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Kyle

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Report Warns: China Can ‘Weaponize’ Electric Vehicles to Wreck the West

Risks Come into Focus After Hezbollah Pager Sabotage

Chinese Electric Vehicles Could Be ‘Weaponised’ by Beijing, Report Warns


The British government’s open-doors approach to electric vehicles from Communist China threatens to undercut domestic manufacturing and expose the country to national security risks, with a think tank warning that EVs could be “weaponised” by Beijing.

A report from the China Strategic Risks Institute (CSRI) warned that the growing market share of and dependency on Chinese-made electric vehicles in Britain presents both “economic and security risks” to the United Kingdom.

The report noted that the UK’s domestic car industry is responsible for 198,000 manufacturing jobs, representing 2.5 per cent of the country’s entire GDP.

However, given Communist China’s subsidization of its burgeoning EV sector, producing an excess of five to ten million cheaply-produced cars per year, the failure by Westminster to impose import restrictions will threaten the future of British car manufacturing.





Not to mention that they export food and medicines into contries that they would seek to poison. ( And of course, thanks to greedy pols and lazy oversight, we don't test #### that comes in. )
 
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Kyle

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the accusations has been out for years that ' smart ' vehicles are susceptible to hacking
Then all the creators of the China Virus need to do is start weaving undetectable explosive material into the machine....
 

GURPS

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Then all the creators of the China Virus need to do is start weaving undetectable explosive material into the machine....

Why, the Gov already MANDATES Explosives in the steering wheel ... replace the air bag with a shaped charge
 

Bare-ya-cuda

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Report Warns: China Can ‘Weaponize’ Electric Vehicles to Wreck the West

Risks Come into Focus After Hezbollah Pager Sabotage

Chinese Electric Vehicles Could Be ‘Weaponised’ by Beijing, Report Warns


The British government’s open-doors approach to electric vehicles from Communist China threatens to undercut domestic manufacturing and expose the country to national security risks, with a think tank warning that EVs could be “weaponised” by Beijing.

A report from the China Strategic Risks Institute (CSRI) warned that the growing market share of and dependency on Chinese-made electric vehicles in Britain presents both “economic and security risks” to the United Kingdom.

The report noted that the UK’s domestic car industry is responsible for 198,000 manufacturing jobs, representing 2.5 per cent of the country’s entire GDP.

However, given Communist China’s subsidization of its burgeoning EV sector, producing an excess of five to ten million cheaply-produced cars per year, the failure by Westminster to impose import restrictions will threaten the future of British car manufacturing.





Not to mention that they export food and medicines into contries that they would seek to poison. ( And of course, thanks to greedy pols and lazy oversight, we don't test #### that comes in. )
All china has to do is stop shipping their cheap junk that our stores shelves are stocked with and the good ole USA will implode. Look what we did with TP in 2020. Imagine there being nothing to buy American will turn on each other.
 

vraiblonde

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So anyway, this is why we need to bring manufacturing back home and stop buying foreign crap.

I never understand that. We raise chickens here, ship them overseas to be processed, ship them back here for sale....and somehow that's cheaper than just processing them here?
 

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Hijinx

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If they can blow up a pager battery they can blow up a EV battery.
What is frightening is all of the chips that are Chinese and in our fighters, and military planes.
 
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glhs837

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the accusations has been out for years that ' smart ' vehicles are susceptible to hacking

Been researchers doing stuff for years, but it's always something about having to have physical access to plant something. Been no real world cases I've ever heard of.

If they can blow up a pager battery they can blow up a EV battery.
What is frightening is all of the chips that are Chinese and in our fighters, and military planes.

Nah, not so easy. These device explosions are not just batteries. It's real explosive compounds embedded in the device. Not that easy to get an EV battery to explode. Best you can usually do is rip the pack open with a huge force like a bridge abutment at 100+, which sparks a fire and sends flaming batteries everywhere.

As for the chips, there's entire programs devoted to seeking those out and making sure we don't get them in the first place.
 

GregV814

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So anyway, this is why we need to bring manufacturing back home and stop buying foreign crap.

