LA SWAT Accepts First Woman Into Training Program.

itsbob

I bowl overhand
That isn't there SWAT team it's just entering the FBI, back to the books, Boy.

No, YOU mentioned agent Mikeska and to find her "lower standard" to get into the FBI.. did it.

AND to get to the SWAT selection you first have to be a cop on a particular department.. and I would bet THEY have different/ lower standards for women than men throughout the process.

Some of us have lived it, personally I did for 20 years. Luckily the job I did in the Army the differences in physical ability between men and women were recognized, and to this day women are sill not allowed to do it.
 

Ken King

A little rusty but not crusty
PREMO Member
No, YOU mentioned agent Mikeska and to find her "lower standard" to get into the FBI.. did it.
And she passed the exact same training course that male FBI agents must pass even with her less stringent entrance requirements. Doesn't this show that one doesn't have to be over 6 foot and 200 pounds of muscle to make the grade and perform equally with others regardless of gender?

AND to get to the SWAT selection you first have to be a cop on a particular department.. and I would bet THEY have different/ lower standards for women than men throughout the process.
Maybe entry requirements to get on the force, but what we are talking about are the requirements for making the tactical teams. Are there seperate standards?

Some of us have lived it, personally I did for 20 years. Luckily the job I did in the Army the differences in physical ability between men and women were recognized, and to this day women are sill not allowed to do it.
Yeah, I bet women would have a tough time walking around and scratching their balls, but I am sure there are some that could be just as proficient as you.


So what about Special Weapons And Tactics makes a woman ineligible when women have successfully completed the training to the same standard?

And what you might be missing is that the LA Chief is changing the standard for all and not just women. So that would mean once again that they are all competing to a single standard. There are two questions, as I see it, one, does the Chief set the standards or do those already on SWAT set the standards; and two, should those making SWAT be the best of the best without regard to gender?
 

itsbob

I bowl overhand
Yeah, I bet women would have a tough time walking around and scratching their balls, but I am sure there are some that could be just as proficient as you.


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I'm glad you are so familiar with my career.

I will concede ONE point.. there are SOME women that maybe able to do the job.. the percentages are low for sure. The standards SHOULD not be changed, and the acceptance should head to head, same standard..

But thanks for making my point, the LA Chief is changing ALL the standards (do you really think the chief is going to make it harder!?)

Everyone gets scored on the same criteria, requirments, and you are selected by how you stack up to everyone else. If you are female and place 12th, and there are 10 openings you don't get the job, JUST as a male that places 12th won't either. NO extra points for gender or race..
 

Ken King

A little rusty but not crusty
PREMO Member
I'm glad you are so familiar with my career.
So I guess I got it right, huh? :biggrin:

I will concede ONE point.. there are SOME women that maybe able to do the job.. the percentages are low for sure. The standards SHOULD not be changed, and the acceptance should head to head, same standard..
Yes, there are some that can cut the mustard and if they seek out the position and qualify they should get the position.

But thanks for making my point, the LA Chief is changing ALL the standards (do you really think the chief is going to make it harder!?)
Do they need to be harder? It's the Chief's job to set the standards, easier, harder, or no change, it's his call.

Everyone gets scored on the same criteria, requirments, and you are selected by how you stack up to everyone else. If you are female and place 12th, and there are 10 openings you don't get the job, JUST as a male that places 12th won't either. NO extra points for gender or race..
As it should be and what I have been saying, the best qualified gets the job.
 
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