Man Beating Baby Shot And Killed

[AK-74me]

unfortunatly baby died too. What a POS.

Police kill man seen beating child to death - Crime & courts - MSNBC.com

 

[morningbell]

As I type, tears a pouring from my eyes. This guy obviously snapped, was on so much PCP or roid rage that it was over.

The sad part is that we may never know what happened leading to this innocent child's death.

I'm going to go give my child an extra kiss good night while he sleeps now

 

[godsbutterfly]

How horrible. I hope he hurt a lot as he was dying for doing that to that baby.

 

[AK-74me]

It is too bad a passer-by couldn't of ended him before he killed the baby.

But California so, not likely.

 

[backagain39]

Too bad a passer-by didn't have a gun....no jury in the country would have found them guilty for shooting the guy......may he rot in hell....

 

[AK-74me]

Too bad a passer-by didn't have a gun....no jury in the country would have found them guilty for shooting the guy......may he rot in hell....

But did you see what state it was in?

Chance of a passer-by having a gun? Unless they were a criminal? Very, very low.

 

[morningbell]

But did you see what state it was in?

Chance of a passer-by having a gun? Unless they were a criminal? Very, very low.

Enough with the east coast west coast hate, that went out with Tupac and Biggie son!

Regardless of the state what if you had a gun, legally could you shoot the scumbag? I know shoot to kill would be doing tax payers a service but if I had the gun I'd shoot to injure, not kill. I need closure, I'd need to know why he did it and who's baby?

 

[CalifrniaDreamn]

But did you see what state it was in?

Chance of a passer-by having a gun? Unless they were a criminal? Very, very low.

I used to live close to that area. You're not in the liberal area of California there -- very conservative -- very country. And unfortunately, there are a ton of low-life idiots there. I can't tell you how many times I saw kids smacked in the face for something like asking their parents a question. Scary stuff around there. One of the highest unemployment rates in the nation, very low graduation rates for high school, and last year they said the Central Valley of California was worse off than Appalachia. Kind of gives you an idea of what you're dealing with there.

 

[AK-74me]

Enough with the east coast west coast hate, that went out with Tupac and Biggie son!

Regardless of the state what if you had a gun, legally could you shoot the scumbag? I know shoot to kill would be doing tax payers a service but if I had the gun I'd shoot to injure, not kill. I need closure, I'd need to know why he did it and who's baby?

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I am just pointing out that California is a state that is run my liberal politicians and they, like MD are not "Shall issue" which means not many CCW holders there.

Yes, using deadly force is legal in protecting another innocent person's life.

 

[AK-74me]

I used to live close to that area. You're not in the liberal area of California there -- very conservative -- very country. And unfortunately, there are a ton of low-life idiots there. I can't tell you how many times I saw kids smacked in the face for something like asking their parents a question. Scary stuff around there. One of the highest unemployment rates in the nation, very low graduation rates for high school, and last year they said the Central Valley of California was worse off than Appalachia. Kind of gives you an idea of what you're dealing with there.

That maybe, still the fact remains that California law makes it very hard for citizens to protect themselves and other innocents like this baby from POS scumbags like we have in this story.

I'm sure the POS was on meth or something similar.

 

[Geek]

Enough with the east coast west coast hate, that went out with Tupac and Biggie son!

Regardless of the state what if you had a gun, legally could you shoot the scumbag? I know shoot to kill would be doing tax payers a service but if I had the gun I'd shoot to injure, not kill. I need closure, I'd need to know why he did it and who's baby?

I would shoot to kill.

 

[CalifrniaDreamn]

That maybe, still the fact remains that California law makes it very hard for citizens to protect themselves and other innocents like this baby from POS scumbags like we have in this story.

I'm sure the POS was on meth or something similar.

It is the crystal meth capital of the US.... or was a while back.

