Light bulb fire hazard

If you think that the only problem with Compact Fluorescent Light Bulbs (CFLs) is safe disposal .... we've got news for you. CFL's can also be a source of health hazard, toxic fumes and a fire hazard. Ask the Rick Jenkins family in Maryland who had their house burned to the ground because they connected a CFL to a dimmer switch.

CFL Hazards
 
I had been updating to CF bulbs, but I think I'm going back to regular bulbs. Just not comfortable with the fire hazard. Now if the cost of LEDS came down, I'd might consider using those instead.
 

Baja28

Obama destroyed America
OK, why can you NOT use CFL in recessed lighting, pot lights, dimmers or track lighting?

I thought dimmers work on a different concept for incandescent bulbs and it just doesn't work with CFL, unless the CFL is equipped to work with dimming, which its labeled as a "dimming bulb". What the varying voltage mess with the ballast?

CFL run cooler and use less power than incandescent bulbs, so why would they be bad in recessed lighting, pot or track lighting? As long as they fit, which is often a problem.

Congress banned incandescent bulbs?? I know there was talk about it, but I still see more incandescent bulbs in the store than CFL.
I know of no reason to not use CFL's in recessed or track lighting. We do it in commercial buildings every day.

Now for the dimmer, it controls the sine wave and simply won't work on a regular CFL. You need a dimming CFL. I see no reason it would cause a fire either.

I believe what happened was the ballast in the OP story simply shorted out. It is a very rare occurance and I believe somone is just trying to start an email chain. I have been a master electrician for almost 20 years and I use CFL's all over my house and will continue to do so.
 
I had been updating to CF bulbs, but I think I'm going back to regular bulbs. Just not comfortable with the fire hazard. Now if the cost of LEDS came down, I'd might consider using those instead.

I agree. I personally witnessed a CFL bulb failure and there was lots of sizzling and smoke and I'm thankful I was there when it happened as I was able to flick off the switch immediately.
 

Baja28

Obama destroyed America
If you think that the only problem with Compact Fluorescent Light Bulbs (CFLs) is safe disposal .... we've got news for you. CFL's can also be a source of health hazard, toxic fumes and a fire hazard. Ask the Rick Jenkins family in Maryland who had their house burned to the ground because they connected a CFL to a dimmer switch.

CFL Hazards
the sky is falling, the sky is falling!! :cds: :cds: :cds: :cds: :cds:
 

Baja28

Obama destroyed America
CFLs are not cooler than an incandescent, try grabbing the base of one after it's been on a while. They need air flow to stay cool, and putting them in a tophat or recessed lighting fixture lets them get too hot and the ballast burns up.
Actually they are much cooler than incandescent. The ballasts are electronic and put out little to no heat.
 

Baja28

Obama destroyed America
If you break a bulb: DO NOT VACUUM! Doing so disperses particles even more and then traps the mercury in your vac bag - possibly to be dispersed each time you use your vacuum after that! Keep children and pets away from the ventilated area for at least 15 minutes so vapors can evaporate. Clean up by hand using disposable materials including disposable rubber gloves and a stiff piece of cardboard to collect the pieces by sweeping them onto the board with damp paper towels. Put pieces and cardboard into a sealed plastic bag.

Read more at Suite101: The Dark Side of Light Bulbs: Educate Yourself on the Dangers of Using the new CFLs The Dark Side of Light Bulbs: Educate Yourself on the Dangers of Using the new CFLs
Not really. They don't contain enough mercury to be harmful. snopes.com: CFL Mercury Light Bulbs
 

Baja28

Obama destroyed America
Everyone should read this. It clears up the myths on CFL's. See, don't be skeered! UL | Compact Fluorescent Lamps

CFLs are one of the products that we regularly test and investigate to specific UL requirements for electrical safety, fire and shock hazards," he said. "Any popping sounds or smoke that a consumer might see when a CFLs burns out means that the bulb's end-of-life mechanism worked as it should have."

Experts also note that many brand-name manufacturers are now incorporating innovative end-of-life mechanisms into CFLs that cause the bulbs to burn out more like the traditional incandescent bulbs.

Finally, consumers should look for the UL Mark on packaging when purchasing CFLs, as the UL Mark means UL engineers have tested representative samples of the product for safety hazards. "If the CFL carries the UL Mark, consumers know that UL has investigated that product to specific safety requirements," he said.

CFLs and mercury
For decades, consumers have heard about potential dangers associated with mercury, a natural element often associated with thermometers and vaccines for children. Today, consumers are again hearing about mercury, but this time related to CFLs.

CFLs contain a small amount of mercury - approximately 5 milligrams - sealed within the glass tubing. To put the amount into perspective, older thermometers contain about 500 milligrams of mercury, the equivalent of 100 CFLs.
 
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Baja28

Obama destroyed America
Ummm... their procedures for clean-up mirror what I posted... non-essentials need to leave the immediate area, leave the room for 15 minutes or more before clean-up, stop all air-flow units (fans, AC, etc.) Are you freakin' Lance...:smack:
Ok now read post 31. Your mercury thermometer contains the same mercury as 100 CFL's (and you put that in your mouth)!! :lol:

And I aint Lance! :mad:
 
I disagree

I do not suggest that you not are a very competent electrican, but I do not believe that this is an isolated incident. I have an outside deck light with just a cover over the bulb, not recessed or any way the heat is trapped. This bulb was installed last summer. My wife and I went out to dinner one night last week and when we came home none of our outside lights were working. I checked CB box and there was a circuit breaker tripped. I reset and all lights came back on except for deck light. I just thought bulb was burned out which I thought was strange as this bulbs are touted to last years. When I when to fixture I noticed plastic windows in the housing were melted. I turned off switch and went to replace bulb, when I took it out the coiled glass was all melted and charred at bottom and a hole was burned in side of base. I believe it had to get quite hot to melt the glass and base of bulb as well as lamp fixture. Of course I am not putting same type bulb back in fixture and am questioning wisdom of keeping other ones I have replaced with CFL's. I think that China made products do not even meet the minimun standards of safety. At rhe very least a fuse device in bulb as to blow when excessive current is there. "URL Marking are of course a joke"

I know of no reason to not use CFL's in recessed or track lighting. We do it in commercial buildings every day.

Now for the dimmer, it controls the sine wave and simply won't work on a regular CFL. You need a dimming CFL. I see no reason it would cause a fire either.

I believe what happened was the ballast in the OP story simply shorted out. It is a very rare occurance and I believe somone is just trying to start an email chain. I have been a master electrician for almost 20 years and I use CFL's all over my house and will continue to do so.
 
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