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Kyle

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I'd recommend getting something that had oil or gas backup so your house will actually be warm on cold days.

I've lived with a heat pump system with electric backup before and it's only good for running up the bill.
 

Kinnakeet

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Reversing valve is the part the reverses the flow of refrigerant in the winter time

I'd recommend getting something that had oil or gas backup so your house will actually be warm on cold days.

I've lived with a heat pump system with electric backup before and it's only good for running up the bill.
Heat pumps now put out hot air..but gas/propane backup is a good idea...oil is to messy
 

phreddyp

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Reversing valve is the part the reverses the flow of refrigerant in the winter time to make heat, the indoor fan and outdoor fan run in the same direction all the time. it would be cheaper to replace that ( reversing valve) then change the outdoor unit, as far as lasting another year if done correctly it should last longer.Look up the prices for a reversing valve verses a new outdoor unit or a whole new system but if your system is old and you have the money get a new system as you wont be dissapointed with modern tech. it is awesome!
If it is the reversing valve. That is not a cheap fix !
 

Clem72

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Heat pumps now put out hot air..but gas/propane backup is a good idea...oil is to messy
Unless you get one with an HSPF greater than 10 you aren't getting "hot" air, and not even luke warm when the temp drops into the teens. When I was last looking (4 years ago) none of the local guys carried any of the heat pumps that focus on heat more than cooling.

Gong from 18 SEER to 24 SEER might save you $20 a year, going from 7 HSPF to 10 HSPF might save you $200-$300.
 

Kinnakeet

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Unless you get one with an HSPF greater than 10 you aren't getting "hot" air, and not even luke warm when the temp drops into the teens. When I was last looking (4 years ago) none of the local guys carried any of the heat pumps that focus on heat more than cooling.

Gong from 18 SEER to 24 SEER might save you $20 a year, going from 7 HSPF to 10 HSPF might save you $200-$300.
Mine is puts out hot air(to me) until it gets below 30* below that the propane backup comes on.when I had our house 22 years ago it came with a 12 seer outdoor unit and a 90 plus indoor unit(propane) with a outdoor stat which I had set at 45 when I got my first propane bill I dropped it to 35 when it went out 3 years ago I bought a new unit and indoor coil from Aireco and kept the old furnace and it works great gas does not come on until it gets below 30.The hspf is going to be used in 2023 from what I have read the DOE said so so you better obey...lol...and the new unit has saved me way more than 20 dollars a year.
 
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BOP

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Hopefully he has gas for backup
I have a propane-powered double boiler. One side heats potable water; the other side heats for emergency heat. I've only used it once in 6 or 7 years, but much better than the electric backup. In our case, someone had disabled it, probably because it caused our meter to spin like a top.
 

Clem72

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Mine is puts out hot air(to me) until it gets below 30* below that the propane backup comes on.when I had our house 22 years ago it came with a 12 seer outdoor unit and a 90 plus indoor unit(propane) with a outdoor stat which I had set at 45 when I got my first propane bill I dropped it to 35 when it went out 3 years ago I bought a new unit and indoor coil from Aireco and kept the old furnace and it works great gas does not come on until it gets below 30.The hspf is going to be used in 2023 from what I have read the DOE said so so you better obey...lol...and the new unit has saved me way more than 20 dollars a year.
Propane backup is probably the best solution if you live where it regularly goes below freezing, rather than rely on electric heating backup.

It's nice that the air feels hot when it is above 30 out. My entire point about the HSPF is how hot the air is when the temps are low outside. All heat pumps work when it's above freezing. But if you want a heat pump to work at 20 degrees, or 10, or 0 then that HSPF rating becomes important.

And I think you missed my point on the SEER. Going from your 12 to a more modern number (16/18/20+) is a huge jump, but going from 18-24 isn't very big at all. you get diminishing returns the higher you go. The same is true for HSPF ratings, but given how low they are right now every single point is important. Going from an 8 to a 10 will make the different between a usable heatpump when it's 10 degrees out and having to use backup heating. Not a big deal if your backup is propane, but a very big deal if you are using heat registers.
 

rio

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Sorry for the delay. I was actually going to compliment the awesome service that I received today. I called Tennyson's HVAC as recommended . Bobby answered the phone and gave me a window as to his arrival. He made it to our house at the beginning of the window. He spent quite a bit of time looking over the system. It turns out it was an inexpensive fix. While he was here, he checked the entire system. He found a couple of things and fixed what was needed.

Now, on an unrelated event, I had to call 911 about 90 minutes later for a possible electrical panel fire. Kudos to Mechanicsville VFD for quick response. A quick scan with a thermal device revealed nothing in the walls or attic. Also, hats off to SMECO. They were notified and responded quickly, pulling the meter. I was able to get an electrician to come by and replace the damaged part. We now have a safe electrical panel and a warm and toasty house. Thank you to everyone involved, including some awesome neighbors.
My AC is out, so I'm thinking of calling Tennyson. I've also heard Winter's is good. Anyone used them?
 

lucky_bee

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My AC is out, so I'm thinking of calling Tennyson. I've also heard Winter's is good. Anyone used them?
We used Winter's a couple times. Ended up with I think, the owner's son. Very knowledgeable, respectful, and quick. I wanna say we needed a part, and it was ordered and he was back the very next day with it. He accidentally made a mess with cleaning something out and he had the space cleaner than he found it by the time he was done. My husband's cheap and prefers to do the work himself when he can, but whatever was wrong was beyond his abilities. He didn't have much to grumble about and would definitely call them again.
 
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