my doggy

[libertytyranny]

Needs to go to the vet, but I, alone, CANNOT physically take him there..He is too strong and too big and is so hyperactive its impossible.

IS there a mobile vet that can see him? One that isn't a bajillion dollars? He needs his rabies shot, his ear looked at, his diet evaluated (he's so freaking skinny), and please, dear god, some drugs..they make doggy ritalin, and he needs it.
He can't focus, he can't listen, he can't stop moving for long enough for a single word I say to register. I keep waiting for him to grow out of it, (he's a year and a few months now) and he doesn't. SO takes him on walks when he is home, he gets hours of exercise outside in the morning and evening..he does stay crated during the day and night, but I can't help that. I would love more than anything in the world to let him out, but the minute he is out in the house he tears around , jumps over everything, gets into everything, gets in my cabinets, pulls things off my table, chews my toilet seat, chases my cats, counter surfs, pulls dishes out of the sink, chews my pillows and DESPITE never , ever allowing him to jump on people, he does it anyway. He is such a sweetie and a happy dog, but he's getting to the point where I am starting to be angry with him, and I don't like that feeling. He knows some basic commands, but he cannot focus enough on me to actually listen. Or he'll half sit on his way to see whats in the kitchen. he's killing me. I had a trainer out but that was about useless..and he's getting worse.

PLEASE tell me there are drugs. Just enough drugs to make him stop for a split second to listen to me. He's like the marley and me dog on steroids, and I have a 6month old in the house!

 

[cattitude]

Have used her for over 10 years, she's great. Not sure if she comes to where you are...

Darnells Mobile Veterinary Service / Home

Poor pup needs more attention and exercise (and about 15 minutes a day of training) and less crate time.

 

[ICit]

Needs to go to the vet, but I, alone, CANNOT physically take him there..He is too strong and too big and is so hyperactive its impossible.

IS there a mobile vet that can see him? One that isn't a bajillion dollars? He needs his rabies shot, his ear looked at, his diet evaluated (he's so freaking skinny), and please, dear god, some drugs..they make doggy ritalin, and he needs it.
He can't focus, he can't listen, he can't stop moving for long enough for a single word I say to register. I keep waiting for him to grow out of it, (he's a year and a few months now) and he doesn't. SO takes him on walks when he is home, he gets hours of exercise outside in the morning and evening..he does stay crated during the day and night, but I can't help that. I would love more than anything in the world to let him out, but the minute he is out in the house he tears around , jumps over everything, gets into everything, gets in my cabinets, pulls things off my table, chews my toilet seat, chases my cats, counter surfs, pulls dishes out of the sink, chews my pillows and DESPITE never , ever allowing him to jump on people, he does it anyway. He is such a sweetie and a happy dog, but he's getting to the point where I am starting to be angry with him, and I don't like that feeling. He knows some basic commands, but he cannot focus enough on me to actually listen. Or he'll half sit on his way to see whats in the kitchen. he's killing me. I had a trainer out but that was about useless..and he's getting worse.

PLEASE tell me there are drugs. Just enough drugs to make him stop for a split second to listen to me. He's like the marley and me dog on steroids, and I have a 6month old in the house!

its hard having a baby and also dealing with the responsibilities of having a dog... (as I recall you never finished with his OB training with Turbo - prior to Turbo leaving.. .and I have offered to continue with the training)

He is bored!! Dogs are not just an accessory in the house.. they need discipline, exercise.. and a good structure. A BORE DOG IS A DESTRUCTIVE DOG! ... trust me I know!

he does not need drugs.... he needs to get out. Why don't you take the baby in a stroller, and him for a walk. (well first you teach him how to walk in a nice manner and then you can enjoy both.. the baby and the dog)

 

[animalluvr4life]

Needs to go to the vet, but I, alone, CANNOT physically take him there..He is too strong and too big and is so hyperactive its impossible.

IS there a mobile vet that can see him? One that isn't a bajillion dollars? He needs his rabies shot, his ear looked at, his diet evaluated (he's so freaking skinny), and please, dear god, some drugs..they make doggy ritalin, and he needs it.
He can't focus, he can't listen, he can't stop moving for long enough for a single word I say to register. I keep waiting for him to grow out of it, (he's a year and a few months now) and he doesn't. SO takes him on walks when he is home, he gets hours of exercise outside in the morning and evening..he does stay crated during the day and night, but I can't help that. I would love more than anything in the world to let him out, but the minute he is out in the house he tears around , jumps over everything, gets into everything, gets in my cabinets, pulls things off my table, chews my toilet seat, chases my cats, counter surfs, pulls dishes out of the sink, chews my pillows and DESPITE never , ever allowing him to jump on people, he does it anyway. He is such a sweetie and a happy dog, but he's getting to the point where I am starting to be angry with him, and I don't like that feeling. He knows some basic commands, but he cannot focus enough on me to actually listen. Or he'll half sit on his way to see whats in the kitchen. he's killing me. I had a trainer out but that was about useless..and he's getting worse.

