Liquor store next to Westlake High School

slotpuppy

Ass-hole
That's a very frequently traveled road in a very populated area with what would be a convenience store and a liquor store that isn't as difficult to get to (for people in that side of St. Charles) as the other nearby shopping centers. That one over by Food Lion - trying to get there is so convoluted. And when traffic's heavy, trying to get anywhere in that shopping center across from the mall can drive a sane man mad.

I live over there and have no problem getting into dash in and food lion. The 7-11 can only be accessed if you are heading toward middletown, if you are heading the other way, it will be a bitch getting in there.
 

DipStick

Keep Calm and Don't Care!
I live over there and have no problem getting into dash in and food lion. The 7-11 can only be accessed if you are heading toward middletown, if you are heading the other way, it will be a bitch getting in there.

Walking distance of three schools and on a well traveled route - it's a really good location for a 7-11. The liquor store - not so much. But it is what it is.
 

DipStick

Keep Calm and Don't Care!
But it is hard for you to digest which means you have a moral issue with it, yet you have no moral issue with legalizing dope.

I can sit here all day long and talk about the immorality of drugs and prostitution and homosexuality. But I don't think the government should be in the business of outlawing such things just because it makes me feel better.
 

slotpuppy

Ass-hole
Walking distance of three schools and on a well traveled route - it's a really good location for a 7-11. The liquor store - not so much. But it is what it is.

But 2 of those 3 schools are closer to dash-in and another liquor store. Most of their traffic will be the morning commuters going to DC. Not much else of they way of traffic there.
 

DipStick

Keep Calm and Don't Care!
But 2 of those 3 schools are closer to dash-in and another liquor store. Most of their traffic will be the morning commuters going to DC. Not much else of they way of traffic there.

Is there an entrance to this shopping center on Middletown? I ask because I honestly don't know. I'd say there's more than just people going to DC. Middletown Road was one of my favorite "Avoid 301" routes.
 

slotpuppy

Ass-hole
Is there an entrance to this shopping center on Middletown? I ask because I honestly don't know. I'd say there's more than just people going to DC. Middletown Road was one of my favorite "Avoid 301" routes.

There is an entrance if you are goin down middletown towards 228. If you are coming the other direction, you would have to make a U-turn to get into the shopping center.
 

DipStick

Keep Calm and Don't Care!
I agree, kids will probably be cutting class for a Slurpee and a Big Bite but I also think it's great for the people that live around there. Hopefully there will be a truancy officer (or whatever their title is) stopping in periodically to send those lil suckers back to school.

If there's donuts and coffee, I'm sure they won't have any problem getting police officers to "stop by" :whistle:

I don't think people should be raging over it, my opinion. And if they screw up and allow children to buy alcohol then they should be in trouble/shut down/etc.

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I live over there and have no problem getting into dash in and food lion. The 7-11 can only be accessed if you are heading toward middletown, if you are heading the other way, it will be a bitch getting in there.

We're not the only people over that way. Maybe some would prefer the U-turn rather than going all the way down the road to Angelo's or to 301 from Billingsly, or whatever that road is.

If there's donuts and coffee, I'm sure they won't have any problem getting police officers to "stop by" :whistle:


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I didn't say people wouldn't bitch about it, I said they shouldn't...in my opinion.

And as far as the donuts and coffee goes, hell I'd stop on my way to work if I went the back way :yay:
 

slotpuppy

Ass-hole
We're not the only people over that way. Maybe some would prefer the U-turn rather than going all the way down the road to Angelo's or to 301 from Billingsly, or whatever that road is.

The handler and I ride bikes down that road a lot. There is not much traffic on the road unless it is rush hour. I can see enough traffic to keep the 7-11 going but not enough people to support that whole damn strip mall.
 

officeguy

Well-Known Member
There are three liquor stores within a mile of each other and we already have half empty strip malls in the area, the location was stupid.

The location is great. Middletown collects a lot of commuter traffic towards 228 in the morning. There is no gas station on that side of the road from that area until Accokeek. The 7-11 will see good business from the commuters. Also, lots of neighborhoods around there, this was built on a 'neighborhood commercial' parcel and represents exactly the kind of business they are intended for.

