Maryland: State's Right Supercedes Parent's Rights

[Merlin99]

OK Ray Charles, nothing in my statement indicates that I would "kill them all & let God send them all to hell". I spoke of NOT bashing them & having compassion on them so they might come out of that lifestyle! You are a blind person sent from below to the devil's work. Go away

By your own criteria you're out of ammo.

As a general rule with me, I can tell when a person doesn't have any more ammunition in them. They tell me to shut up and go away.

I never really expected to change your mind, I just wanted to let you ramble on until you started to show your true colors. I'm not a blind person nor am I sent by the devil, just someone who thinks every religion looks ridiculous from the outside. Have a nice day Mullah.

 

[kmw1123]

according to the article on the montgomery county public schools website, students can still take the basic sex ed course and learn about sperm and eggs. the tolerance lessons can be opted out of and they can take either an independent study, extra abstinence, or stress management portion of the unit. it is a choice either way. for all that are opposed to it, no one is forcing your child to sit in the lesson and change their moral viewpoints. for those that dont have an issue with it, it is there for them to take advantage of. because they are not being forced to take the class and it is not a requirement for graduation, no one's religious values are being violated, therefore that is why it was approved by the state. if you dont want your kids exposed to it, they wont be.

here is the website
www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org
the article is under the news section

 

[Larry Gude]

I wish...

Fishing is a good wholesome activity that I can share with my son. According to my kids, I'm a pretty good guy. So I guess you could judge my character by my activities. His aim has gotten pretty good lately, too.

If

...you only the best for you and your kids and I mean that sincerely. You sound like a very good dad to me. So, chill. I didn't bring kids up first. You did. And I think fishing, along with religion, is great. I just don't enjoy one and I'm agnostic on the other.

We differ on the threat homo's pose to our society and, apparently, sense of humor and I'm fine with both. Having said that, I think you're a guy I'd have beer with. If not, that's fine to. I sure as hell don't see you and your beliefs as a threat to our nation.

 

[calamity jane]

according to the article on the montgomery county public schools website, students can still take the basic sex ed course and learn about sperm and eggs. the tolerance lessons can be opted out of and they can take either an independent study, extra abstinence, or stress management portion of the unit. it is a choice either way. for all that are opposed to it, no one is forcing your child to sit in the lesson and change their moral viewpoints. for those that dont have an issue with it, it is there for them to take advantage of. because they are not being forced to take the class and it is not a requirement for graduation, no one's religious values are being violated, therefore that is why it was approved by the state. if you dont want your kids exposed to it, they wont be.

here is the website
www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org
the article is under the news section

That's how Mont. Co. decided to do it, but each local board can arrange the parental permission requirements as they see fit.
I talked to a person from Cal. Co. schools about whether or not the material on homosexuality that was approved in Mont.Co. is going to be used in Calvert. She said the material is not being looked at to be included into our curriculum at present, but that it could be any time in the future. It is not mandatory instruction right now but could be made so by the state board soon.

 

[kmw1123]

mandatory to be included in each county's sex ed curriculum with the option to opt out, or mandatory that every student be required to take that section of the sex ed unit without being able to opt out?

 

[calamity jane]

mandatory to be included in each county's sex ed curriculum with the option to opt out, or mandatory that every student be required to take that section of the sex ed unit without being able to opt out?

Yes, hopefully.

 

[Dork]

Indoctrination...



Not education



Next Lesson...

Guns bad?
Turn in a bacon cheeseburger eater?

It really amazes me. Most graduating public school students can't spell well, couldn't tell you what happened in Pearl Harbor on December 7th, 1941 and can't pick out Brazil or Australia on a map. They need a cash register to figure out how much change to give you. Yet, they are anxious to teach our kids about the gay lifestyle!

Why do they want to teach our kids about gays in sex education? Sex ed in public schools should cover reproductive issues, that's it! Why is it the school's job to go into lifestyles? That is crossing the line. I would bet that if you put this on a ballot for voters, it would be shot down. We know it will never happen though. The liberal minority would never let this happen.

There's a reason private schools are so full. There is a reason home schooling is growing in popularity so quickly. Think about it.

 

[kmw1123]

It really amazes me. Most graduating public school students can't spell well, couldn't tell you what happened in Pearl Harbor on December 7th, 1941 and can't pick out Brazil or Australia on a map. They need a cash register to figure out how much change to give you. Yet, they are anxious to teach our kids about the gay lifestyle!

Why do they want to teach our kids about gays in sex education? Sex ed in public schools should cover reproductive issues, that's it! Why is it the school's job to go into lifestyles? That is crossing the line. I would bet that if you put this on a ballot for voters, it would be shot down. We know it will never happen though. The liberal minority would never let this happen.

There's a reason private schools are so full. There is a reason home schooling is growing in popularity so quickly. Think about it.

Just because there are alot of kids who don't know how to spell, what happened during WWII, and how to use map skills doesn't mean that we didn't try to teach it to them. Maybe if kids would do their homework, study for tests, and actually put some effort into what they do, they may come out of school a little bit smarter. And if those kids don't learn those skills, are we allowed to retain them and give them another chance to improve??? NO! And why are we not allowed to retain them??? Because parents have the final say and if they don't want their kids held back for whatever reason, then they get moved on to another year of failure. As far as the lifestyles portion of the sex ed program.....IT IS OPTIONAL!!!!! It is only for the parents who want it for their kids. If you don't want it, DON'T TAKE IT! It's as simple as that.

