Margaret Brent School Out of Control?

black dog

Free America
Us normal people sleep during those hours so we can wake up refreshed and return to our jobs between the hours of 7am and 4pm. I'll think of* you while I am working my normal shift and not sweating it out in the wee hours in a dank shop; dreaming of your next childish attempt to get the attention of your forum love bird :love:











*actually I will be laughing

I'm in the office at night dumbdick... Maybe when you grow up you too can work for yourself. But it does come with responsibility... Sometimes that's late night...
Dank Shop? That's your mom's basement,. I have LED lighting in the shop,
Sweat...... That's something that you will never understand, hard work to get ahead.
 

MiddleGround

Well-Known Member
Anthony Weiner is a adult dumbdick... Tell your teacher you need to work on your reading comprehension...

Hey moron, maybe you should go back and re-read what you posted and what you were quoting. Somewhere along the way, your brain was overpowered by those welding fumes and you lost your way. It's ok though, totally understandable from a person with your education and moral standards. When you have small children on the brain like you do, bad things happen. Seek help. Mmm-K :yay:
 

black dog

Free America
Hey moron, maybe you should go back and re-read what you posted and what you were quoting. Somewhere along the way, your brain was overpowered by those welding fumes and you lost your way. It's ok though, totally understandable from a person with your education and moral standards. When you have small children on the brain like you do, bad things happen. Seek help. Mmm-K :yay:

Otay Buckwheat,,, pole smoking break over.... Back to dust moping the hallways.
 

Gilligan

#*! boat!
PREMO Member
Hey moron, maybe you should go back and re-read what you posted and what you were quoting. Somewhere along the way, your brain was overpowered by those welding fumes and you lost your way. It's ok though, totally understandable from a person with your education and moral standards. When you have small children on the brain like you do, bad things happen. Seek help. Mmm-K :yay:

oh. zing.
 

3CATSAILOR

Well-Known Member
It's interesting that in the last few years there's been a focus on bullying and all kinds of attention in trying to stop it....and yet it's actually getting worse.

Why aren't these schools practicing what they preach?

They continue to be in their own little "bubble". The schools will continue to get progressively worse. Private or Charter schools are far better if you have a choice. Try to get out of the public school system sooner rather than later. There has already been one school shooting in a St. Mary's School. I am pretty sure there will be more as the problems in the schools continue.
 

littlelady

God bless the USA
St. Mary's loves rotating their Principals and others as they deem necessary. It keeps the State happy.

My children have been out of public school for some time, now. Grad 2004 and 08. What I find interesting is that my closest friend neighbor while we lived in Calvert for 20 years was a home schooler, and now substitutes in the county schools.
 

3CATSAILOR

Well-Known Member
If I may ...



And there's not a damn thing you, or anyone, can do about it. I mean really, there's is not a damn thing that an be done about it. Nothing. It is a public school ran by teacher's unions. And by principles being paid over $110-150,000 per year, plus benefits, plus a very generous pension. Do you really think they care about your kids? Do you really think they care about some bullying going on? But go ahead, (public in general), and make excuses for the teachers. Oh woe for the poor downtrodden teachers. If any person, in the position as a teacher, that sees any bulling, and does nothing about it, are just as bad as the bully. They hide behind "policies", and the principle and the union instead. Instead of "leaving", those teachers, if they truly cared, would make a stand, and make a stink, and stand with the parents and kids, until changes were made. But that will never happen. Why? Because all parents are brainwashed into supporting, blindly, a failed public school system. And the parents that do make a stand are immediately shut down, marginalized, ridiculed. "Don't you know that teachers and administrators work extremely hard to teach?" They say. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Typical BS teacher support propaganda. Facts are never given. Only emotional innuendos, overtones and intimations that teachers really really care as well as administrators, and the system too, and are just trying to work through hard times.

Wake up people. You have been lied to for so long you think it is the truth.

I used to teach many years ago. I got out of it because I thought teaching was like being a police officer. What you said is very accurate in my opinion. Very nicely said. Not many people realize the truth, or rather have an interest in knowing the truth. They love the "bubble" that they are in at the Board of Education. They certainly don't want anyone to pop it. The new State requirements may "pinch" the bubble a little. I doubt it will do anything to pop it.
 

3CATSAILOR

Well-Known Member
Just curious.... Do you, or have you ever, had kids in school? Were you an involved parent? Or did you just send your kids to school and hope for the best. I ask because your post here seems to be of someone who likes to stand on the sidelines criticizing everyone else instead of being involved and being part of the solution. I was on PTSAs during all levels of my kids' education. Did Booster organizations as well. Chaperoned too many trips to count. Even overnight trips. Developed good working relationships, and even friendships, with several of my kids' teachers. Still keep in touch with them. Hell, my Mom was a teacher for 45 years. Your description regarding teachers is way way off.

What you say is true. However, what Lightroasted has said is also quite accurate. I know. I taught in one of our High Schools. Although it was many years ago, the Unions are stronger now than they ever have been. I know some teachers that continue to teach. I'm not sure why. With that said, I totally agree that "most", not all, but most of the teachers, etc. care deeply about the kids. I did back then and we still do now. However, the problems in our schools are far worse. I see little to no emphasis by the Unions to insist on a better learning environment for the kids. This is where the complaint is that it is really more about money than a concern about children.
 

littlelady

God bless the USA
What you say is true. However, what Lightroasted has said is also quite accurate. I know. I taught in one of our High Schools. Although it was many years ago, the Unions are stronger now than they ever have been. I know some teachers that continue to teach. I'm not sure why. With that said, I totally agree that "most", not all, but most of the teachers, etc. care deeply about the kids. I did back then and we still do now. However, the problems in our schools are far worse. I see little to no emphasis by the Unions to insist on a better learning environment for the kids. This is where the complaint is that it is really more about money than a concern about children.


I like that you gave awpitt some cred. He gets a raw deal here, a lot. I like what he as to say.
 

MischiefManaged

New Member
Educators are not care givers. That's not even remotely in their job description. They do not feed the kids, they are not responsible for their safety, they do not change diapers or potty train or do any of the things child care workers do. They are there to educate, period.
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That is not at all accurate. A teacher's first job is to keep their students safe. There is not a single teacher who wouldn't take a bullet for their kids. And special education and head start teachers are responsible for potty training and diaper changes. That is part of educating. You cannot educate a child if they do not feel safe.
 

Monello

Smarter than the average bear
PREMO Member
I don't have a problem with that, we had it in elementary.
I would go for if you don't want the school to paddle your kid then one of the parents has to show up and paddle the child to the principals satisfaction.
And the child sits in the office until said parent shows up to discipline the child.
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I agree with Vrai, control of the classroom could be achieved very quickly if folks demanded it.
One of the huge problems today with parents, they want to be their children's best friends instead of being parents.

Run the schools like boot camp. Anyone that has had the pleasure of the fine training provided by the US military services will tell you that not 1 person ever gets out of line for very long. As Barney Fife would say, they nip it in the bud. Fast. Say what you want about the military, but they have training down to a science. If you ever wanted to learn a subject or trade, Uncle Sam will do it in the most efficient manner possible.
 

Monello

Smarter than the average bear
PREMO Member
That is not at all accurate. A teacher's first job is to keep their students safe. There is not a single teacher who wouldn't take a bullet for their kids. And special education and head start teachers are responsible for potty training and diaper changes. That is part of educating. You cannot educate a child if they do not feel safe.

I knew a teacher that said she'd leave her kids in the class to fend for themselves if a shooter came in and she had a way to escape harm. So there is at least 1 and I'm sure a lot more with this attitude.
 
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