My name is Natalie...

vraiblonde

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...and I'm only tree years old...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml?xml=/arts/2006/06/15/bmdixie15.xml

"The entire country may disagree with me, but I don't understand the necessity for patriotism," Maines resumes, through gritted teeth. "Why do you have to be a patriot? About what? This land is our land? Why? You can like where you live and like your life, but as for loving the whole country… I don't see why people care about patriotism."
She sounds like a teenager getting existential with her friends while smoking pot. Remember? How you start reducing things to their least common deniminator and trying to remove the human factor, while reciting the lyrics to "Imagine" and thinking Marx probably had the right idea?

Next Natalie will opine about the chemical makeup of a Dorito and wonder if it feels pain when you bite into it.
 

wmburdette

9/11 - Never Forget!
vraiblonde said:
She sounds like a teenager getting existential with her friends while smoking pot. Remember? How you start reducing things to their least common deniminator and trying to remove the human factor, while reciting the lyrics to "Imagine" and thinking Marx probably had the right idea?

Next Natalie will opine about the chemical makeup of a Dorito and wonder if it feels pain when you bite into it.
Finally, an analysis of Natalie Maines that makes sense! :lmao:
 

SamSpade

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I'm really just glad that in the final analysis - they're just admitting they were never really into country music at all. It always kind of unnerved me to know they ditched their early stuff to pick up Maines, who was never into country - made a butt-load of money - and now it all comes out "you know, I hate this crap and the people who listen to it" kind of stuff.

Good riddance to bad rubbish - we don't miss you.
 

Toxick

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SamSpade said:
It always kind of unnerved me to know they ditched their early stuff to pick up Maines, who was never into country - made a butt-load of money - and now it all comes out "you know, I hate this crap and the people who listen to it" kind of stuff.


Yay capitalism!

It's not like these CoUNTry Singers are the only pepole who don't give a tiny rat's about about the people who buy their stuff, or what happens to them after their money has changed pockets.
 

Fray

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vraiblonde said:
...and I'm only tree years old...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml?xml=/arts/2006/06/15/bmdixie15.xml


She sounds like a teenager getting existential with her friends while smoking pot. Remember? How you start reducing things to their least common deniminator and trying to remove the human factor, while reciting the lyrics to "Imagine" and thinking Marx probably had the right idea?

Next Natalie will opine about the chemical makeup of a Dorito and wonder if it feels pain when you bite into it.
Her parents must be wondering where they went so wrong.
 

SamSpade

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Toxick said:
Yay capitalism!

It's not like these CoUNTry Singers are the only pepole who don't give a tiny rat's about about the people who buy their stuff, or what happens to them after their money has changed pockets.

I think that entertainment is slightly different. I mean, I *know* lawyers and doctors who are in it largely because, they can DO it, and it pays well.

It's rare to find, say, a nurse or a school teacher who's in it for the money.

But I think in entertainment, they choose their venue because they like it - because the overwhelming majority of them are NOT going to make big bucks off of it. Would you be willing to live as poor as a church mouse for years, performing something you couldn't STAND to do - on the tiny chance you MIGHT get a big break?

Natalie - like other children of big shots in entertainment - really wasn't gonna starve in the street plying her craft. She kind of came in through the back door of the big stage. Didn't have to pay her dues like so many do. So it comes as no shock to me that she's just coming clean and saying "hey, I hated this country gig the whole time anyway, and BTW, I take BACK my apology".

Bye.

Still don't miss you.
 

Ponytail

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SamSpade said:
I think that entertainment is slightly different. I mean, I *know* lawyers and doctors who are in it largely because, they can DO it, and it pays well.
...

And that right there could be why a friend of mine had to bury his 19 year old daughter the day before Fathers Day. She went in for "simple" knee surgery, went back for complications 3 times in three days, was administered percosets in increasing strength, then was accused of being addicted to drugs by the same doc that performed the surgery and died waiting in the emergency room for someone to listen to her. She had a blood clot from the surgery that went to her brain. I'm sure the doc COULD do the job. He just didn't care. And this is the second instance of a death by blood clot of a patient of this doctor as the parents recently discovered.

Is Natalie going to kill anybody? Doubtful. But how many little girls looked up to Natelie as a rollmodel? What does her MLB player hubby think (they are still married aren't they?) and does he have the same additude? Does he play ball just because he can? I can believe it. It's sickening to to think that we're the ones that put these people on pedestals and pay their way to their multi-million dollar mansions and we repeatedly see that they don't care. They cared when they were struggling trying to make it, now that they've made it, they don't care???

And we pay the high prices for their music, and game tickets for what? oh yea. Entertainment. That's it. Nothing more. I couldn't give a rats ass whether they like they're audience or not or what their views of the war are or anything else. I pay them to entertain me. That's it. If you like Natalie's music, go to a concert and bring a sign large enough for her to see it that says "Shut the Eff up and sing!"

When they don't provide satisfying entertainment any more, they aren't paid anymore. Michael Jackson who?

Kinda like the doc that screwed up on my friends daughter. Something tells me that his pockets are going to be somewhat lighter. The papers were served the day she died. The articles are next. His career is done.
 
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Penn

Dancing Up A Storm
quote: "The entire country may disagree with me, but I don't understand the necessity for patriotism"

This is where somebody ought to say "What goes around, comes around."
 

