Mark Spitz = D Bag

thurley42

HY;FR
:killingmeI can't wait until the damn Olympics are over and people go back to talking about sports that matter....

The LLWS is on for Christs sake!
 

thurley42

HY;FR
:killingme which taxpayer subsidized business are you referring to?

Touche....but damnit in a few weeks it will be the greatest time of the year.....College Football, NFL, and MLB Playoffs.....say what you will about the commercialism, it doesn't get any better IMO.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
Why...


...are you being so tough on Spitz? What he has to say in the article is rather fair and polite and, frankly interesting.

As for a factual comparison of how they performed, in context;

The Numbers Guy : Phelps v. Spitz: An Update

Spitz comes out slightly ahead. Bottom line is that they were both AMAZING.

I think it has to be accepted that people like them are going to be arrogant azzhats. That's a given.
 

AK-74me

"Typical White Person"
...are you being so tough on Spitz? What he has to say in the article is rather fair and polite and, frankly interesting.

As for a factual comparison of how they performed, in context;

The Numbers Guy : Phelps v. Spitz: An Update

Spitz comes out slightly ahead. Bottom line is that they were both AMAZING.

I think it has to be accepted that people like them are going to be arrogant azzhats. That's a given.

I saw the interview with him and Phelps and he kept making reference to himself and how he would do instead of being gracious and making all about Phelps.

Certainly an Azzhat.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
For...

I saw the interview with him and Phelps and he kept making reference to himself and how he would do instead of being gracious and making all about Phelps.

Certainly an Azzhat.

...sure he is a jerk. I have no doubt that is why he wasn't invited to be in Beijing for all of this in the first place.

However, I do like people like him, and Phelps for that matter, who will say a little bit more than "I thank God and mom and dad and the stars and the moon and I was just lucky and..."

I enjoy hearing someone who was as dominant as Spitz was who still has that fire, who looks at the puppy and says "You're lucky your weren't around in my day, boy."
 

Rael

Supper's Ready
I'm inclined to think that regardless of how much ego Mark Spitz seems to have, he should have been near the top of the invited list. The Olympics must have surely benefitted from his contribution to the sport. Hell, Spitz WAS the 1972 Olympics, after all.

I think the sport lost a great opportunity by not having him there, IMHO.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
Imagine...

I'm inclined to think that regardless of how much ego Mark Spitz seems to have, he should have been near the top of the invited list. The Olympics must have surely benefitted from his contribution to the sport. Hell, Spitz WAS the 1972 Olympics, after all.

I think the sport lost a great opportunity by not having him there, IMHO.

...how big of an azz he must have been to not be invited?

"I want first class, round trip. I want a seat for each of my medals. I want the whole top floor of the best hotel in town. I want limo's. I want food. I want my azz KISSED! ROYALLY!"

:killingme
 

Rael

Supper's Ready
...how big of an azz he must have been to not be invited?

"I want first class, round trip. I want a seat for each of my medals. I want the whole top floor of the best hotel in town. I want limo's. I want food. I want my azz KISSED! ROYALLY!"

:killingme

Oh, definitely. then, "whattaya mean I wasn't invited?" :faint: :lmao:
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
See...

Oh, definitely. then, "whattaya mean I wasn't invited?" :faint: :lmao:

...this is a big part of the story and no one will touch it. The Olympics doesn't want to get into a discussion about what they do or don't do for this or that old timer. Spitz doesn't want to get too far into why he wasn't invited.

It would be a great story about how the Olympic committees, be it US or the international one, deal with stuff like this and a great story about Mark, Olympic hero, and what he's been doing the last 26 years. What does all that gold translate into for the future? What might Phelps be doing in a decade or three?
 

Rael

Supper's Ready
...this is a big part of the story and no one will touch it. The Olympics doesn't want to get into a discussion about what they do or don't do for this or that old timer. Spitz doesn't want to get too far into why he wasn't invited.

It would be a great story about how the Olympic committees, be it US or the international one, deal with stuff like this and a great story about Mark, Olympic hero, and what he's been doing the last 26 years. What does all that gold translate into for the future? What might Phelps be doing in a decade or three?
One guy I know was talking about this whole Spitz thing (so I won't take credit for his thoughts here) and brought up the point of the sports' responsibility to itself. He made the analogy of Bobby Bond's record against that of Hank Aaron's, saying that someone in the league made that connection for everyone to see, and that baseball was better because of it (despite what anyone thinks of Bonds or if they downplay his record).

I agree with him. Swimming (as a sport), would have been better in the long range had someone formally made that connection and put it out there. Surely they knew Phelps was going to break at least a few of Spitz's records long before the Olympics. I just think they shorted themselves by leaving him out.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
Couldn't agree...

One guy I know was talking about this whole Spitz thing (so I won't take credit for his thoughts here) and brought up the point of the sports' responsibility to itself. He made the analogy of Bobby Bond's record against that of Hank Aaron's, saying that someone in the league made that connection for everyone to see, and that baseball was better because of it (despite what anyone thinks of Bonds or if they downplay his record).

I agree with him. Swimming (as a sport), would have been better in the long range had someone formally made that connection and put it out there. Surely they knew Phelps was going to break at least a few of Spitz's records long before the Olympics. I just think they shorted themselves by leaving him out.

...more and certainly they thought about that. As I say, imagine how big a jerk he probably really was for them to say 'screw him.' :lol:
 
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