PLEASE tell me there are drugs. Just enough drugs to make him stop for a split second to listen to me. He's like the marley and me dog on steroids, and I have a 6month old in the house!

call training by julie. she will be able to help you with your dog. she did mine. she does positive reinforcement training. You will I bet have to do multiple training sessions to get the dog to listen as he is already over 1yr old. I had to do 8wks worth of training with a 2yr old dog and she is doing pretty good for having a late start. We used 1 trainer when she was a baby who basically threw a prong collar on her and yanked the #### out of her to get her to listen. Training by julie doesn't do that (they hate prong collars) they do positive reinforcement training which is a lot better and it actually works.

3 others have recommended dr.darnell to me too and say she is wonderful.

 

[ICit]

call training by julie. she will be able to help you with your dog. she did mine. she does positive reinforcement training. You will I bet have to do multiple training sessions to get the dog to listen as he is already over 1yr old. I had to do 8wks worth of training with a 2yr old dog and she is doing pretty good for having a late start. We used 1 trainer when she was a baby who basically threw a prong collar on her and yanked the #### out of her to get her to listen. Training by julie doesn't do that (they hate prong collars) they do positive reinforcement training which is a lot better and it actually works.

3 others have recommended dr.darnell to me too and say she is wonderful.

I think it may be everyone is tight on money as well....

... and I have one dog that doesnt respond to anything other than a prong.. and when its on... I dont even have to correct him...
also I always have used a positive reinforcement method with mine... yes it works very well.

I think JULIE does a great job.. and is great with her clients... I only send someone there if they would be with her!

and I also know the trainer you are speaking of .. and Im sure she didnt yank the **** out of the dog!

 

[libertytyranny]

its hard having a baby and also dealing with the responsibilities of having a dog... (as I recall you never finished with his OB training with Turbo - prior to Turbo leaving.. .and I have offered to continue with the training)

He is bored!! Dogs are not just an accessory in the house.. they need discipline, exercise.. and a good structure. A BORE DOG IS A DESTRUCTIVE DOG! ... trust me I know!

he does not need drugs.... he needs to get out. Why don't you take the baby in a stroller, and him for a walk. (well first you teach him how to walk in a nice manner and then you can enjoy both.. the baby and the dog)

He is like 70ishlbs of muscle and while he is actually fairly good on the leash if he were to take a notion to go get something there is no way I can physically control him. He does not respond to commands when he is excited and therefore I will not take the chance of walking a dog I can't explicitely control. And being a pit, if another dog attacked him or something and they fought, it would always be my dog's fault.

SO DOES take him on walks when he is home, nightly. It doesn't make a difference in his behavior in the house. He isn't destructive, per se, but rather just so excited he can't control himself or listen to a word I say. When I can catch his attention (usually when he is outside, go figure) he can follow several basic commands. Sit, down, lay down...but in the house all bets are off. He does have plenty of outside time. And I play with him out there as much as possible...and he's a different dog outside (well except for the jumping on people, that I can't seem to break)

Honestly, turbo did very little with him, and I only got about 4 actual sessions. Especially when we paid for 10. We tried an electric collar on him and all he did was lay on his back and cower, I wouldn't let him put it on again, it did NO good because he wouldn't listen out of fright then instead of excitement. Turbo got him to listen to HIS commands more reliably than mine, but still only the very basic ones. His exuberance in the house is my main concern. i cannot allow an 80lb dog to tear around my house with an infant. He isn't mean, he isn't destructive (some chewing, but I always have bones and he is redirected easily) he isn't a barker, digger or terrible dog. But he cannot, absolutely CANNOT listen. If you try to correct him, say no, or get loud, he cowers like he's getting beat (and ive had him since 8weeks, he's never been beat) and then proceeds to do the EXACT same thing that he was just told no for. It's frustrating as all get out. I am doing all that I possibly am able to do. I didn't want the damn dog to begin with, but got stuck with him and now I am responsible for giving him a good life....and I am trying. SO isn't home all the time, and it's his dog really, but it is become pretty much my responsibility. I would love to have hours and hours to devote to him, but I don't. I am willing to take advice and give him what time I do have. Iam trying my damndest...no one loves animals, or this dog, more than I do.

