More from the girl who put the "duh" in dumb

[SamSpade]

I always find this interesting. Women do not like stupid men, but men LOVE stupid women.

I have never noticed this to be true - I've always seen men AND women - if the person they're attracted to is VERY good looking - that both men and women are able to overlook being stupid. I had two sisters growing up, and both of them went nuts over the captain of the football team or the wrestling team. Guys seriously dumb as a post and they didn't care.

However -

I have generally been repulsed by stupid women and conversely - USUALLY turned on by smart ones (I once met a woman who had her PhD in neurology - and made it clear every moment she was smarter than me).

But I've been stupefied by good looks for a while until I realized - dude, they're really just dumb. I'm actually thinking of one instance in particular where I met three women from my workplace when I went on training. I was stunned by one of them - blonde, blue-eyed, stacked, slim waist, wearing yoga pants - she never went anywhere unnoticed. And she liked me. Met her for breakfast the second day and realized - this girl is profoundly stupid. (I had to work with her years later, and I didn't know the half of it). She did have a 5'1" friend who was kind of plump and plain - and she became my girlfriend. She was smart, witty, fun - smarter than me easily.

 

[vraiblonde]

I have never noticed this to be true - I've always seen men AND women - if the person they're attracted to is VERY good looking - that both men and women are able to overlook being stupid. I had two sisters growing up, and both of them went nuts over the captain of the football team or the wrestling team. Guys seriously dumb as a post and they didn't care.

When I was younger I sometimes liked to have a super good looking dumb guy on my arm so my girlfriends would be like, "How'd you get him???" but he was always temporary. Take him to a party, show him off, put him on the road. The guys I actually liked and dated were reasonably good looking but super nice, funny, and smarter than average - and my girlfriends would be like, "How'd you get him??" about them too.

Once I hit 30 or so my rule was to never take up with a guy who requires more closet space than me or has more grooming products.

 

[UglyBear]

But men will put up with any amount of dumb ... from a woman with a nice ass.

Yes? You have my attention now.

I think we men can handle stupid women with nice attributes for a while, because we think it'll be easier to maneuver into their pants.

But long term life companion -- nope, needs me a smart woman. (got one, and she has both -- and more to boot)

 

[Clem72]

I'll just add that some men are threatened in a big way by smart, capable women. But that is probably a topic for another tread.

Not saying there's no merit to this argument, but I will say the only time I every hear it is from loudmouth obnoxious women who think the only reason men don't put them and/or their ideas up on a pedestal is because the men are "threatened". No honey, it's because you're an idiot and obnoxious and unattractive. Fix one of the three and you'll get a man.

 

[vraiblonde]

Not saying there's no merit to this argument, but I will say the only time I every hear it is from loudmouth obnoxious women who think the only reason men don't put them and/or their ideas up on a pedestal is because the men are "threatened". No honey, it's because you're an idiot and obnoxious and unattractive. Fix one of the three and you'll get a man.

Or it could be that you were indeed threatened and they got a man no problem, just not you.....

 

[SamSpade]

Not saying there's no merit to this argument, but I will say the only time I every hear it is from loudmouth obnoxious women who think the only reason men don't put them and/or their ideas up on a pedestal is because the men are "threatened". No honey, it's because you're an idiot and obnoxious and unattractive. Fix one of the three and you'll get a man.

There's an element of relationships that I don't know how to describe - but at some level, people have a need to feel - needed? Valued, maybe.
I've had this discussion before and it always goes off the rails, because often the women will object because they have a different perspective - they're more familiar with the concept of need in a relationship, it seems. But what I am referring to is, no one wants to be in a relationship with someone whom - if it ended - your significant other really would feel nothing. Because you weren't all that valuable to them. They liked you but - really not that much.

If I'm just not that important, there's very little incentive for me to pour too much into it. I only have so much time and ability to engage.

I mentioned before - I've dated really smart women. Some were enchanting enough to be real - they could be charming. Others, I'd say they'd lived their life using intelligence as a weapon - and it showed. How do you get through a simple conversation without either being shown you're dumb - or just a roll of the eyes at your lack of sophistication. No one likes being put down. Such people, they're not "intimidating". They're just *******s.

 

[Clem72]

Or it could be that you were indeed threatened and they got a man no problem, just not you.....

Keep it in your pants. Im taken.

 

[Bann]

Or it could be that you were indeed threatened and they got a man no problem, just not you.....

Right.

It's funny that a strong woman is characterized as a shrew automatically.

