Liberation Day May 1st 2020

[Goldenhawk]

A report (anonymously quoting classified US documents) popped recently that in China, something approaching 21 million people died from the coronavirus. It's partly based on the known cancellation of millions of Chinese cell phone and landline accounts. 21 million is about 1.5% of their population. Quite a believable number in my view, given that US stats with excellent health care are around 3% mortality rate. So if we assume marginal Chinese healthcare (especially when the system gets swamped by cases), that could happen with as little as 10-20% of the population getting infected.

I can't believe for a second that this is just the media. If it were, we'd be different somehow than the rest of the world. But every statistic I've seen so far says that we're pretty much even with every other large nation out there, in terms of infection rates per capita, hospitalization rates per infection, death rate per infection, etc.

I get it - nobody wants to believe that things are dangerous and deadly, and nobody wants to believe that life as you knew it is on hold if not permanently changed. But at some point, facts and data are facts and data, and all the political accusations don't mean squat. There are people legitimately trying to keep you safe. Let's help them do it.

 

[Goldenhawk]

I never said the virus didn't exist. This virus, aka flu, was pushed by the media to destroy the U.S. economy. It's another attack on Trump. They pushed fear into your life. You got scammed.

Okay, so ignore the US media entirely. I do. I pay zero attention to NBC, CBS, ABC, Fox News, you name it. I search stuff out worldwide and from multiple sources.

And based on worldwide reporting and raw data, we're no different than any other nation. Not different in our national reponse, not different in our infection and death rates.

Believe what YOU want, but it won't change raw facts.

 

[sportsfan]

May 1st is too late - can we make it April 15th?

If the word can be spread...

 

[sportsfan]

A report (anonymously quoting classified US documents) popped recently that in China, something approaching 21 million people died from the coronavirus. It's partly based on the known cancellation of millions of Chinese cell phone and landline accounts. 21 million is about 1.5% of their population. Quite a believable number in my view, given that US stats with excellent health care are around 3% mortality rate. So if we assume marginal Chinese healthcare (especially when the system gets swamped by cases), that could happen with as little as 10-20% of the population getting infected.

I can't believe for a second that this is just the media. If it were, we'd be different somehow than the rest of the world. But every statistic I've seen so far says that we're pretty much even with every other large nation out there, in terms of infection rates per capita, hospitalization rates per infection, death rate per infection, etc.

I get it - nobody wants to believe that things are dangerous and deadly, and nobody wants to believe that life as you knew it is on hold if not permanently changed. But at some point, facts and data are facts and data, and all the political accusations don't mean squat. There are people legitimately trying to keep you safe. Let's help them do it.

A report, anonymously classified, is all hear say.. If you believe anything that China says, more power to you.

 

[Goldenhawk]

A report, anonymously classified, is all hear say.. If you believe anything that China says, more power to you.

I think the point is that I do NOT believe what China says. Some "80,000 cases" officially in a country of 1.4 billion? No way. I doubt 20 million dead, but it's sure higher than the 3000-4000 they're reporting.

 

[GURPS]

.... something approaching 21 million people died from the coronavirus.

well that jives with 20 some million cell phones / phone lines going dead in the past few months

 

[Merlin99]

Ran a calculation, 1 of every 588 Americans (that the medical establishments knows of) is or has been infected by this thing.
The more densely packed the heard, the higher the rate of transmission.

Probably going to end up being about 20% of the US getting it by the end of the year with 60% not noticing and 35% being about as bad as the flu and the remaining 5% having a serious issue. If I’m wrong it’s probably going to be on the low side of the total numbers.

 

[Goldenhawk]

Probably going to end up being about 20% of the US getting it by the end of the year with 60% not noticing and 35% being about as bad as the flu and the remaining 5% having a serious issue. If I’m wrong it’s probably going to be on the low side of the total numbers.

I think that's pretty much in line with international averages.

 

[LightRoasted]

"Con job..." Sorry, I don't share your view. If it were just the US, you might be believable. But seeing how this virus has affected literally every single nation, no matter their politics, and frankly started in a communist nation, I think you're ranting without any support.