Now for the liquor store. MD is very liberal in their licensing of liquor stores ('the free state'). In many other states, there are stand-offs between liquor stores and schools, often 1/2 a mile (because they know that students are lazy). Other states also restrict the density of liquor licenses to x/10,000 residents and requires individual stores to be at least one mile from each other. MD doesn't do that, and you can have a place like Bryans Road where 3 out of the 4 corners of an intersection are opccupied by liquor stores.

If the application for the permit had all the right pieces of paper and fees attached and it fulfills the letter of the law, the board of liquor control has no latitude to disallow it (unless they want to spend their budget on litigation with the business owner).
 
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The handler and I ride bikes down that road a lot. There is not much traffic on the road unless it is rush hour. I can see enough traffic to keep the 7-11 going but not enough people to support that whole damn strip mall.

Okay, so why does it matter that it's there? What else is going in the strip mall, do you know? And there's lots of houses down that road so maybe it's worth it to them...? Who knows.
 

Lurk

Happy Creepy Ass Cracka
It's a tough one to swallow, but they're in full compliance with the law. People are raging about it over on Ken Robinson's Facebook.

Fact is, the Board of License Commissioners has to grant their permit. They have laws they have to obey. You can't just deny permits and licenses because you don't like something. Though I imagine this shop will face extra scrutiny from law enforcement and won't be given much leeway if they screw up.

Surprisingly you are in error once again. The liquor board has a lot of experience denying licenses to applicants based on the number of licenses they have available to grant in certain areas of the county. Keep batting, kid. One day you might even get a foul tip.
 

Lurk

Happy Creepy Ass Cracka
I agree, kids will probably be cutting class for a Slurpee and a Big Bite but I also think it's great for the people that live around there. Hopefully there will be a truancy officer (or whatever their title is) stopping in periodically to send those lil suckers back to school.

Since this is Westlake, I would be more worried the student body (or a significant part of the student body) will do a Flash Mob on the liquor store expecially on Juneteenth.
 

slotpuppy

Ass-hole
Okay, so why does it matter that it's there? What else is going in the strip mall, do you know? And there's lots of houses down that road so maybe it's worth it to them...? Who knows.

Its just getting old that everywhere you go in waldorf now is a another damn strip mall. Do you really think we need that one too? I agree that the 7-11 would be nice for commuters but not that whole strip mall, its just an eyesore.
 

Lurk

Happy Creepy Ass Cracka
I haven't seen the Charles County Board of License Commissioners do this. I've sat there and watched them scold people for hours about how much they really don't like something but say they are compelled by law to approve the permits.

That's limited to cases that make it to the board meeting, right? How many applications don't get that far? You're a crack cub reporter so finding out the whole truth might be kinda easy, right?
 

MJ

Material Girl
PREMO Member
We never tried to buy from the liquor store, we just stole it from our parents. :ohwell:
 
Since this is Westlake, I would be more worried the student body (or a significant part of the student body) will do a Flash Mob on the liquor store expecially on Juneteenth.

You think they'll go in a rob the store? I mean.....I guess they could but that could happen anywhere. I guess I just don't see the big deal in it being there. It's a convenience to some, you know...of legal drinking age :yay:

Its just getting old that everywhere you go in waldorf now is a another damn strip mall. Do you really think we need that one too? I agree that the 7-11 would be nice for commuters but not that whole strip mall, its just an eyesore.

Depends, what's going in the strip mall? And if you don't want to see it, don't drive down that road...dur :lol:
 

Lurk

Happy Creepy Ass Cracka
Its just getting old that everywhere you go in waldorf now is a another damn strip mall. Do you really think we need that one too? I agree that the 7-11 would be nice for commuters but not that whole strip mall, its just an eyesore.

This is all in line with the Donk county commissioners' desire to keep the landed gentry free from hassle. By keeping all the businesses and traffic in the development zones, the rich can be free from the hoi polloi.
 
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