I never understand that. We raise chickens here, ship them overseas to be processed, ship them back here for sale....and somehow that's cheaper than just processing them here?
you know the answer. Its because some corporations are receiving "referral fees" from other Nations for the service, the corporations funnel the new income to their favorite politician, who allows the company to do more, "expansion"..
 

somdwatch

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Just think, if the car is exposed to salt water it catches fire and burns underwater. What would happen should they find a way to just make a car battery go BOOM in a parking lot.
 

GURPS

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🔥🔥 Paging Dr. Abdul! Sorry, I couldn’t help it. Yesterday, Lebanon’s mysterious erupting electronics encounters expanded, when thousands of walkie-talkies also became infected and blew up. The Wall Street Journal ran a querulous article headlined, “How Did Thousands of Pagers Used by Hezbollah Explode at the Same Time?” As we’ve learned, whenever a headline poses a question, that question will not be answered. And it wasn’t.


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For some reason, maybe because their batteries were bigger, Hezbollah’s handheld radios were more explosive than the pagers, causing a lot more damage, killing more militants, and making the rest of the squad nervous as cats around a new puppy.

Yesterday, corporate media irresponsibly speculated that Israel’s military, the IDF, sneakily injected liquid explosives into Hezbollah’s pagers which somehow merged into the little pager computer or something. They’re just guessing.

Then the question was how. The bursting pagers were initially traced to a Taiwanese company called Gold Apollo. The Journal doesn’t say how it found that out, attributing that fact only to “early reports.”

That began a game of international hot potato. Or hot pager. Very hot.

Gold Apollo has put up a public service note on its home page, in large font, saying please don’t murder them, they only licensed the brand name; the pagers were actually made by a subcontractor called BAC Consulting Kft, registered in Budapest, Hungary in 2022.

The Journal checked and reported nobody is answering the phone over at BAC, for some reason. But the paper quoted Hungarian officials who deny the pagers were ever in Hungary. Then it got even murkier. The Journal next reported that Gold Apollo’s records show it has exported around 260,000 pagers since 2022, but none of those were shipped to anyone in Lebanon.

In other words, if Hezbollah —a designated terror organization— did buy the pagers, it was through a disguised middleman somewhere outside Lebanon. Hezbollah doesn’t just phone up suppliers and say, “Hi, this is Hezbollah calling! Can we get some electronics, please?”

This circled us right back to the corporate media beginning—were the exploding pagers even Gold Apollo pagers in the first place? Even if the company was in on it, cooperating with the IDF, how would Gold Apollo know which middleman to send the explosive pagers to? Worse for the struggling narrative, yesterday’s wave of attacks struck walkie-talkies, which the Journal said all had recently gotten new batteries. Batteries that were neither made by Gold Apollo or BAC Consulting.


If your head is spinning, you are on the right track. The Journal’s suggested rigged pager explanation has only moved the mystery one square over.

The article ended lamely, trying to reassure us but failing. How could they reassure anybody, since they still don’t know how it was done? Check out the generous sprinkling of weasel words in this paragraph:


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We’re still in the hot takes phase. But most commenters concluded that the nature of modern warfare may have changed forever this week. Others, looking just a tiny bit further ahead, are asking whether these electronic attacks are intended to soften Hezbollah up for the real attack to follow.

Meanwhile, the Journal mentioned the Biden Administration still remains hopeful the CIA can deliver that endless peace deal with Hamas in Gaza, any day now. I’m not making that up. They can be quite optimistic when they want to.



 

Merlin99

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Been researchers doing stuff for years, but it's always something about having to have physical access to plant something. Been no real world cases I've ever heard of.



Nah, not so easy. These device explosions are not just batteries. It's real explosive compounds embedded in the device. Not that easy to get an EV battery to explode. Best you can usually do is rip the pack open with a huge force like a bridge abutment at 100+, which sparks a fire and sends flaming batteries everywhere.

As for the chips, there's entire programs devoted to seeking those out and making sure we don't get them in the first place.
I'm surprised that an airport scanner hadn't picked up one and given the whole show away.
 

Merlin99

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They should have used the pagers that you could leave a short audio message on and then turned the audio down to about 2. that way they have to hold it up to their ear to hear it.