A guy with an inferiority complex and chip on his shoulder couldn't possibly be the problem.

Gotcha.

 

[WingsOfGold]

I always find this interesting. Women do not like stupid men, but men LOVE stupid women.

Checks in the mail, it's only a cold sore and I won't XXX in your mouth.

 

[Clem72]

Right.

It's funny that a strong woman is characterized as a shrew automatically.

A guy with an inferiority complex and chip on his shoulder couldn't possibly be the problem.

Gotcha.

You're being silly. There's a difference between a "strong woman" and a woman that goes around telling everyone how strong they are. Just as there is a difference between a man who doesn't like loud obnoxious people in general (to include women), and one that has an inferiority complex.

Sorry Karen, that hairdo and your insistence on seeing the manager doesn't make you a strong person.

 

[Gilligan]

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[Kyle]

 

[vraiblonde]

There's an element of relationships that I don't know how to describe - but at some level, people have a need to feel - needed? Valued, maybe.

I think that's very true and I'm fairly terrible at it. I go to great lengths to let Monello know I appreciate him and think he's the bomb....because it doesn't come naturally to me. My default is "Thanks, but I got this." My other default is to give the answer rather than let people work it out for themselves and be the smart one.

Unfortunately I don't look like someone who's smart - I never have. Plus I come across as - ugh, I hate this word - bubbly, which also signals that I'm a bit of a mental lightweight. So when I think that someone is underestimating me, I feel the need to straighten them out.

 

[SamSpade]

I think that's very true and I'm fairly terrible at it. I go to great lengths to let Monello know I appreciate him and think he's the bomb....because it doesn't come naturally to me. My default is "Thanks, but I got this." My other default is to give the answer rather than let people work it out for themselves and be the smart one.

Unfortunately I don't look like someone who's smart - I never have. Plus I come across as - ugh, I hate this word - bubbly, which also signals that I'm a bit of a mental lightweight. So when I think that someone is underestimating me, I feel the need to straighten them out.

You know, when we met at Fred and Kim's and we were all sitting around and talking and joking, I realized that you're a bit of a nerd like the rest of us were. It was very reassuring. I'm not kidding. There was a moment I was watching and thinking, she really IS one of US. I know a handful of women who are wicked smart and one of the things I like is that, when I'm chatting and dropping little obscure references to movies and culture - they will just burst out laughing - because they KNOW the references, and aren't just being polite. And it usually takes me by surprise, because I expect people to ignore them. You actually got some of them.

When it comes to some social interaction - much of my behavior is learned. I LEARNED to notice if a woman I know does her hair differently or is wearing new clothes - because THAT doesn't come "naturally" to me. I LEARNED to say to women I know that they look nice, or to remember things like birthdays or events important to them - it does not come naturally. I write them down. My wife will say something like "we've been married THIS long, and you don't KNOW this...." and my first thought is, I forgot to write it down. Seriously. I have to make an effort to remember and say and do things to show I care. It's not fake. I write it down because I care, it's just not EASY to me.

Since my Dad died I learned he did it too but you would never know. He made it look easy. I know this because my mom never remembers my kid's birthdays or what grade they are in and so on - until she finds my Dad's notes. I know for some people it seems a fake, but it strikes me as very genuine - when someone tries very hard to be your friend rather than let it come naturally - to me, it's irresistible. You can't HELP but appreciate it.

 

[Bann]

You're being silly. There's a difference between a "strong woman" and a woman that goes around telling everyone how strong they are. Just as there is a difference between a man who doesn't like loud obnoxious people in general (to include women), and one that has an inferiority complex.

Sorry Karen, that hairdo and your insistence on seeing the manager doesn't make you a strong person.

Generalizations tend to be just that - generalizations.

 

[WingsOfGold]

Unfortunately I don't look like someone who's smart - I never have. Plus I come across as - ugh, I hate this word - bubbly, which also signals that I'm a bit of a mental lightweight. So when I think that someone is underestimating me, I feel the need to straighten them out.

So you're a dream date huh?

 

[Grumpy]

Nation Totally In Favor Of Ocasio-Cortez Permanently Boycotting Her Job

U.S.—The majority of the nation is "totally in favor" of Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez boycotting her job permanently.

babylonbee.com

 

[Grumpy]

 

[GregV814]

If Vanna refuses to return to wheel of fortune..... ABC/Disney has their next letter turner arounder...

Of course, there will be some minor adjustments and training issues..... but she has the wardrobe and can relate to the people that ask for an "R" when trying to spell " Pacific ocea_"