Nailed it

[SamSpade]

See, and I'm the exact opposite, so we'd make a great talk show panel.

Generally I do follow the idea that it’s more likely stupidity than malice, because it is SO MUCH EASIER than planning and strategizing prolonged misery. Plus it’s still mostly true that if you continue that way - in any venue - the likelihood you’ll be kicked out or SHOT increases.

Geez, minimally ya gotta throw a bone.

I believe this is true in everyday life. People are just not going to bust their asses all day to screw with you. It’s just easier to ignore you.

Plus I’ve seen tyrants in the workplace and in cults. The very worst have convinced themselves they are actually doing good. They think they know what’s best for you and like a parent, they will ignore your opinion to do what they think is best for you.

It’s insane the way they think - Goebbels said of Hitler “really the Messiah or only John?”. They just don’t see it. Psychotic people think they’re doing good things.

 

[22AcaciaAve]

Generally I do follow the idea that it’s more likely stupidity than malice, because it is SO MUCH EASIER than planning and strategizing prolonged misery. Plus it’s still mostly true that if you continue that way - in any venue - the likelihood you’ll be kicked out or SHOT increases.

Geez, minimally ya gotta throw a bone.

I believe this is true in everyday life. People are just not going to bust their asses all day to screw with you. It’s just easier to ignore you.

Plus I’ve seen tyrants in the workplace and in cults. The very worst have convinced themselves they are actually doing good. They think they know what’s best for you and like a parent, they will ignore your opinion to do what they think is best for you.

It’s insane the way they think - Goebbels said of Hitler “really the Messiah or only John?”. They just don’t see it. Psychotic people think they’re doing good things.

It's funny that you say that. I think the same way about the Trump cult. Make no mistake, I agree with the MAGA movement. I'm all for a conservative program with putting America first. But Trump was a failure at pushing those beliefs. He had 2 years of control of Congress yet he could not push anything other than a tax change through. The proposed 4 point immigration plan should have been a no brainer. Instead he couldn't get it through, and then didn't have the stamina or attention span to threaten the republicans in congress who disagreed with it. Ronald Reagan would have taken it to the people and hammered the democrats over the head with it. People just don't see that Trump might have had the right ideas, but didn't have the skills to make them reality. I want the agenda, just from some new blood this time.

 

[vraiblonde]

It's funny that you say that. I think the same way about the Trump cult. Make no mistake, I agree with the MAGA movement. I'm all for a conservative program with putting America first. But Trump was a failure at pushing those beliefs. He had 2 years of control of Congress yet he could not push anything other than a tax change through. The proposed 4 point immigration plan should have been a no brainer. Instead he couldn't get it through, and then didn't have the stamina or attention span to threaten the republicans in congress who disagreed with it. Ronald Reagan would have taken it to the people and hammered the democrats over the head with it. People just don't see that Trump might have had the right ideas, but didn't have the skills to make them reality. I want the agenda, just from some new blood this time.

I don't even know what to say about this post and am mentally sputtering right now.

You and I were definitely not seeing the same thing. It was basically one man against the Democrats AND many Republicans AND the media AND Hollywood AND Big Tech ....and you blame him for not prevailing? You think Trump didn't take it to the people and hammer the Democrats? You think he didn't have stamina, and didn't go after Republicans who opposed him?



That's just amazing to me.

 

[Hijinx]

Trumps success's were Trumps. He got no help from other Republicans.
He wasn't one of them.
He didn't owe them anything. Politicians love other politicians who owe them favors.
When they get elected they expect their friends to be appointed to the gravy jobs, it's all a matter of you scratch my back, and i'll scratch yours. Trump didn't scratch their backs.

 

[PJay]

Trumps success's were Trumps. He got no help from other Republicans.
He wasn't one of them.
He didn't owe them anything. Politicians love other politicians who owe them favors.
When they get elected they expect their friends to be appointed to the gravy jobs, it's all a matter of you scratch my back, and i'll scratch yours. Trump didn't scratch their backs.

He exposed them all. I find it very sad that some can't appreciate that.

 

[SamSpade]

At this point I realize that if you don’t have a filibuster proof Senate - you never “have” Congress. I don’t know all the Senate rules - what can be passed with 51 and what a filibuster can stop. But without the ability to just run whatever you want - as the Democrats are learning - you’re not going to advance your agenda.

I actually do agree with how the filibuster works ; it bothers me that it is called anti-Democratic because it stops decisions that wind up 50% plus ONE. Anti-democratic means the people DON’T decide - but Democratic doesn’t mean it’s 50% plus one or nothing. Frankly big decisions OUGHT to require big buy-in. 60% is still the people deciding. It just requires a higher bar. It usually requires a bit of deal-making and compromise. Sadly in our current political climate, compromise is anathema to the party faithful. Anything not 100% their own is poisonous.

As DeeJay observed -Trump was often going it alone -having to square off against the press, social media, the Democrats and members of his own party.

 

[GURPS]

I hope Thunberg is shivering in the dark this winter

 

[Kyle]

How dare you!