Mass Shooting in New Zealand

[vraiblonde]

Which is why many, if not most, have him/her on ignore.

Now I want to know what he said that was more awful than usual.

 

[Yooper]

To take a line from C.S. Lewis' Abolition of Man and riff on it: we are amazed to see things like this in the world yet afraid to call it what it is and then wonder why it not only remains, but grows.

One additional point....

What galls me the most is, like the Libs in this country, folks in NZ will learn the entirely wrong lesson here and continue to trample civil liberties (e.g., tighter gun control, more surveillance, etc. - like the UK). All in the name of "freedom."

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[vraiblonde]

What galls me the most is, like the Libs in this country, folks in NZ will learn the entirely wrong lesson here and continue to trample civil liberties (e.g., tighter gun control, more surveillance, etc. - like the UK). All in the name of "freedom."

And they will keep getting shot up. Their choice.

 

[Yooper]

Now I want to know what he said that was more awful than usual.

I get it that your ? was rhetorical....

The Trump comment was just stupid.

The Gilligan comment was inflammatory, thoughtless, nekulturny.

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[Midnightrider]

Can we safely say he's freaking crazy and leave it at that?

Everyone always wants to find a "reason" why people do terrible things, and most of the time the answer is simply, "They are freaking crazy."

My question is: what does this have to do with the US?

The usual suspects have been on Twitter all morning ranting about how this is the US's fault, specifically Trump's fault. My understanding is that it happened in NZ and the perps are Australian. How does Trump play into this?

I think we can safely say they/he was a radical terrorist. That’s not the same as crazy.

 

[vraiblonde]

I get it that your ? was rhetorical....

No, it's that I have him on ignore and can't see his posts.

 

[Yooper]

And they will keep getting shot up. Their choice.

And apparently here are the things we are going to have to make choices on (as the rot gets increasingly more pervasive):

Link: Florida Bill Would Jail Minors for Posting Pictures of Guns

Link: Families Of Sandy Hook Victims Allowed To Sue AR-15 Manufacturer, [CT] Judge Rules


Like weeds, these Dems/libs don't give up.... And won't until they completely ruin the yard. All in the name of "freedom."

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[Chris0nllyn]

One additional point....

What galls me the most is, like the Libs in this country, folks in NZ will learn the entirely wrong lesson here and continue to trample civil liberties (e.g., tighter gun control, more surveillance, etc. - like the UK). All in the name of "freedom."

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Which is no different than the US. We're just at different stages.

 

[Yooper]

I think we can safely say they/he was a radical terrorist. That’s not the same as crazy.

I think if you read his manifesto (quoted nicely at length in a post from Chris0nllyn, above) it played out as "radical terrorist." However, "crazy" - or my take, "evil" - is much more likely.

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[Midnightrider]

I think if you read his manifesto (quoted nicely at length in a post from Chris0nllyn, above) it played out as "radical terrorist." However, "crazy" - or my take, "evil" - is much more likely.

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[This_person]

I guess our wonderful President can now claim to have increased at least one category of US exports: hatred inspired violence leading to the deaths of multiple people.

Are you really so ignorant about history AND current affairs that you think that the United States is the incubator of hatred-inspired violence leading to the deaths of multiple people?

If so, please stop posting.

 

[LtownTaxpayer]

No, it's that I have him on ignore and can't see his posts.

I have also marked Tranny for ignoring. I do enjoy an educated debate, but the garbage being spewed was just way too much. I was even giving allowances for the methane poisoning from cranial rectal inversion, but in the end it was just too much.

 

[Yooper]

I have also marked Tranny for ignoring. I do enjoy an educated debate, but the garbage being spewed was just way too much. I was even giving allowances for the methane poisoning from cranial rectal inversion, but in the end it was just too much.

I continue to internally debate whether it's best to ignore (and thus allow its posts to stand unanswered/un-destroyed) or to engage (and provide something for the record to rebut the cancer/sewage it spreads).

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[Bonehead]

I have also marked Tranny for ignoring. I do enjoy an educated debate, but the garbage being spewed was just way too much. I was even giving allowances for the methane poisoning from cranial rectal inversion, but in the end it was just too much.

Yeah hopefully he/she/it is talking to itself.

 

[vraiblonde]

I was even giving allowances for the methane poisoning from cranial rectal inversion, but in the end it was just too much.

I was thinking lead paint chips.

 

[Yooper]

[F]olks in NZ will learn the entirely wrong lesson here and continue to trample civil liberties (e.g., tighter gun control, more surveillance, etc. - like the UK). All in the name of "freedom."

And right on queue they have:

New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said she will change gun laws of the country, with the prime minister noting that the New Zealand government is now looking at banning semi-automatic weapons.
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The suspected gunman got a “category A” firearms license in 2017, and began stockpiling weapons legally at that point, Ardern told reporters on Saturday. The “mere fact” that this happened means people will want to see a change to gun laws, and she was committed to supporting that, she added.

Link: New Zealand To Change Gun Laws After Mosque Shooting

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[Kyle]

5 qualifies as a stockpile in NZ?

 

[BOP]

I don't have a clue, do you?

 

[Kyle]

Watching the news cover this for the last couple days has been consistently amusing but the handwringing is growing tiresome.

Considering the last 40 years of muslim activity, worldwide, when the mosque causualties reach 3-4 million they can start wailing.

Until then

 

[SamSpade]

Watching the news cover this for the last couple days has been consistently amusing but the handwringing is growing tiresome.

Considering the last 40 years of muslim activity, worldwide, when the mosque causualties reach 3-4 million they can start wailing.

Until then

Of course, stuff like THIS is fairly common -

https://www.worldtribune.com/unreported-jihadists-slaughtered-120-christians-in-past-month/

but you never see it in the news. I'm getting disgusted at the idea that criticizing any Muslim is anathema.