 

[Mikeinsmd]

But, but, but....

As far as the lifestyles portion of the sex ed program.....IT IS OPTIONAL!!!!! It is only for the parents who want it for their kids. If you don't want it, DON'T TAKE IT! It's as simple as that.

.......what about this???

The Maryland State Board of Education has ruled that the right of the state supersedes the rights of parents in teaching children about homosexuality. The Board said the "right (of parents) is not absolute. It must bend to the State's duty to educate its citizens."

 

[Dork]

Just because there are alot of kids who don't know how to spell, what happened during WWII, and how to use map skills doesn't mean that we didn't try to teach it to them. Maybe if kids would do their homework, study for tests, and actually put some effort into what they do, they may come out of school a little bit smarter. And if those kids don't learn those skills, are we allowed to retain them and give them another chance to improve??? NO! And why are we not allowed to retain them??? Because parents have the final say and if they don't want their kids held back for whatever reason, then they get moved on to another year of failure. As far as the lifestyles portion of the sex ed program.....IT IS OPTIONAL!!!!! It is only for the parents who want it for their kids. If you don't want it, DON'T TAKE IT! It's as simple as that.

I agree with the parental issue. The students with the involved parents are usually the ones who do well. The parents who want their kids pushed through and passed and don't want to bother with the results end up with not so smart kids.

On the sex ed issue. How about offering a course to teach how unnatural gay sex is and how it can lead to health issues and death. Teach them how it doesn't reproduce anything. Of course, make it optional. If you are going to offer a gay course, offer a normal hetero course.

 

[kmw1123]

I agree with the parental issue. The students with the involved parents are usually the ones who do well. The parents who want their kids pushed through and passed and don't want to bother with the results end up with not so smart kids.

On the sex ed issue. How about offering a course to teach how unnatural gay sex is and how it can lead to health issues and death. Teach them how it doesn't reproduce anything. Of course, make it optional. If you are going to offer a gay course, offer a normal hetero course.

If by health issues you mean diseases such as AIDS, they are covered in the regular portion of the class and they are taught that using protection and abstinence prevent those diseases. I'm not sure, but I think that if the school offered a course on how immoral it is, that would be supportive of certain religious views, and religion cannot be preached by any school curriculum. No local school board is required to teach the many different viewpoints on any topic. This is why when we teach WWII, we do not show the viewpoints of those supporting what was done to the Jewish during the Holocaust. When we study the founding of this nation, we do not go into depths about what was done to the Native Americans. There already is a class that supports the natural way of reproduction and what happens when Billy and Suzy go through puberty and experience certain urges. That's the regular sex ed course. But there are many children out there who don't feel that way and they never will despite how many people tell them they are going to hell and they are going die some horrible horrible death. What would be the point of offering a couple tolerance lessons if they offer intolerance lessons?

 

[kmw1123]

.......what about this???

I think they are saying that because even though there are parents out there who do not want the course offered because of religion or whatever other reason, something should be offered for those that want or need it. The way it is set up in Montgomery County and the way it was approved by the state let parents opt out of that portion of the unit and substitute it with an extra abstinence portion, stress management, or independent study. I doubt any county will chose to make it mandatory. I can just imagine the backlash...angry mob complete with pitchforks and torches. I don't believe or support anything that goes against a parent's religious or moral beliefs, so I don't want anyone sitting in a class like this if they don't want to. But there are people who do want it. Either kids that are gay or lesbian, or they have friends or family members who are gay or lesbian.

 

[Dork]

If by health issues you mean diseases such as AIDS, they are covered in the regular portion of the class and they are taught that using protection and abstinence prevent those diseases. I'm not sure, but I think that if the school offered a course on how immoral it is, that would be supportive of certain religious views, and religion cannot be preached by any school curriculum. No local school board is required to teach the many different viewpoints on any topic. This is why when we teach WWII, we do not show the viewpoints of those supporting what was done to the Jewish during the Holocaust. When we study the founding of this nation, we do not go into depths about what was done to the Native Americans. There already is a class that supports the natural way of reproduction and what happens when Billy and Suzy go through puberty and experience certain urges. That's the regular sex ed course. But there are many children out there who don't feel that way and they never will despite how many people tell them they are going to hell and they are going die some horrible horrible death. What would be the point of offering a couple tolerance lessons if they offer intolerance lessons?

So, you're saying that just because someone has morals against the gay lifestyle, it's automatically a religious thing. That's an intersting twist. I'm sure there are many people who have never stepped foot in a church who think the homosexual lifestyle is immoral. So, no it does NOT make it a religious thing. Nice little libeal twist. I got a little chuckle out of that one.

 

[Lenny]

If the thought of being queer naturally makes you feel ooogy, being against the perversion has nothing to with religion. It has everything with homesexuality being unnatural. If it doesn't make you feel oogy, you probably won't be convinced, no matter what.