Pandora

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Forgive, sounds good.
Forget, I'm not sure I could.
They say time heals everything,
But I'm still waiting

I'm through, with doubt,
There's nothing left for me to figure out,
I've paid a price, and i'll keep paying

I'm not ready to make nice,
I'm not ready to back down,
I'm still mad as hell
And I don't have time
To go round and round and round
It's too late to make it right
I probably wouldn't if I could
Cause I'm mad as hell
Can't bring myself to do what it is
You think I should

I know you said
Why can't you just get over it,
It turned my whole world around
and i kind of like it

I made by bed, and I sleep like a baby,
With no regrets and I don't mind saying,
It's a sad sad story
That a mother will teach her daughter
that she ought to hate a perfect stranger.
And how in the world
Can the words that I said
Send somebody so over the edge
That they'd write me a letter
Saying that I better shut up and sing
Or my life will be over

I'm not ready to make nice,
I'm not ready to back down,
I'm still mad as hell
And I don't have time
To go round and round and round
It's too late to make it right
I probably wouldn't if I could
Cause I'm mad as hell
Can't bring myself to do what it is
You think I should

I'm not ready to make nice,
I'm not ready to back down,
I'm still mad as hell
And I don't have time
To go round and round and round
It's too late to make it right
I probably wouldn't if I could
Cause I'm mad as hell
Can't bring myself to do what it is
You think I should

Forgive, sounds good.
Forget, I'm not sure I could.
They say time heals everything,
But I'm still waiting



^ I saw the video to this over the weekend, off their new album, so their videos are still being aired. Anyway, I researched the lyrics (above) and started reading the lyrics to all the songs. Just about every one of the songs on their new album are written in…. :snapsfingers: not sure the word I’m looking for but bitterness… anger… subliminal…. well... maybe you can thing of another word


SamSpade said:
I'm really just glad that in the final analysis - they're just admitting they were never really into country music at all. It always kind of unnerved me to know they ditched their early stuff to pick up Maines, who was never into country - made a butt-load of money - and now it all comes out "you know, I hate this crap and the people who listen to it" kind of stuff.

Good riddance to bad rubbish - we don't miss you.

Have you ever read The 48 Rules of Power? If I hadn’t read this for a class, I would have been ashamed to admit I’ve read it.

It is written with a rule then a long dialogue into history as to why this is so. Actually, I enjoyed the history.

One of the rules said that when you want something you cannot have and know that you cannot have it, you turn the tables and express your disdain. So when I read your post, I thought back to that reading and asked myself… hummmm… does she really feel that way or is she using a defense mechanism. hummmmm
 
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Bustem' Down

Give Peas a Chance
Penn said:
quote: "The entire country may disagree with me, but I don't understand the necessity for patriotism"

This is where somebody ought to say "What goes around, comes around."
I'm not a patriot. There's nothing wrong with that.

I don't like thier music, but I laughed when I heard it debued at No.1. Marketing at it's best.
 
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Bruzilla

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In case no one's noticed, a record debuting at number one quit being a big deal a few years ago. Record sales are in the toilet across the board, so boasting about being number one in record sales is just being the best of the worst, the #1 rated show on public access TV, or the #1 rated show on Air America.

Also, Maines is trying to focus the groups issues on politics, rather than on her statements that degraded country fans and her decision to quit doing the music she hates because she had the money to quit doing it... that was before she spent all that money and is now having to try to kiss and make up with the fans she despises.
 

Bustem' Down

Give Peas a Chance
Bruzilla said:
In case no one's noticed, a record debuting at number one quit being a big deal a few years ago.

Except that they are the only female group to have all of thier albums debut there. They're in a different genre now so everyone in country can stop complaining. Like I said, it's marketing, no matter how much you dislike them, they're still making a butt ton of money.
 

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Bustem' Down said:
Like I said, it's marketing, no matter how much you dislike them, they're still making a butt ton of money.
Just like Ann Coulter

:killingme

She's #1 on Amazon AND NYT.
 
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Bruzilla

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Bustem' Down said:
Except that they are the only female group to have all of thier albums debut there. They're in a different genre now so everyone in country can stop complaining. Like I said, it's marketing, no matter how much you dislike them, they're still making a butt ton of money.

Wow! The only female group to have all their albums debut at number 1! What an honor (although only their last two albums have earned that distinction)! So... that puts them at the top of a class that consists of how many other country girl groups? Expanding the number out from the country genre, they're soundly beaten The Go Gos and Bananarama. I too would be proud. :lmao:

Their latest album may have debuted at number 1, but quickly dropped to number 2. Now being number 2 can't be a bad thing can it? It can be when you're still at number two despite losing 25% of your album sales just over the past week. You gotta wonder how bad number 3 is if number 2 can lose a quarter of their sales and still be beating them. Artists that make a "butt ton of money" off album sales do it by hitting number 1 and staying there for several months. I would agree with you that they're on the fast track if their concerts were selling out like they used to as those are the best predictors of album sales, but with tour dates closing down you're not going to see any increases in album sales, only decreases - no matter how good their marketing is.

Also, don't forget Maine's comments about being able to quit country music because she's got the money to be able to do without it. Now she's had to eat crow and get back to work in a genre she hates. Makes one wonder why. My guess is the residuals aren't coming in like she thought they would, which means they aren't selling their older albums either.
 
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