Maryland is the worst place to retire

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I was sad to read about Vermont, we'd been considering there, but are looking at either Alabama or New Hampshire.
 
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Yooper

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Could you imagine paying over $12,000 a year, or more, property tax on a tiny house valued under $200,000, in New Jersey?
My lower middle class (while they were working) folks moved down South from New York about 30 years ago. They did quite well selling their almost 40-YO house which helped to ease the pain of living there. In the late 1980s they felt they had to move as their small-out-on-Long-Island-subdivision-home had property taxes of $8,000 per year! That's over $15k in today's dollars. They were literally sending their retirement dollars straight to the tax assessor's office. I honestly don't know how/why folks keep putting up with it.

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My lower middle class (while they were working) folks moved down South from New York about 30 years ago. They did quite well selling their almost 40-YO house which helped to ease the pain of living there. In the late 1980s they felt they had to move as their small-out-on-Long-Island-subdivision-home had property taxes of $8,000 per year! That's over $15k in today's dollars. They were literally sending their retirement dollars straight to the tax assessor's office. I honestly don't know how/why folks keep putting up with it.

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I am constantly amazed when I read stupidity like this on here. This same theme of basic ignorance hangs over here like a rain cloud.

Areas with high costs of living also have the highest average salaries. That is how it works. It is a REALLY basic concept.

In areas where there are more people, there are going to be higher tax rates and higher levels of govt services. That is how it works. This is ALSO a really basic concept.

If your working years are nothing more than an orgy of spending with little/nothing saved for the future, then your retirement years will be difficult from a financial perspective. That is how it works. This is ALSO a really basic concept.
 

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Funny thing is...morons like Tranny will wish everyone "adieu", not being smart enough to recognize a cascading effect. But what state needs retirees anyway...right?
 

BernieP

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I know some people in NJ who would argue with you and Vermont isn't much better.
real estate taxes are a real killer in NJ. I know people who have been forced from their family home because of the escalation in their property value.
When I say family home, I mean a property that has been in the family for generations.
PA has a quirky rule, properties can't be spot reassessed. The entire county has to be done at the same time (tax year). Very impractical, so your official property value is typically listed as $5000 or something strange, not $750,000. Therefore the only way to raise more money from real estate is to vote the tax increase, since that's done at the township (town) and school district level, the boards are real reluctant to do so. So it's honest.

Back in the late 70's New Jersey started the state income tax, only the revenue didn't go to the general fund, it went to what was called the Homestead Rebate Program. An effort to equalize across the state real estate tax burdens. Their sales tax use to be lower than PA as well.
But that's changed over the decades, liberal policies in Trenton and the major cities (which are all dumps) makes it a high cost / tax state.

Believe it or not, PA is very friendly to retirees. Weather isn't great, but income tax is relatively low and there are some reasonable home prices in areas further away from Philadelphia (Delaware Valley) area.

Probably could snag a nice Lake Erie waterfront property cheap - if you like winter that is.
 
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real estate taxes are a real killer in NJ. I know people who have been forced from their family home because of the escalation in their property value.
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That's probably the primary reason we're bailing; having to fork out over a $1000 a month just for property taxes and Metcom is not appealing at all.
 

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Believe it or not, PA is very friendly to retirees. Weather isn't great, but income tax is relatively low and there are some reasonable home prices in areas further away from Philadelphia (Delaware Valley) area.

Probably could snag a nice Lake Erie waterfront property cheap - if you like winter that is.
Love winter. PA is where the wife and I plan to retire to.
 
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Or get a good used 35-40 foot boat and live aboard at a good marina. Slip fee can be pretty cheap, and no property taxes. Plus free car parking.
I had considered that, but the winter can be pretty tough and long. You could head south for the season, but that gets expensive between fuel and non-resident dockage.
 

Bird Dog

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Besides the high burden of taxes Maryland throws out to you. Sales, income, property, gas etc., I think just the horrible traffic we suffer,
even in lovely St. Mary's we are held hostage between 6:00am until 9:00am....11:00am until 1:00pm and then 3:00pm unit 6:pm.
Then you have Prince Frederick, Waldorf and Brandywine gridlock. I am not even talking about commuting to DC, Annapolis or Baltimore for work from anywhere, especially from MoCo, PG or AA counties. The gridlock north of Baltimore is some of the worse in the country.

Then from May to October a weekend at the "Ocean Hon".....it's impossible unless you want to leave on a Wednesday between 2:00 and 4:00.

That what happens when you have a bunch in DEMS ripping off all the taxes and fees for their Union buddies and do not put it into infrastructure projects.

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Yooper

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(a) I am constantly amazed when I read stupidity like this on here. This same theme of basic ignorance hangs over here like a rain cloud.

Areas with high costs of living also have the highest average salaries. That is how it works. It is a REALLY basic concept.

In areas where there are more people, there are going to be higher tax rates and higher levels of govt services. That is how it works. This is ALSO a really basic concept.

(b) If your working years are nothing more than an orgy of spending with little/nothing saved for the future, then your retirement years will be difficult from a financial perspective. That is how it works. This is ALSO a really basic concept.
(a) One of your absolute dumbest posts ever. Period. Doesn't deserve a substantive response. So I won't.

(b) But I will address the insult. Why you felt free to impugn my parents (whom you know not at all) boggles my mind. Feel free to attack me, but you should have the social awareness/courtesy to leave third parties out.

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(a) One of your absolute dumbest posts ever. Period. Doesn't deserve a substantive response. So I won't.

(b) But I will address the insult. Why you felt free to impugn my parents (whom you know not at all) boggles my mind. Feel free to attack me, but you should have the social awareness/courtesy to leave third parties out.

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Dang... that must have been a doozy insult. I'm sorry I missed it.



No I'm not. :lmao:
 

Kyle

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(a) One of your absolute dumbest posts ever. Period. Doesn't deserve a substantive response. So I won't.

(b) But I will address the insult. Why you felt free to impugn my parents (whom you know not at all) boggles my mind. Feel free to attack me, but you should have the social awareness/courtesy to leave third parties out.

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Trannys the resident seagull who's only purpose in life is to sully the beach and boardwalk.
 
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