I am trying to get my hands on a large outdoor kennel so he has a place to be at least during good weather during the day rather than the crate, but ideally I would like to have him chill enough to let run the house. I refuse to have an outdoor dog, and I hate having a crated dog. I want a dog that can be out and about and be part of the family, and it is killing me for it to be like this, but he is just not able to be a good family member yet.

 

[libertytyranny]

I called that mobile vet and will hopefully have her come out soon to see him. I am hoping she can help me out with soemthing to chill out his anxiety and craziness just long enough to actually work with him. I am not looking for something to zonk him out, or anything long term. Just something to help me out, something to help him be coherent long enough to have him stay out of the crate a few nights, listen to commands he already knows, that sort of thing. Even one of those pheremone collars. Anything.

 

[ICit]

He is like 70ishlbs of muscle and while he is actually fairly good on the leash if he were to take a notion to go get something there is no way I can physically control him. He does not respond to commands when he is excited and therefore I will not take the chance of walking a dog I can't explicitely control. And being a pit, if another dog attacked him or something and they fought, it would always be my dog's fault.

SO DOES take him on walks when he is home, nightly. It doesn't make a difference in his behavior in the house. He isn't destructive, per se, but rather just so excited he can't control himself or listen to a word I say. When I can catch his attention (usually when he is outside, go figure) he can follow several basic commands. Sit, down, lay down...but in the house all bets are off. He does have plenty of outside time. And I play with him out there as much as possible...and he's a different dog outside (well except for the jumping on people, that I can't seem to break)

Honestly, turbo did very little with him, and I only got about 4 actual sessions. Especially when we paid for 10. We tried an electric collar on him and all he did was lay on his back and cower, I wouldn't let him put it on again, it did NO good because he wouldn't listen out of fright then instead of excitement. Turbo got him to listen to HIS commands more reliably than mine, but still only the very basic ones. His exuberance in the house is my main concern. i cannot allow an 80lb dog to tear around my house with an infant. He isn't mean, he isn't destructive (some chewing, but I always have bones and he is redirected easily) he isn't a barker, digger or terrible dog. But he cannot, absolutely CANNOT listen. If you try to correct him, say no, or get loud, he cowers like he's getting beat (and ive had him since 8weeks, he's never been beat) and then proceeds to do the EXACT same thing that he was just told no for. It's frustrating as all get out. I am doing all that I possibly am able to do. I didn't want the damn dog to begin with, but got stuck with him and now I am responsible for giving him a good life....and I am trying. SO isn't home all the time, and it's his dog really, but it is become pretty much my responsibility. I would love to have hours and hours to devote to him, but I don't. I am willing to take advice and give him what time I do have. Iam trying my damndest...no one loves animals, or this dog, more than I do.

I am trying to get my hands on a large outdoor kennel so he has a place to be at least during good weather during the day rather than the crate, but ideally I would like to have him chill enough to let run the house. I refuse to have an outdoor dog, and I hate having a crated dog. I want a dog that can be out and about and be part of the family, and it is killing me for it to be like this, but he is just not able to be a good family member yet.

YEAH.. I do understand. I dont know if I would have put him right in an Ecollar..if he was sumissive or a soft dog.... there are other things you can try in the house to get him to use his head and get him thinking! And would be fun for you both. it will get him to look towards you as a leader and could help keep him busy!

Turbo had a really bad accident when he went to FL... he is ok now but may not be back to MD.

 

[ICit]

I called that mobile vet and will hopefully have her come out soon to see him. I am hoping she can help me out with soemthing to chill out his anxiety and craziness just long enough to actually work with him. I am not looking for something to zonk him out, or anything long term. Just something to help me out, something to help him be coherent long enough to have him stay out of the crate a few nights, listen to commands he already knows, that sort of thing. Even one of those pheremone collars. Anything.

meds are not the answer.. I will PM you some tricks to try!! .. it has saved me from one of my crazy dogs!!

 

[ArkRescue]

I am trying to get my hands on a large outdoor kennel so he has a place to be at least during good weather during the day rather than the crate, but ideally I would like to have him chill enough to let run the house. I refuse to have an outdoor dog, and I hate having a crated dog. I want a dog that can be out and about and be part of the family, and it is killing me for it to be like this, but he is just not able to be a good family member yet.