If you're bothered by (if you get infected) a 1-in-33 chance of dying from coronavirus, a 25 percent chance of serious hospitalization, or a 1-in-7 chance of your elderly relatives dying, you'd be better off ranting at other people who aren't following social/physical distancing guidelines. You can't fix the politics, so improve the odds for your own selves and family.

This corona virus isn't a hoax, the response is the hoax. This is nothing but an annual flu. Globally, again GLOBALLY, total "covid-19" cases, (of course depending on how the tests were done and if you can trust the reporting hospitals and countries), are 1,924,663! Out of what? 7,500,000,000! 7.5 Billion people! JHFC! Total deaths 119,691 out of 7,500,000,000 people. Again JHFC! Get an effing clue woman!

I''m going to be nice. Here's an effing clue.

Writing in The Lancet on March 31st, RNA virus researcher Gregory Poland summed-up the conditions aggravating the COVID-19 situation globally: "We have an increasingly older age demographic across virtually all countries, as well as unprecedented rates of obesity, smoking, diabetes, and heart and lung disease, and an ever-growing population of people who are immunocompromised—all comorbidities that lead to significantly higher risks of severe disease and death from coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19)."

And Drs. David S. Ludwig and Richard Malley of Boston Children's Hospital wrote in The New York Times on March 30th that Americans' risk from the virus is compounded by the fact that they are generally "too diseased."

"The huge burden of obesity and other chronic conditions among Americans puts most of us at direct risk," they wrote. "In fact, with obesity rates in the United States much higher than affected countries like South Korea and China, our outcomes — economic- and health-wise — could be much worse." -ZD.net

Just like from any annual flu, the same class of people die. Croak. On to the afterlife. Meet their maker. Do yourself a favor. Stop listening to the media and government shills. The whole thing is bullshit! Educate yourself.

 

[GregV814]

This corona virus isn't a hoax, the response is the hoax. This is nothing but an annual flu. Globally, again GLOBALLY, total "covid-19" cases, (of course depending on how the tests were done and if you can trust the reporting hospitals and countries), are 1,924,663! Out of what? 7,500,000,000! 7.5 Billion people! JHFC! Total deaths 119,691 out of 7,500,000,000 people. Again JHFC! Get an effing clue woman!

I''m going to be nice. Here's an effing clue.

Writing in The Lancet on March 31st, RNA virus researcher Gregory Poland summed-up the conditions aggravating the COVID-19 situation globally: "We have an increasingly older age demographic across virtually all countries, as well as unprecedented rates of obesity, smoking, diabetes, and heart and lung disease, and an ever-growing population of people who are immunocompromised—all comorbidities that lead to significantly higher risks of severe disease and death from coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19)."

And Drs. David S. Ludwig and Richard Malley of Boston Children's Hospital wrote in The New York Times on March 30th that Americans' risk from the virus is compounded by the fact that they are generally "too diseased."

"The huge burden of obesity and other chronic conditions among Americans puts most of us at direct risk," they wrote. "In fact, with obesity rates in the United States much higher than affected countries like South Korea and China, our outcomes — economic- and health-wise — could be much worse." -ZD.net

Just like from any annual flu, the same class of people die. Croak. On to the afterlife. Meet their maker. Do yourself a favor. Stop listening to the media and government shills. The whole thing is bullshit! Educate yourself.

Lightly, I dont normally agree with you and thats okay. ON THIS TOPICAL POST YOU ARE 100% Correct

 

[DaSDGuy]

Liberation Day May 1st. Where all businesses, churches, and others who have been illegally shutdown, Constitutional rights taken away, take matter into their own hands and reopen their store with safe practices.

Hogan and s tate government have no plans to reopen the state economy any time soon.

Spread the word.

#LiberationDay

Just be sure to wear your antifa masks

 

[SamSpade]

They can't arrest us all. And something about hanging together or we'll surely hang separately....

