Malicious Prosecution

tblwdc

New Member
Being that there was no evidence that Officer Nero did anything wrong, I hope some attorney sues the prosecutor's office for malicious prosecution. This was a political trial to begin with and the judge saw through that miscarriage of justice.
 

officeguy

Well-Known Member
If you read Judge Williams decision, he simply said that the state failed to prove all elements of the charged crimes beyond a reasonable doubt. While I fully agree that this was a malicious prosecution, I doubt that the elements of that crime could be proven in this case. The SA also has the grand jury to hide behind.
 
When a person's neck breaks from his head banging against protruding metal in the back of a police paddy wagon it is logical and reasonable to hold a trial to determine if one or more of the police responsible for cuffing him and placing him in the back without securing him were criminally negligent.

In the case of the arresting officer the verdict was not guilty because their was no evidence found where he directly contributed to Freddie's death. The mitigating circumstances and level of involvement with the fatal ride will be different for each officer. One or more being found not-guilty does not imply that all are not guilty. The trials must go on.
 

tblwdc

New Member
If you read Judge Williams decision, he simply said that the state failed to prove all elements of the charged crimes beyond a reasonable doubt. While I fully agree that this was a malicious prosecution, I doubt that the elements of that crime could be proven in this case. The SA also has the grand jury to hide behind.

Two things wrong. First, malicious prosecution is a civil matter and not a criminal one, therefore there are no "elements" of the crime. Second, they charged first in district court (no grand jury) then filed a criminal information (again, no grand jury) to bring the case to circuit court.
 

tblwdc

New Member
When a person's neck breaks from his head banging against protruding metal in the back of a police paddy wagon it is logical and reasonable to hold a trial to determine if one or more of the police responsible for cuffing him and placing him in the back without securing him were criminally negligent.

In the case of the arresting officer the verdict was not guilty because their was no evidence found where he directly contributed to Freddie's death. The mitigating circumstances and level of involvement with the fatal ride will be different for each officer. One or more being found not-guilty does not imply that all are not guilty. The trials must go on.

I agree. The problem is that he never was the arresting officer. At no time did anyone ever say he was. They charged him with second degree assault. There was never any basis for that charge.
 

Midnightrider

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When a person's neck breaks from his head banging against protruding metal in the back of a police paddy wagon it is logical and reasonable to hold a trial to determine if one or more of the police responsible for cuffing him and placing him in the back without securing him were criminally negligent.

In the case of the arresting officer the verdict was not guilty because their was no evidence found where he directly contributed to Freddie's death. The mitigating circumstances and level of involvement with the fatal ride will be different for each officer. One or more being found not-guilty does not imply that all are not guilty. The trials must go on.

not to mention that people get charge and tried all the time and are ultimately found innocent. that does not mean the prosecution was malicious, it just means the case was not proven.
 

tblwdc

New Member
not to mention that people get charge and tried all the time and are ultimately found innocent. that does not mean the prosecution was malicious, it just means the case was not proven.

This isn't just about someone being tried and acquitted. This is about a person who the prosecution NEVER had any evidence that he committed a crime, but charged him because it was politically advantages to do so. People also sue and win for malicious prosecution all the time.

Do you believe this prosecution was not malicious?
 

Midnightrider

Well-Known Member
This isn't just about someone being tried and acquitted. This is about a person who the prosecution NEVER had any evidence that he committed a crime, but charged him because it was politically advantages to do so. People also sue and win for malicious prosecution all the time.

Do you believe this prosecution was not malicious?

not any more malicious than the multitudes of other crimes that get prosecuted everyday with no evidence. The fact of the matter is that a guy died in police custody, it is not unreasonable for the officers to face the music over it.
 

tblwdc

New Member
not any more malicious than the multitudes of other crimes that get prosecuted everyday with no evidence. The fact of the matter is that a guy died in police custody, it is not unreasonable for the officers to face the music over it.

What exactly is it that Officer Nero did that he should face the music over?
 

vraiblonde

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Marilyn Mosby and Stephanie Blake both need to be removed from their office, if not jailed. They are a disgrace to Baltimore, and a disgrace to Black people in general. If some white mayor and AttyGen had done what they have done for their race mates, the screaming would be deafening.

They are both race whores and an embarrassment.
 

KevinSully

New Member
Being that there was no evidence that Officer Nero did anything wrong, I hope some attorney sues the prosecutor's office for malicious prosecution. This was a political trial to begin with and the judge saw through that miscarriage of justice.

It is my opinion that the burden of proof for a malicious prosecution action against a sitting prosecutor is quite high, but I believe this case might have some merit as the prosecution is required to determine proprietorial merit of each case. Based on all we have heard in Nero's case, just Nero's case, it doesn't seem they did that.
 

Chris0nllyn

Well-Known Member
Marilyn Mosby and Stephanie Blake both need to be removed from their office, if not jailed. They are a disgrace to Baltimore, and a disgrace to Black people in general. If some white mayor and AttyGen had done what they have done for their race mates, the screaming would be deafening.

They are both race whores and an embarrassment.

This.

Personally, I think they should both fail at their obviously political and social justice crusade. But I think we all know what will happen.

They won't be blamed. They won't be ridiculed (by the residents who elected these two Wendy Williams Show rejects). But the "system" and police will be blamed.
 

tblwdc

New Member
not any more malicious than the multitudes of other crimes that get prosecuted everyday with no evidence. The fact of the matter is that a guy died in police custody, it is not unreasonable for the officers to face the music over it.

Ah the sound of silence. It's easy to say that the cop needs to "face the music"......a little more difficult to come up with what he did wrong to face the music.
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
PREMO Member
Patron
Ah the sound of silence. It's easy to say that the cop needs to "face the music"......a little more difficult to come up with what he did wrong to face the music.

Megyn Kelly had some black activist person on last night and she asked him just that: What did Nero do wrong? He wouldn't answer, he just kept saying that a man died, someone needs to be held responsible, blah blah blah. She kept trying to get him back on track, but he wouldn't budge from the script.

These people are so ignorant they take my breath away. And it's not just black dumbasses, but their white dumbass compatriots as well.
 

Midnightrider

Well-Known Member
Ah the sound of silence. It's easy to say that the cop needs to "face the music"......a little more difficult to come up with what he did wrong to face the music.

:killingme

I never said he did anything wrong, the prosecution did....
The prosecution argued Nero, who joined the force in 2012, did not use proper protocol and lacked legal justification to arrest Gray for failing to have probable cause. Prosecutors said Nero was aware of proper seat belt protocols sent by email from department heads to officers on April 9, 2015, for arrestees, but disregarded them.
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2016...-charges-in-Freddie-Gray-death/8761464011528/

However, i think arresting someone without cause should be enough to have to face the music.
 

Midnightrider

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Chris0nllyn

Well-Known Member
that is the story he told at trial with the benefit of immunity. In any case, i think it is reasonable for there to have been a trial, and the result was reasonable considering the evidence.

Mosby should have known (and probably did) the role Nero played in the arrest of Gray. It should have never went to trial based on the judge's ruling.
 
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