 

glhs837

Power with Control
Just think, if the car is exposed to salt water it catches fire and burns underwater. What would happen should they find a way to just make a car battery go BOOM in a parking lot.

You answered your own question. EV batteries don't explode. If the few instances where they appear to have exploded, its always part of a huge high energy crash. Now, could the sneaky Chinese be putting real explosives into export EV battery packs? Possible, but very unlikely IMO. All it takes in one company or individual to do teardown like Sandy Munroe, or others, and find it. Then your entire multi billion dollar national investment in battery and auto production is shat away in that instance.

I'm surprised that an airport scanner hadn't picked up one and given the whole show away.

So, what airlines do you have over in that part of the world? And these guys are not really flying any airline that has countermeasures in place, I dont think.

🔥🔥 Paging Dr. Abdul! Sorry, I couldn’t help it. Yesterday, Lebanon’s mysterious erupting electronics encounters expanded, when thousands of walkie-talkies also became infected and blew up. The Wall Street Journal ran a querulous article headlined, “How Did Thousands of Pagers Used by Hezbollah Explode at the Same Time?” As we’ve learned, whenever a headline poses a question, that question will not be answered. And it wasn’t.


image.png


For some reason, maybe because their batteries were bigger, Hezbollah’s handheld radios were more explosive than the pagers, causing a lot more damage, killing more militants, and making the rest of the squad nervous as cats around a new puppy.

Yesterday, corporate media irresponsibly speculated that Israel’s military, the IDF, sneakily injected liquid explosives into Hezbollah’s pagers which somehow merged into the little pager computer or something. They’re just guessing.

Then the question was how. The bursting pagers were initially traced to a Taiwanese company called Gold Apollo. The Journal doesn’t say how it found that out, attributing that fact only to “early reports.”

That began a game of international hot potato. Or hot pager. Very hot.

Gold Apollo has put up a public service note on its home page, in large font, saying please don’t murder them, they only licensed the brand name; the pagers were actually made by a subcontractor called BAC Consulting Kft, registered in Budapest, Hungary in 2022.

The Journal checked and reported nobody is answering the phone over at BAC, for some reason. But the paper quoted Hungarian officials who deny the pagers were ever in Hungary. Then it got even murkier. The Journal next reported that Gold Apollo’s records show it has exported around 260,000 pagers since 2022, but none of those were shipped to anyone in Lebanon.

In other words, if Hezbollah —a designated terror organization— did buy the pagers, it was through a disguised middleman somewhere outside Lebanon. Hezbollah doesn’t just phone up suppliers and say, “Hi, this is Hezbollah calling! Can we get some electronics, please?”

This circled us right back to the corporate media beginning—were the exploding pagers even Gold Apollo pagers in the first place? Even if the company was in on it, cooperating with the IDF, how would Gold Apollo know which middleman to send the explosive pagers to? Worse for the struggling narrative, yesterday’s wave of attacks struck walkie-talkies, which the Journal said all had recently gotten new batteries. Batteries that were neither made by Gold Apollo or BAC Consulting.


If your head is spinning, you are on the right track. The Journal’s suggested rigged pager explanation has only moved the mystery one square over.

The article ended lamely, trying to reassure us but failing. How could they reassure anybody, since they still don’t know how it was done? Check out the generous sprinkling of weasel words in this paragraph:


image 2.png


We’re still in the hot takes phase. But most commenters concluded that the nature of modern warfare may have changed forever this week. Others, looking just a tiny bit further ahead, are asking whether these electronic attacks are intended to soften Hezbollah up for the real attack to follow.

Meanwhile, the Journal mentioned the Biden Administration still remains hopeful the CIA can deliver that endless peace deal with Hamas in Gaza, any day now. I’m not making that up. They can be quite optimistic when they want to.




I do wish everyone would stop with this notion that the batteries were part of the explosions, unless as trigger voltage. The brisance alone tells you this was NOT a battery event. Look at batteries gone bad in small devices. Burns are what you get. A well sealed device will expand until it pops the case. Even were they pagers made of metal and well sealed, the pressure rise from an overheating battery would just pop the weakest seem, not shatter them. .
 
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