Lockdowns - Compton/Dynard/Chaptico

[kris31280]

Gay or not, there is no doubt in my mind that there were some sort of peer issues going on in this young man's life. People don't just wake up one day and decide to end their life.

You know that book we read earlier this year "Thirteen Reasons Why" has been thought of as one that should be required reading (and has in some schools) to open up the discussion on suicide. I'm mixed about it though.


Thoughts and prayers to the friends and family of this young man.

It was a good book, but I'm not sure I'd make it required reading to an age group that's already prone to overdramatic behavior, because what that girl did really was over the top. It's good because it shows how one small action on the part of someone can create a huge snowball effect, though.

Please explain why being gay makes it a bigger tragedy.

Not being gay, but him being openly gay and being persecuted for it. It's actually one of the bigger issues facing gay youth, and gay youth have a higher sucide rate than youth in general. But this thread isn't the time nor place for anyone to get up on their soap box.

 

[Black-Francis]

Not trying to start rumors.

really? Then what exactly was your post?

 

[Dye Tied]

Not being gay, but him being openly gay and being persecuted for it. It's actually one of the bigger issues facing gay youth, and gay youth have a higher sucide rate than youth in general. But this thread isn't the time nor place for anyone to get up on their soap box.

That does not make this any worse than ANYONE losing a child, straight, gay or any reason.

You were the one that said his death was greater. I am not on a soapbox but nicely asked you why it was worse than last weeks tragedy.

 

[kris31280]

That does not make this any worse than ANYONE losing a child, straight, gay or any reason.

You were the one that said his death was greater. I am not on a soapbox but nicely asked you why it was worse than last weeks tragedy.

Because no one could've prevented last week's tragedy. The family tried to tell him so many ways that he was loved, wanted, needed, to please come home. Last week's tragedy was fueled by a boy who had lost all hope. This week's tragedy (if it's true about the gay thing) was fueled by the hate and discontent of his peers and the parents who reinforced the beliefs, as well as his parent's reluctance to accept their child for who he is instead of who they wanted him to be.

They're both tragedies. They're both precious young lives lost. I just feel that one which could've been prevented by understanding instead of hating is a greater tragedy.

 

[95blkgst]

Suicide is a cop out.... I dont feel sorry for anyone that commits Suicide. It's selfish.

One person takes there lives and it causes a bunch of their families to suffer. Pointless.

 

[hotmomma]

really? Then what exactly was your post?

Pete asked a question and I gave him an answer

 

[deino2002]

Irreguardless of this young mans sexual preferences, he chose to take his own life. It may or may not of had to do with his preference or it may of had to do with something else. Unless you were involved in this young mans life personally, you don't really know what his reasonings were. But whatever they were he felt that he could not live anymore and chose to end his life.

Thoughts & prayers are with this young mans family & friends

 

[kwillia]

Suicide is a cop out.... I dont feel sorry for anyone that commits Suicide. It's selfish.

One person takes there lives and it causes a bunch of their families to suffer. Pointless.

I too see it as a completely selfish act, but I don't see it as pointless because it stops the pain and suffering of the one who didn't see any other out.

 

[Baja28]

If that's true, that's an even bigger tragedy
Prayers, good wishes, positive thoughts, and much love and support to the family of this boy.

When your kid gets older and after seeing your posts and pics of you painted up like a circus clown, offs himself, and a gay kid does the same thing, will you still say the gay kids death is a bigger tragedy than your kids?

 

[Baja28]

Hey Kris's kid.....

Because no one could've prevented last week's tragedy. The family tried to tell him so many ways that he was loved, wanted, needed, to please come home. Last week's tragedy was fueled by a boy who had lost all hope. This week's tragedy (if it's true about the gay thing) was fueled by the hate and discontent of his peers and the parents who reinforced the beliefs, as well as his parent's reluctance to accept their child for who he is instead of who they wanted him to be.

They're both tragedies. They're both precious young lives lost. I just feel that one which could've been prevented by understanding instead of hating is a greater tragedy.

...sorry pal but this is your mother. I know you didn't pick her but she's all yours.

See, she totally blew off the straight kid in favor of the gay kid.

Ask her why she thinks the straight kids life was worth less and couldn't have been prevented.

Ask her if the gay kids family told him he was loved, wanted, needed and to please come home.

:hint: She's a moron.

I feel for ya pal and I hope you turn out better.

 

[libertytyranny]

There is never a "reason" for suicide. They can write as many lists as they want. Someone that is capable of killing themselves is a mentally ill individual..and all they need is a trigger. Teens all go through the same things..only the mentally ill kill themselves.

And in my time working in the mental unit..many gay teens did try to commit suicide, but most of them felt conflicted in their own mind. None that I can remember wanted to kill themselves because they were teased or felt "hated"....they were conflicted and unhappy..with themselves. It isn't fair to blame someone's suicide on another person..it just isn't the case. For some reason no one wants to say...oh that person killed themselves because they are sick..they always want to blame it on something.


