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Ken King

A little rusty but not crusty
PREMO Member
Bill Stepien, Bill Barr, Rudy Giuliani, and numerous others who were all President Trump supporters told him he lost the election. He lost every challenge in court. Every assistant AG in the country was going to resign when he was he was going to appoint a lackey. The “illegitimate process” wasn’t so illegitimate process wasn’t so illegitimate according to our courts. If you want to believe what you’re being fed so be it. I‘m listening to this with an open mind and it shows me that President Trump was attempting to subvert a legal election. I hope he stays out of the next election and we elect a good Republican.
I take it that you are okay with Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin changing their voting process in 2020 that is contrary to their election laws. I guess laws mean nothing to you.

And I haven't been fed anything, it is what I have seen, such as, a judge in Michigan ruled that the secretary of state violated the law when they unilaterally changed absentee voting rules. In Wisconsin the election commission violated numerous aspects of their absentee voting laws including allowing unverified ballots to be counted. In Georgia the election laws were violated by pre-counting absentee ballots before election day as required by law, the election board started counting 3-weeks prior without legislative authority. In Pennsylvania the election laws were violated when ballots were allowed to be accepted up to 3 days after the close of polls on election day.
 

Will99

Active Member
He throws a mean insect. Flies,
I take it that you are okay with Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin changing their voting process in 2020 that is contrary to their election laws. I guess laws mean nothing to you.

And I haven't been fed anything, it is what I have seen, such as, a judge in Michigan ruled that the secretary of state violated the law when they unilaterally changed absentee voting rules. In Wisconsin the election commission violated numerous aspects of their absentee voting laws including allowing unverified ballots to be counted. In Georgia the election laws were violated by pre-counting absentee ballots before election day as required by law, the election board started counting 3-weeks prior without legislative authority. In Pennsylvania the election laws were violated when ballots were allowed to be accepted up to 3 days after the close of polls on election day.
I don’t have the time or the inclination to review each of those cases, and I don’t have the expertise to overrule the judges who decided in them. Unless you think everybody in the country other than Donald Trump is corrupt then I Would have to conclude that the judges decided those cases fairly.
 

Ken King

A little rusty but not crusty
PREMO Member
I don’t have the time or the inclination to review each of those cases, and I don’t have the expertise to overrule the judges who decided in them. Unless you think everybody in the country other than Donald Trump is corrupt then I Would have to conclude that the judges decided those cases fairly.
Just so I understand you correctly, I read that as you don't care enough to look into the violations of the law, got it.
 

Will99

Active Member
Just so I understand you correctly, I read that as you don't care enough to look into the violations of the law, got it.
It’s not what I said. I did look into it but I’m not going to review every single allegation. Even if I did review every single case I don’t believe that I have the expertise which is better than those judges who decided them
 

Will99

Active Member
As soon as I read this, I attribute it to "the rest of what I am about to say is my OPINION with nothing to back it up." Seems quite prevalent around here.
No I think I’ve said what I have to back it up. I’m listening to the former Attorney General of the United States and most everybody in Trump‘s administration tell him that he lost the election. I am also listening to the court decisions that said they were no significant fraud in the elections.
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
PREMO Member
Patron
No I think I’ve said what I have to back it up. I’m listening to the former Attorney General of the United States and most everybody in Trump‘s administration tell him that he lost the election. I am also listening to the court decisions that said they were no significant fraud in the elections.

Well, they most likely say that because those who don't get arrested.
 

Will99

Active Member
They do not think that. In fact, they know damn good and well that didn't happen.

Why you all trusting politicians to not lie?
I’d ask you the same thing are you saying Donald Trump is not a politician? His daughter said that she believes mobile. Why would I think his daughter is a liar?
Well, they most likely say that because those who don't get arrested.
So Donald Trump’s daughter said that she believes Bill Barr when he says that Trump Lost the election because she doesn’t want to get arrested. Yeah that sounds more reasonable than Donald Trump not telling the truth.
 

Ken King

A little rusty but not crusty
PREMO Member
It’s not what I said. I did look into it but I’m not going to review every single allegation. Even if I did review every single case I don’t believe that I have the expertise which is better than those judges who decided them
Sure it is, you said that you didn't have the inclination to look into it, that means you do not care. And as to the judges rulings, most relied upon the doctrine of laches to dismiss, my understanding of those rulings was that it means there is no way to rectify the wrong at this point in time since the states had "certified" the elections. That in no way means that illegalities and irregularities did not occur.
 

Will99

Active Member
Sure it is, you said that you didn't have the inclination to look into it, that means you do not care. And as to the judges rulings, most relied upon the doctrine of laches to dismiss, my understanding of those rulings was that it means there is no way to rectify the wrong at this point in time since the states had "certified" the elections. That in no way means that illegalities and irregularities did not occur.
I look to Bill Barr and other senior members of Trump’s administration who have started he lost the election.
 

Ken King

A little rusty but not crusty
PREMO Member
I look to Bill Barr and other senior members of Trump’s administration who have started he lost the election.
Really, you had to look to them? I looked at the counting of the electoral votes by Congress and the inauguration of Joe Biden as Trump lost the election. Neither of which address the illegalities and irregularities of how the election was conducted.
 

Will99

Active Member
Really, you had to look to them? I looked at the counting of the electoral votes by Congress and the inauguration of Joe Biden as Trump lost the election. Neither of which address the illegalities and irregularities of how the election was conducted.
Yes, because based on the court rulings there was no substantive irregularities in the 2020 election. I think Bill Barr said Trumps fraud claims were Bullshit. Most every senior member of Trumps administration agrees, including his daughter. So, the courts, most every senior member of Trumps administration believe there was no substantial fraud, but somehow, you would believe the election was stolen. At this point, I think you have made every argument you would make and I have expressed my opinion and how I formed it. I don’t think we are going to agree so I thank you for your input.
 
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