MD. Constitution / Declaration of Rights.

J

JPC, Sr.

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:elaine: Being a "conscientious objector" means more than just those that refuse to go to an unjust war.

If a person has a job that expects them to lie or cheat or exploit the population then the people need to object because our conscience tells us it is wrong. Even a spouse may indeed do wrong and one can look away but if the spouse wants help to do wrong then it is time to be a conscientious objector in one's own home.

So now when we see our government putting innocent people in jail and into prison, and we see that the government ignores burned school houses while our political leaders only seek to gratify their greed at the expence of the general population, then now it is time for persons to become conscientious objectors.

It is a reality that conscientious objectors have gone to jail and lost their jobs and other calamities and that is why history remembers both the great and the martyred because they made themselves known by each objecting in some form according to their conscience.

Here in Maryland it is part of our fundamental laws that all citizens have a right to resist against government oppression. See the link here,

The Maryland Constitution / Declaration of Rights.

My reference here is specifically to Article #6, of the MD. Declaration of Rights,

Article #6, "... whenever the ends of Government are perverted, and public liberty manifestly endangered, and all other means of redress are ineffectual, the People may, and of a right ought, to reform the old, or establish a new Government; the doctrine of non-resistance against arbitrary power and oppression is absurd, slavish and destructive of the good and happiness of mankind."

And for how the People might do that is in Article #1, expediently,

Article #1, "... and they [the People] have, at all times, the inalienable right to alter, reform or abolish their Form of Government in such manner as they may deem expedient."

The Maryland Constitution / Declaration of Rights really talks to me.

All of our USA founding fathers (and mothers) were conscientious objectors to the unjust British rule. George Washington took up arms against the then government. The "shot heard around the world" was American citizens conscientiously firing guns at the police. The point being is that history and enlightenment both teach that our own conscience must reign higher then all civil laws. That being that a person must first decide what is right or wrong more-so than what is legal or illegal.

This is what I would like to see fullfilled in Maryland and in St. Mary's County but first it comes in District 29B.

:yay: -------------------- :patriot:
 

MMDad

Lem Putt
JPC said:
So now when we see our government putting innocent people in jail and into prison.

Dead beats and vandals are not innocent. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

To summarize, you want us to elect someone who wants us to shoot at cops, and to overthrow the very govenrment he thinks he has a chance to be part of.

Step away from the computer, and go take your meds. They can stop the voices inside your head. Do you remember how quiet it was last time you were forceably medicated? While you were doing time for being a vandal? That is what's called sanity. Try it, you just might like it.
 
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onebdzee

off the shelf
JPC said:
The Maryland Constitution / Declaration of Rights really talks to me.

I sure it does talk to you....as well as the chair that your sitting in....the wall in front of you....all the hundreds of voices in your head
 
J

JPC, Sr.

Guest
The Truth Shall Set Us All Free.

ItsBob said:
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:flowers: St. Mary's County has a condition much like the one described by Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton where she said the Republican administration is running things like a Plantation mentality (and we know what she means).

Here in SMC we have a similar situation where our rich greedy oligarchy is actively imposing their greed driven big business into our small community and the population like that on a Plantation is doing all the work.

School buildings burn down so ignore that because the greed must proceed.
The roads conjested and that does not matter because the greed must succeed.
Property prices super inflated with rent prices outrageous but do not complain because the population must let the oligarchy have its greed and ignore what the population needs.

I say that we do not have to play the servants in our own home. The greed driven oligarchy only has power because the population foolishly gives it to them.

The whole point of democracy and of elections is to put persons into office that care about the betterment of the community and that will protect the society from intrusions by force and by greed, and SMC is in need now.

In our history the old Plantation houses are a monument to unjust human exploitation, and the Plantation mentality is a monument to human stupidity.

Victory in 29B. :howdy:
 

gumby

I AM GUMBY DAMMIT
JPC said:
:flowers: St. Mary's County has a condition much like the one described by Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton where she said the Republican administration is running things like a Plantation mentality (and we know what she means).

Here in SMC we have a similar situation where our rich greedy oligarchy is actively imposing their greed driven big business into our small community and the population like that on a Plantation is doing all the work.

School buildings burn down so ignore that because the greed must proceed.
The roads conjested and that does not matter because the greed must succeed.
Property prices super inflated with rent prices outrageous but do not complain because the population must let the oligarchy have its greed and ignore what the population needs.

I say that we do not have to play the servants in our own home. The greed driven oligarchy only has power because the population foolishly gives it to them.

The whole point of democracy and of elections is to put persons into office that care about the betterment of the community and that will protect the society from intrusions by force and by greed, and SMC is in need now.

In our history the old Plantation houses are a monument to unjust human exploitation, and the Plantation mentality is a monument to human stupidity.

Victory in 29B. :howdy:



You really are a tard aren't you??? :smack:
 

Spoiled

Active Member
JPC said:
:flowers: St. Mary's County has a condition much like the one described by Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton where she said the Republican administration is running things like a Plantation mentality (and we know what she means).

Here in SMC we have a similar situation where our rich greedy oligarchy is actively imposing their greed driven big business into our small community and the population like that on a Plantation is doing all the work.

School buildings burn down so ignore that because the greed must proceed.
The roads conjested and that does not matter because the greed must succeed.
Property prices super inflated with rent prices outrageous but do not complain because the population must let the oligarchy have its greed and ignore what the population needs.