I totally agree with you. My boy had to be crated during times I was at work for fear he'd 1) hurt a critter or 2) mess up the house. I did eventually get him an outdoor run, but like you said that's only helpful during good weather, and only on a limited basis.

Since he was crated during the day, at night I resorted to tying a horse lead rope to the leg of the huge dresser in the bedroom, and would hook his harness to it. That way he wasn't crated, but he could only go so far.

The things we go through for our pets .

 

[libertytyranny]

YEAH.. I do understand. I dont know if I would have put him right in an Ecollar..if he was sumissive or a soft dog.... there are other things you can try in the house to get him to use his head and get him thinking! And would be fun for you both. it will get him to look towards you as a leader and could help keep him busy!

Turbo had a really bad accident when he went to FL... he is ok now but may not be back to MD.

meds are not the answer.. I will PM you some tricks to try!! .. it has saved me from one of my crazy dogs!!

He's very submissive. So I think that what makes it so tough, sometimes. I am sorry to hear about turbo. he was a nice guy, I just think that me being pregnant and him being younger at that point made it tough to make any real headway. I am certainly willing to try just about anything. I'd love him to be a good pet.

 

[ICit]

He's very submissive. So I think that what makes it so tough, sometimes. I am sorry to hear about turbo. he was a nice guy, I just think that me being pregnant and him being younger at that point made it tough to make any real headway. I am certainly willing to try just about anything. I'd love him to be a good pet.

it takes time.. and a strong commitment with you and your hubby!

 

[Nickel]

Liberty, I feel for you. My dog is 85ish lbs, and when Dustin went on a yearlong deployment a few years ago he flipped out (the dog, not my husband ). I was really at my wit's end...not in a "I need to get rid of this dog" way, because I have always loved him to pieces. More of a "what the hell is going on, nothing is working, he doesn't listen to me!" kind of way. It was extremely frustrating.

I know that a few people take issue with the Dog Whisperer, and for the most part I think he's cheesy, but I'm telling you he changed my dog (I do not watch the show so I can't speak for his tactics on those dogs). I picked up one of his books (I'm not sure which one off the top of my head, but I could find out for you if you wanted). I did two things: Two 30 minute structured walks a day. Not walking to socialize or sniff, but walking to walk. He explains how to walk your dog which is kind of silly, but some people don't know. And for the record, free play outside can not replace that structured walk. They serve two different purposes. The second thing I did was change my attitude. I was exasperated and I let it show, which only confused him. Cesar says something like (and I hope I'm getting this right) the dog needs someone to be in charge, and if he doesn't perceive you to be in charge, he will step into that role regardless of how comfortable he is with it. Your dog wants you to be in charge and is much happier following your lead than being the boss. Calm-assertive is the phrasing he uses for the attitude you should always project. Within a week, my pup had done a complete 180. He was still playful (and at almost 6 years old he has not lost his joie de vivre ), but not obnoxious. I look at my dog now and it's hard to believe that we hit that little speedbump a few years ago.

Clearly I am not an expert and only have limited experience, but it's worth a shot. It sounds like somebody needs to prove to this pup (by leadership, not punishment) that he is not in charge anymore.

P.S. - In regards to walks...as I said, my dog is around 85 lbs and is also very strong (although he doesn't assert his strength anymore). More often than not, I'm the one walking him. Get yourself a Gentle Leader or Easy Walk Harness (I like Gentle Leader better, but I'm not sure if your dog has a stubby nose) - he won't be able to pull.

 

[migtig]

When I found myself being walking a dog that outweighed me by quite a bit, I bought him a harness. After that I could walk that dog instead of him dragging me. We had a few tests of it at first, and I just stood my ground and didn't move. Once he accepted that, we had no problems walking with it.

 

[ICit]

Liberty, I feel for you. My dog is 85ish lbs, and when Dustin went on a yearlong deployment a few years ago he flipped out (the dog, not my husband ). I was really at my wit's end...not in a "I need to get rid of this dog" way, because I have always loved him to pieces. More of a "what the hell is going on, nothing is working, he doesn't listen to me!" kind of way. It was extremely frustrating.

