Never Trump Scholars DEMANDING Trump Be BANNED From Ballots Over DISQUALIFICATION

BOP

BOP

Well-Known Member
As Donald Trump fights a mountain of criminal charges, a separate battle over his eligibility to run for president in 2024 is fast emerging.

The US constitution sets out just a handful of explicit requirements someone must meet to be the president. They must be at least 35 years old, a “natural-born” citizen, and a United States resident for at least 14 years. The constitution also bars someone who has served as president for two full terms from running again.

www.theguardian.com

Could Trump be barred under the constitution’s ‘engaged in insurrection’ clause?

Experts suggest language in section 3 of 14th amendment is ‘actually very clearcut’ and could mean disqualification
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com


Also see:

 
Ken King

Ken King

A little rusty but not crusty
PREMO Member
These supposed scholars need to turn in their degrees. Here is the text of section 3 -
14th Amendment, Section 3 - No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any state legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any state, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
Click to expand...
If the amendment was meant to apply to the President it would say so, just like it does for other elected officials like Senators and Representatives, as they too are not officers of the United States.
 
Ken King

Ken King

A little rusty but not crusty
PREMO Member
StmarysCity79 said:
Interesting you cut out the part where the lawyers pushing this theory are all Republicans.
Click to expand...
Hey Dumbass, yeah you. Its right in the title. Are you so dumb that you don't know that Never Trumpers is a Republican movement?
 
Ken King

Ken King

A little rusty but not crusty
PREMO Member
StmarysCity79 said:
Nothing they have ever done qualifies them as never Trumpers other than interpret the constitution which you've probably never even read.
Click to expand...
You mean nothing other than them saying that they are Never Trump. And it is painfully obvious that you have never read the Constitution, especially the XIV Amendment.
 
SamSpade

SamSpade

Well-Known Member
PREMO Member
I'm not sure if I'm amused or irritated that the word "insurrection" is used to describe a handful of unarmed doofuses who walked into the Capitol - where the doors were HELD OPEN FOR THEM - after the barricades had been pushed aside by Capitol police - videos of them slow walking through the Rotunda taking selfies - the QAnon Shaman being peacefully walked about -

You know, sort of the idea of an "insurrection" is the violent take over and a threat to the nation's government. I've seen a LOT of video. Like the BLM protests - it was "mostly peaceful". Like the protest in Tulsa.

I'd call it - a riot. Because there IS a situation where STATES have insurrections - you know - mobs taking over the STATE Capitol - and that's happened OFTEN in the last 10-15 years - and no one's calling THAT an "insurrection".

The biggest - "insurrection" - in our history is probably the draft riots during the Civil War. We call them "riots". Because they were violent mob uprisings, with no agenda - just pissed off people.

_________________________________________________________________

The word is ONLY USED because it can be used as a club against Trump. NO OTHER REASON. Otherwise, most of the BLM violent protests could be called insurrections - a lot more were killed, a lot more were injured and a lot more property destroyed.
 
Hijinx

Hijinx

Well-Known Member
These F'ing people are not going to be happy until they cause an insurrection.
A real insurrection where firearms and violence other than a Capitol Police Officer murdering a veteran is involved.

As a Republican myself I am just about ready to kick some Never-Trumpers asses.
Traitors to the country and the party, they need to be invited to leave the party.
 
Ken King

Ken King

A little rusty but not crusty
PREMO Member
Hijinx said:
Traitors to the country and the party, they need to be invited to leave the party.
Click to expand...
Its time the parties are kicked out of politics, they are the majority of what ails this nation. Let the candidates build their own constituency void of all the labels and accompanying shenanigans. Let the representatives serve their people or states.
 
S

StmarysCity79

Well-Known Member
Ken King said:
You mean nothing other than them saying that they are Never Trump. And it is painfully obvious that you have never read the Constitution, especially the XIV Amendment.
Click to expand...


It's funny you guys have words like never Trump and Rhino to describe your own party when all you mean is people who want to follow the rules and laws of this country.

You think you have a better understanding of the constitution than people who have dedicated their lives to studying it?
 
S

StmarysCity79

Well-Known Member
SamSpade said:
I'm not sure if I'm amused or irritated that the word "insurrection" is used to describe a handful of unarmed doofuses who walked into the Capitol - where the doors were HELD OPEN FOR THEM - after the barricades had been pushed aside by Capitol police - videos of them slow walking through the Rotunda taking selfies - the QAnon Shaman being peacefully walked about -

You know, sort of the idea of an "insurrection" is the violent take over and a threat to the nation's government. I've seen a LOT of video. Like the BLM protests - it was "mostly peaceful". Like the protest in Tulsa.

I'd call it - a riot. Because there IS a situation where STATES have insurrections - you know - mobs taking over the STATE Capitol - and that's happened OFTEN in the last 10-15 years - and no one's calling THAT an "insurrection".

The biggest - "insurrection" - in our history is probably the draft riots during the Civil War. We call them "riots". Because they were violent mob uprisings, with no agenda - just pissed off people.

_________________________________________________________________

The word is ONLY USED because it can be used as a club against Trump. NO OTHER REASON. Otherwise, most of the BLM violent protests could be called insurrections - a lot more were killed, a lot more were injured and a lot more property destroyed.
Click to expand...


The point you are missing is there was no organized plan to cause chaos and disrupt a federal proceeding with the intent to stop an election.

BLM doesn't have a head and didn't go out with the plan to disrupt an election.

Trump and his cronies did. See the fake elector scheme.
 
Ken King

Ken King

A little rusty but not crusty
PREMO Member
StmarysCity79 said:
It's funny you guys have words like never Trump and Rhino to describe your own party when all you mean is people who want to follow the rules and laws of this country.
Click to expand...
They came up with that term themselves, they said they were "The Never Trump Movement".
StmarysCity79 said:
You think you have a better understanding of the constitution than people who have dedicated their lives to studying it?
Click to expand...
Haven't said that, but I'm pretty sure that the words of the XIV Amendment never mention that it applies to the President while it does mention other elected officials.
 
S

StmarysCity79

Well-Known Member
Ken King said:
They came up with that term themselves, they said they were "The Never Trump Movement".

Haven't said that, but I'm pretty sure that the words of the XIV Amendment never mention that it applies to the President while it does mention other elected officials.
Click to expand...


It's funny you don't say he didn't participate in insurrection but instead say the president wouldn't count.

Despite him being subject under the following "or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States,"
 
Kinnakeet

Kinnakeet

Well-Known Member
StmarysCity79 said:
The point you are missing is there was no organized plan to cause chaos and disrupt a federal proceeding with the intent to stop an election.

BLM doesn't have a head and didn't go out with the plan to disrupt an election.

Trump and his cronies did. See the fake elector scheme.
Click to expand...
How did anyone try to disrupt an election.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top