I say that we do not have to play the servants in our own home. The greed driven oligarchy only has power because the population foolishly gives it to them.

The whole point of democracy and of elections is to put persons into office that care about the betterment of the community and that will protect the society from intrusions by force and by greed, and SMC is in need now.

In our history the old Plantation houses are a monument to unjust human exploitation, and the Plantation mentality is a monument to human stupidity.

Victory in 29B. :howdy:
I will start by saying this: you realize this base is the result of democrat representatives...

You realize capitalism is all about being greedy, its about self-betterment and competition...

And the point of democracy is to be able to hold the politicians accountable, you don’t like what they do; you send them packing... The people vote in people who they think will do the best job and give them what they want and need, if the people here don’t like the base (by the people, i mean the majority of voting people, because that is what you need to win an election -- you do understand this, right?) i think we would have seen something done about it a long time ago.


I understand you haven’t worked since i left elementary school, but some of us still have self-determination and would like to drive the nicer car, have the nicer house, be able to buy the nicer steaks and buy that trashy magazine and candy at the store without having to sweat it... This is what motivates us, this is the drive that made us the best country in the world. You are living off of the money we pay in taxes; you vandalized stuff our money built... As far as I’m concerned you should be able to run for office, I am entitled to my opinion as you and every other person is on this board, however i feel your ideal form of government is communist - and that was is over, the greed driven society won.
 
J

JPC, Sr.

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The Truth Shall Set Us All Free.

Spoiled said:
... ... ... some of us still have self-determination and would like to drive the nicer car, have the nicer house, be able to buy the nicer steaks and buy that trashy magazine and candy at the store without having to sweat it... This is what motivates us, this is the drive that made us the best country in the world. You are living off of the money we pay in taxes; you vandalized stuff our money built... ... ...

:flowers: The USA and Capitalism is not really made out of greed even though it might look that way. The greed we have in St. Mary's County is putting all that nice stuff and all the big plans into jeopardy.

Inflation is a fake kind of prosperity.
 

Spoiled

Active Member
JPC said:
:flowers: The USA and Capitalism is not really made out of greed even though it might look that way. The greed we have in St. Mary's County is putting all that nice stuff and all the big plans into jeopardy.

Inflation is a fake kind of prosperity.
The fact that the average income has increased and we now have more options on where we can choose to eat, shop, get gas, etc... has increased is a good sign of prosperity to me... the reason prices have gone up for property is because the county now has more to offer, more jobs, more options.

When you go out to buy a car do you expect to pay the same for a civic with roll up/down windows, cloth seats, no AC, no cd player and a civic with leather, traction control, cruise control, power windows, mirrors, cd player, rims even though they are both a civic? No, one is nicer and has more options, when they both ultimately serve the same purpose, getting you from place to place... The nicer civic maybe slightly slower and get slightly less gas mileage because of the added weight of the options, however it doesnt bother most people, most of the time...


edit: so what is Capitalism made from?
 

Ken King

A little rusty but not crusty
PREMO Member
JPC said:
So now when we see our government putting innocent people in jail and into prison, and we see that the government ignores burned school houses while our political leaders only seek to gratify their greed at the expence of the general population, then now it is time for persons to become conscientious objectors.
What innocent people are being placed in jail? Do you mean "deadbeats" like you? You are aware that it is criminal to not provide support for minor children, right?

Who has ignored burned school houses? Every school that has had a fire was either repaired or replaced to my knowledge. Care to provide any specifics or is it that you hope that by simply saying so this will become fact?
All of our USA founding fathers (and mothers) were conscientious objectors to the unjust British rule. George Washington took up arms against the then government. The "shot heard around the world" was American citizens conscientiously firing guns at the police. The point being is that history and enlightenment both teach that our own conscience must reign higher then all civil laws. That being that a person must first decide what is right or wrong more-so than what is legal or illegal.
They were not "conscientious objectors", they were objectors, they stood up and did something about it. Bastardizing a term, such as you have, does not make your definition the correct one. The only definition I have ever seen for the term is "a person who refuses to serve in the armed forces or bear arms on moral or religious grounds." And this certainly isn't what our founders did.
 

itsbob

I bowl overhand
Amazing.. you use a word like "Oligarchy" yet you can't spell congested correctly.

You should give your mom back her Thesaurus.
 

PrepH4U

New Member
I say that we do not have to pay the servants in our own home. The greed driven oligarchy only has power because the population foolishly gives it to them.

:confused:

servants, offspring same difference



:lmao:
 

BS Gal

Voted Nicest in 08
PrepH4U said:
:confused:

servants, offspring same difference



:lmao:
I absolutley hate it that the Lexington Park Library is now open on Sundays. I didn't used to, but now........
 
J

JPC, Sr.

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The Truth Shall Set Us All Free.

Spoiled said:
.... ... ...
edit: so what is Capitalism made from?

:popcorn: Capitalism (paraphrased) is when citizens own and operate the business and thus the means of production and distribution of goods.

In other systems like Communism the government owns the businesses and controls the economy while the citizens are servants of the State.

Our Capitalism might look like it is greed driven because we do have many greed driven people in the system. Greed is a common human failing and it is present in every society in the world.

:coffee: --------------------- :popcorn:
 
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