I know that a few people take issue with the Dog Whisperer, and for the most part I think he's cheesy, but I'm telling you he changed my dog (I do not watch the show so I can't speak for his tactics on those dogs). I picked up one of his books (I'm not sure which one off the top of my head, but I could find out for you if you wanted). I did two things: Two 30 minute structured walks a day. Not walking to socialize or sniff, but walking to walk. He explains how to walk your dog which is kind of silly, but some people don't know. And for the record, free play outside can not replace that structured walk. They serve two different purposes. The second thing I did was change my attitude. I was exasperated and I let it show, which only confused him. Cesar says something like (and I hope I'm getting this right) the dog needs someone to be in charge, and if he doesn't perceive you to be in charge, he will step into that role regardless of how comfortable he is with it. Your dog wants you to be in charge and is much happier following your lead than being the boss. Calm-assertive is the phrasing he uses for the attitude you should always project. Within a week, my pup had done a complete 180. He was still playful (and at almost 6 years old he has not lost his joie de vivre ), but not obnoxious. I look at my dog now and it's hard to believe that we hit that little speedbump a few years ago.

Clearly I am not an expert and only have limited experience, but it's worth a shot. It sounds like somebody needs to prove to this pup (by leadership, not punishment) that he is not in charge anymore.

P.S. - In regards to walks...as I said, my dog is around 85 lbs and is also very strong (although he doesn't assert his strength anymore). More often than not, I'm the one walking him. Get yourself a Gentle Leader or Easy Walk Harness (I like Gentle Leader better, but I'm not sure if your dog has a stubby nose) - he won't be able to pull.

I love the gentle leader... BUT 99.9% of dogs need to be trained to it.

.... it not like you can just smack it on and roll.. most dogs will fight it until they are use to it.. yet again something to work on!
.... I have one dog that if you have her on a flat.. she will drag you but the sec. you place the GL on... and 2yr old can walk her! night and day!

It took only a few days and positive reinf. to get all dogs to walk in a GL... one still has some issues with it and will out of the blue just face plant on the pavement to get it off... but we are working on it.

 

[ICit]

When I found myself being walking a dog that outweighed me by quite a bit, I bought him a harness. After that I could walk that dog instead of him dragging me. We had a few tests of it at first, and I just stood my ground and didn't move. Once he accepted that, we had no problems walking with it.

some dogs will do ok in a harness... but for a few of them a harness means PULL.

..... I would like you to walk two of mine in a harness!!!!


they have the no pull harness.. Gentle leader ones also...

 

[Nickel]

I love the gentle leader... BUT 99.9% of dogs need to be trained to it.

.... it not like you can just smack it on and roll.. most dogs will fight it until they are use to it.. yet again something to work on!
.... I have one dog that if you have her on a flat.. she will drag you but the sec. you place the GL on... and 2yr old can walk her! night and day!

It took only a few days and positive reinf. to get all dogs to walk in a GL... one still has some issues with it and will out of the blue just face plant on the pavement to get it off... but we are working on it.

Yes! I forgot to mention that. It comes with a DVD to explain everything, though!

some dogs will do ok in a harness... but for a few of them a harness means PULL.

..... I would like you to walk two of mine in a harness!!!!


they have the no pull harness.. Gentle leader ones also...

For my dog, harness = pull, although it's not near as bad as just clipping into his collar. The Easy Walk Harness is the no-pull harness and is nice, but doesn't fit my dog well because his chest is so deep and his shoulders are narrow.

 

[ICit]

Yes! I forgot to mention that. It comes with a DVD to explain everything, though!


For my dog, harness = pull, although it's not near as bad as just clipping into his collar. The Easy Walk Harness is the no-pull harness and is nice, but doesn't fit my dog well because his chest is so deep and his shoulders are narrow.

yeah.. same here
....its crazy cuz he acts a fool with the GL, and eazy walk harness... but place the prong on him and he is a SAINT! ... I dont have to do a thing! he corrects himself.

 

[ArkRescue]

yeah.. same here
....its crazy cuz he acts a fool with the GL, and eazy walk harness... but place the prong on him and he is a SAINT! ... I dont have to do a thing! he corrects himself.

smart doggie ?

 

[libertytyranny]

Ok. So I feel a little better. The vet is going to come out (she sounds so nice!) and do a physical and all that he needs and make sure he has nothing physically wrong, im getting him a large run for good weather during the day, and I am going to try to get someone to keep an eye on the baby while I work with walking him. I cannot do both, for sure, and SO just isn't home enough for me to add him into my plans. I already keep him well stocked with things to chew/play with so hopefully more walking (with some sort of walking apparatus, I have a flat collar on him now) and some time and he can be part of the family.