Hank
my war
Absolutely amazing that people (here) who did not witness a thing are already screaming that the police are in the wrong and used too much force. UFB!!
Trayvon/Zimmerman.....
Man w/down syndrome dies
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Trayvon/Zimmerman.....
Baja28
Obama destroyed America
There is much more evidence available with the T/Z case. Idiots here read one article with almost no facts and conclude the police were wrong. UFB.Trayvon/Zimmerman.....
Baja28
Obama destroyed America
Hank
my war
Tell us all about your extensive police training.
Detective Penn has binoculars... he can see stuff!
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letmetellyou
Guest
Are you serious? So how do you want the police to handle a person who is kicking and screaming at them? You didn't seem to be guessing earlier. You STATED that the police over reacted without knowing any of the relevant information.
Roman
Active Member
I'm just throwing this out there. If it took three sets of cuffs to subdue him, maybe he was obese, and had an undiagnosed, or underlying medical condition that won't be detected until the autopsy. It takes sometimes, about a month for all the stuff to come back in. Let all the facts come in Chris, before you bash our Men, and Women in blue.
In such a way as to not cause death.
Baja28
Obama destroyed America
You're an idiot and so is anyone else who concludes that the police screwed up with the information given. Keep posting and make yourself look even more stupid.
I basically said as much in my post.
frequentflier
happy to be living
Where was the aide in all of this? If this person was trained properly and was responsible for taking this man into a movie theatre; how did this situation get to the point that it did?
itsrequired
New Member
You are making assumptions, but have no idea what you are talking about! What is it you expect the police to do when first; A business owner calls them and tells them someone won't leave? Then, that person when the police ask him to leave, becomes aggressive and starts to kick and hit them, what would you do?
Baja28
Obama destroyed America
Just like you, I don't have any. Unlike you, I don't profess to. The difference being that I'm not on here making stupid judgements about the case.
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Baja28
Obama destroyed America
He would get on an internet bulletin board and bash the police for not handling it properly.
EVERY individual is different whether they have DS or not. Not every person with DS has "behaivoral" issues either. Something upset the gentleman - we don't know what the antecedent was. Clearly, there communication issues on both sides.
Not enough details.
MMDad
Lem Putt
Something people are forgetting here is that people with DS can have airway issues due to their condition. Maneuvers that would be used on a "normal" person to subdue them could result in positional asphyxiation.
Unless we want cops to call in a doctor and do a complete medical exam prior to restraining someone who is being violent these are the risks we face.
Sure, the cops could be trained in how to handle a DS person. But what's next? They have no way of knowing what medical conditions they may be facing. I can see it now - "excuse me sir, but I must tase you to stop you from beating that helpless person. Please tell me if you have a pacemaker, hypertension, are on any prescription medications, or have ever had an allergic reaction to metal probes being shot into your skin."
The other thing with training - if you don't use it, you lose it. You'd have to continuously train the officers for a situation that most will never see, for the once in a lifetime chance that the training will be needed.
It's a lesson to those who deal with the developmentally disabled - look at the risks and take appropriate action. We need to take responsibility for ourselves and those under our care. It may not have made a difference in this case, but it may save someone in the future.
itsrequired
New Member
So you are guessing that is how it is handled and then condemning police for overreacting without knowing. Okay, I get it.
itsrequired
New Member
That is a pretty flippant statement, but no real substance on how you would handle the situation. Do you have anything real to add?
Sometimes that's not possible.
In the end, this is the aide's fault for not actually aiding their charge.
Baja28
Obama destroyed America
Ed Zachary!!