That being said. I am so saddened by these young people's deaths...because with proper help and coping skills they could have learned to deal with life, and led happy healthy ones...I really feel for their families and I pray that none of them blame themselves...that is a burden that should not be placed on anyone.

 

[migtig]

When your kids gets older and after seeing your posts and pics of you painted up like a circus clown, offs himself, and a gay kids does the same thing, will you still say the gay kids death is a bigger tragedy than your kids?

That was rude and uncalled for. I think Kris choose the wrong words but I understand her intent, and if you take a step back you will as well. However, to come back with something so nasty and hurtful is not just rude, it's cruel...to everyone.

I hope all of you back off each other, and just express your condolences to the family and stop making it about your petty selves and your reactions. Let's stop and think of this young man's family and friends and not resort to ugliness of any kind. That includes presuming anything about his life.

My thoughts and prayers are with this young man's family and friends.

 

[RoseRed]

Because no one could've prevented last week's tragedy. The family tried to tell him so many ways that he was loved, wanted, needed, to please come home. Last week's tragedy was fueled by a boy who had lost all hope. This week's tragedy (if it's true about the gay thing) was fueled by the hate and discontent of his peers and the parents who reinforced the beliefs, as well as his parent's reluctance to accept their child for who he is instead of who they wanted him to be.
They're both tragedies. They're both precious young lives lost. I just feel that one which could've been prevented by understanding instead of hating is a greater tragedy.

Is this true or pure speculation?

 

[toppick08]

Because no one could've prevented last week's tragedy. The family tried to tell him so many ways that he was loved, wanted, needed, to please come home. Last week's tragedy was fueled by a boy who had lost all hope. This week's tragedy (if it's true about the gay thing) was fueled by the hate and discontent of his peers and the parents who reinforced the beliefs, as well as his parent's reluctance to accept their child for who he is instead of who they wanted him to be.

They're both tragedies. They're both precious young lives lost. I just feel that one which could've been prevented by understanding instead of hating is a greater tragedy.

Hope your momma is doing better......

 

[Baja28]

That was rude and uncalled for. I think Kris choose the wrong words but I understand her intent, and if you take a step back you will as well. However, to come back with something so nasty and hurtful is not just rude, it's cruel...to everyone.

I hope all of you back off each other, and just express your condolences to the family and stop making it about your petty selves and your reactions. Let's stop and think of this young man's family and friends and not resort to ugliness of any kind. That includes presuming anything about his life.

My thoughts and prayers are with this young man's family and friends.

Which was more rude, me pointing out that Kris isn't very smart or Kris insulting the other family who lost a kid a couple weeks before? I vote the latter.

I noticed you didn't admonish Kris for her "rude and uncalled for" post. Her intent was very clear. She thinks gays lives are worth more than straight lives. She's a moron.

 

[kvj21075]

When your kid gets older and after seeing your posts and pics of you painted up like a circus clown, offs himself, and a gay kid does the same thing, will you still say the gay kids death is a bigger tragedy than your kids?

what if her kid ends up gay too?

 

[migtig]

Which was more rude, me pointing out that Kris isn't very smart or Kris insulting the other family who lost a kid a couple weeks before? I vote the latter.

I noticed you didn't admonish Kris for her "rude and uncalled for" post. Her intent was very clear. She thinks gays lives are worth more than straight lives. She's a moron.

By me posting what I did, for Kris, that was enough to admonish her. She knows she sometimes types before thinking. Her word choices reflect that. But that is no reason for you to say her kid offs himself because of her. That is completely wrong and uncalled for and rude and nasty and it is in a thread that the family and friends of this poor kid may see. Think about that. Your comments are much more insensitive. And this thread is not about YOU. This thread isn't about Kris. Gawd, how horrible that you can't even realize that.

 

[kvj21075]

By me posting what I did, for Kris, that was enough to admonish her. She knows she sometimes types before thinking. Her word choices reflect that. But that is no reason for you to say her kid offs himself because of her. That is completely wrong and uncalled for and rude and nasty and it is in a thread that the family and friends of this poor kid may see. Think about that. Your comments are much more insensitive. And this thread is not about YOU. This thread isn't about Kris. Gawd, how horrible that you can't even realize that.

what if the family of the first kid that offed himself sees this?

 

[nachomama]

what if the family of the first kid that offed himself sees this?

They will see just how fricking insensitive you (and a lot of the people on here) are. We already know that some of Adam's family members are on this board, and your choice of words was uncalled for and tacky.

Don't you have a wedding to get ready for or something?

 

[CMC122]

Not being gay, but him being openly gay and being persecuted for it. It's actually one of the bigger issues facing gay youth, and gay youth have a higher sucide rate than youth in general. But this thread isn't the time nor place for anyone to get up on their soap box.

My daughter went to school with this kid and his boyfriend and she said everyone liked them