I looked up the weapons laws in CA, and honestly, it doesn't look like it's too hard to carry a weapon. Here's what I found:

Traveling with Firearms in California - Bureau of Firearms - California Dept. of Justice - Office of the Attorney General

HANDGUNS
California Penal Code section 12025 does not prevent a citizen of the United States over 18 years of age who is not lawfully prohibited from firearm possession, and who resides or is temporarily in California, from transporting by motor vehicle any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person provided the firearm is unloaded and stored in a locked container.

The term "locked container" means a secure container which is fully enclosed and locked by a padlock, key lock, combination lock, or similar locking device. This includes the trunk of a motor vehicle, but does not include the utility or glove compartment. For more information, refer to California Penal Code Section 12026.1.

And if you've got a shotgun it doesn't need to be in a locked container because it's not concealable. So you really can carry a firearm if you want to. It's a big state -- for the most part it's not as liberal as you think.

 

[AK-74me]

It is the crystal meth capital of the US.... or was a while back.

I looked up the weapons laws in CA, and honestly, it doesn't look like it's too hard to carry a weapon. Here's what I found:

Traveling with Firearms in California - Bureau of Firearms - California Dept. of Justice - Office of the Attorney General

HANDGUNS
California Penal Code section 12025 does not prevent a citizen of the United States over 18 years of age who is not lawfully prohibited from firearm possession, and who resides or is temporarily in California, from transporting by motor vehicle any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person provided the firearm is unloaded and stored in a locked container.

The term "locked container" means a secure container which is fully enclosed and locked by a padlock, key lock, combination lock, or similar locking device. This includes the trunk of a motor vehicle, but does not include the utility or glove compartment. For more information, refer to California Penal Code Section 12026.1.

And if you've got a shotgun it doesn't need to be in a locked container because it's not concealable. So you really can carry a firearm if you want to. It's a big state -- for the most part it's not as liberal as you think.

I am talking about carrying a firearm on your person, concealed or open carry. California has both BTW, but like MD they are not a shall issue state and permits are few and far between. Despite what you want to tell me about California, it is a fact that they have some of the most strict gun laws in the US and some of the most liberal policies as a state. Just go and look what they scored on the Brady website.

All I am saying is that because of these laws in states like California, is that it is very unlikely that a passer-by would of had a firearm and able to stop this presumed hopped up Meth head. I hate to go so far into this but I truely feel that citizens have a right to protect themselves and other third parties like was the case here. Courts have already ruled, it is not the cops job to protect you, common sense tells you they can't be everywhere all the time. So that leaves it up to the individual citizen to protect themself.

Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence

Here they are rated #1 by the Brady's, that means bad for gun toting people. Criminals excluded.

 

[CalifrniaDreamn]

I am talking about carrying a firearm on your person, concealed or open carry. California has both BTW, but like MD they are not a shall issue state and permits are few and far between.

Sorry, I am not a gun owner and really didn't understand that you can't carry one there.

 

[MMDad]

I know shoot to kill would be doing tax payers a service but if I had the gun I'd shoot to injure, not kill.

There is no such thing as shoot to injure. Shooting someone is deadly force. If you don't want them to die, you don't shoot.

 

[lovinmaryland]

That is just horrible I swear to god their are some ####ed up people in this world!!!!

 

[Mojo]

I like how they say no one could stop him Even an old man could have pulled a tire iron out of his trunk and beat the hell out of that idiot.

 

[Xaquin44]

clearly if everyone had a loaded weapon on them at all times, no tragedy would ever happen.

 

[SoMDGirl42]

I like how they say no one could stop him Even an old man could have pulled a tire iron out of his trunk and beat the hell out of that idiot.

I wish that had happened. Shooting him probably didn't hurt as bad, last as long and have him suffer as much as what he did to that baby. I only pray the first blow killed the baby and he didn't suffer (but I wish it didn't happen at all, poor, poor baby) with repeated blows. This world is f@#$ed up!

 

[AK-74me]

clearly if everyone had a loaded weapon on them at all times, no tragedy would ever happen.

Clearly you turn a blind eye to all the incidents where people with firearms stop crime everyday. I guess no home owner should own a fire extinqusher either since 99% of peoples homes never catch on fire. Same logic.