hell cares about a couple of emissions for the vehicles that could put out your fires that are currently spewing tons and tons and tons of pollutants? They should be given cart-blanche access.
 

GregV814

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I think the sign is made out of steel so it may not burn
if non birthers can have babies, metal can burn....

but can anyone find the chord progression for that song about burning listed above? and what key its in? I think those guys are on drugs....
 

Kyle

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BOP

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Your average Joe schmoe in California wildfire country may have lost their fire insurance recently. People with coastline Malibu homes can afford the premium insurance. It's not like there is no insurance to be had, it's just expensive. I have family in the area (Riverside and San Bernardino counties) in the absolute worst fire areas and they are still insured. And they ain't millionaires.
Yeah, but they're inland, not along the coast.
 

Czar

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Your average Joe schmoe in California wildfire country may have lost their fire insurance recently. People with coastline Malibu homes can afford the premium insurance. It's not like there is no insurance to be had, it's just expensive. I have family in the area (Riverside and San Bernardino counties) in the absolute worst fire areas and they are still insured. And they ain't millionaires.
High fire insurance rates because you live in a hot dry desert? Sucks to be you.
 
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