Years ago, at one of the college campuses I was on - they had a weed smoke-out. Dozens - maybe 100 - of students gathered together and lit up together as a group and the only law enforcement was campus security. That's exactly the response they had - dammit there's just five of us and 100 stoned kids. I hate that they have the balls to do this, but we can't do anything.

That was 1980. I fully believe that cops today would have no problem just grabbing a token protester.

 

[SamSpade]

A report (anonymously quoting classified US documents) popped recently that in China, something approaching 21 million people died from the coronavirus. It's partly based on the known cancellation of millions of Chinese cell phone and landline accounts. 21 million is about 1.5% of their population. Quite a believable number in my view, given that US stats with excellent health care are around 3% mortality rate.

You DO know that mortailty rate is based on deaths per infection, right? To apply a 1.5% mortality rate against the entire population of China can only yield 21 million deaths if EVERY SINGLE PERSON in China is infected.

On the other hand if 10 million are infected you're talking about 150,000 dead.

I find it unbelievable that any nation could lose 21 million people to a disease in just a few months - and the news hasn't gotten out. That's impossible.

Lastly - there is very strong evidence to show the U.S. mortality rate is MUCH smaller because we don't have any idea how many have had the virus but are asymptomatic. We're finding more evidence that some people had it already and have recovered. Some estimates put it below 1%.

 

[BernieP]

In China cell phones going dark might mean you were arrested or are being detained for speaking out.
The PRC could have just shut them down. Trust no report coming out of China. Our media loves to spin the news to favor the PRC, because after all they are much better human beings than Trump. When regimes like the USSR or the PRC want to silence critics, they have no problem murdering a few million of their own citizens to keep the sheep in order.

 

[sportsfan]

North Carolina is now arresting protestors who are protesting the states lockdown. The time is now people.

 

[mitzi]

I nominate you and a few others to organize a protest in Annapolis. Anxious to see who steps up. What's the old saying "Put your money where your mouth is"?

'A slap in the face': Furious Michiganders are planning to protest their governor's travel crackdowns in the state capital

On social media and in nearly 1,200 emails to Insider, Michigan residents expressed anger at every aspect of the governor's executive order.

news.yahoo.com

 

[itsbob]

A report (anonymously quoting classified US documents) popped recently that in China, something approaching 21 million people died from the coronavirus. It's partly based on the known cancellation of millions of Chinese cell phone and landline accounts. 21 million is about 1.5% of their population. Quite a believable number in my view, given that US stats with excellent health care are around 3% mortality rate. So if we assume marginal Chinese healthcare (especially when the system gets swamped by cases), that could happen with as little as 10-20% of the population getting infected.

I can't believe for a second that this is just the media. If it were, we'd be different somehow than the rest of the world. But every statistic I've seen so far says that we're pretty much even with every other large nation out there, in terms of infection rates per capita, hospitalization rates per infection, death rate per infection, etc.

I get it - nobody wants to believe that things are dangerous and deadly, and nobody wants to believe that life as you knew it is on hold if not permanently changed. But at some point, facts and data are facts and data, and all the political accusations don't mean squat. There are people legitimately trying to keep you safe. Let's help them do it.

So why pay attention to the government at this point??

Let's just reopen all the mom and pop, and non-essential shops on our own, and get back to work, and get back to making our economy work.

 

[itsbob]

I nominate you and a few others to organize a protest in Annapolis. Anxious to see who steps up. What's the old saying "Put your money where your mouth is"?

'A slap in the face': Furious Michiganders are planning to protest their governor's travel crackdowns in the state capital

On social media and in nearly 1,200 emails to Insider, Michigan residents expressed anger at every aspect of the governor's executive order.

news.yahoo.com

Another governor whose state was totally unprepared, and instead of FIXING the problem punishes her own citizens.

She was incompetent to begin, and getting worse day by day.

 

[Clem72]

well that jives with 20 some million cell phones / phone lines going dead in the past few months

No, it was still only 8k people.

 

[Goldenhawk]

I don't believe the China 21M story is accurate. I never did believe it was fully accurate, but I also very much disbelieve the 83,000 number. It's certainly FAR higher than that.