Noah's Ark rests in Iran?

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Give Peas a Chance
2ndAmendment said:
The question is, if a 600 foot wooden boat was found on Mt. Ararat, would people believe the account of Noah? I think probably not, because if they did, they would then have to admit that there had been a world wide flood and that leads to the position that God caused the flood. Which leads to God is real, the Bible is true, and people must believe in Jesus as Savior and Lord or take a position with satan.
No, it would mean that something in the Old Testament, the Torah, was true and therefore validate Judaism.
 

PJay

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and by the way, Dr. Bob Cornuke has not said this is the ark.

I think it's interesting tho.
 

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Homesick said:
I like you, you're a pretty cool dude.
Well, I like history, not matter what it is. While I don't believe that the Ark story is true myself, I do believe that it, like the other stories of the Old Testament are based on some sort of factual historical event.
 

wxtornado

The Other White Meat
Homesick said:
and by the way, Dr. Bob Cornuke has not said this is the ark.

I think it's interesting tho.

Indeed, it's a very interesting article. It would get way more interesting if his find was tested and found to be an old boat!
 

wxtornado

The Other White Meat
Bustem' Down said:
Well, I like history, not matter what it is. While I don't believe that the Ark story is true myself, I do believe that it, like the other stories of the Old Testament are based on some sort of factual historical event.

Absolutely! The biblical flood story was probably derived from the Sumerian writings of Giglamesh. The Old Testament basically imitated the myths and stories common to the region where the earliest Jews dwelled, southern Iraq, exactly where the Sumerian city-states ruled.

The story was that of a local flood, as the Tigris and Euphrates frequently flooded the region.
 

migtig

aka Mrs. Giant
Bustem' Down said:
No, it would mean that something in the Old Testament, the Torah, was true and therefore validate Judaism.
Actually the great flood story has gone under several revises before making the Old Testament - so if we follow this line of logic it would make paganism valid. :shrug:
Research the following
Sumerian myth of Ziusudra
The epic of Atrahasis
Epic of Gilgames
Greek mythology- Deucalion
India - the story of Manu and Vishnu
Yima in Zoroastrian
 

Bustem' Down

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migtig said:
Actually the great flood story has gone under several revises before making the Old Testament - so if we follow this line of logic it would make paganism valid. :shrug:
Research the following
Sumerian myth of Ziusudra
The epic of Atrahasis
Epic of Gilgames
Greek mythology- Deucalion
India - the story of Manu and Vishnu
Yima in Zoroastrian
Absolutly. The same stories are told over and over in many different religions. They are basic morality tales.
 

migtig

aka Mrs. Giant
Bustem' Down said:
Absolutly. The same stories are told over and over in many different religions. They are basic morality tales.
Yep. Just like my momma used to say "I brought you into this world I can take you out". Act right or the gods or G-d will wipe u out.
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
BuddyLee said:
Where did the Noah story take place? I mean, how could one man, or even a group of men gather up two of every single animal and cram them all into a 600 foot wooden boat?:twitch:
The account of the flood and ark are in Genesis chapters 6, 7, and 8. We are talking about a ship, not a boat. The ark was about the size of a World War II aircraft carrier. It was 300 cubits long, 50 cubits wide, and 30 cubits high; a cubit is about 18 inches so more correctly, it was about 450 feet long. It had three decks. And Noah had a long time to build the ark. He was 600 when he entered the ark with his wife, sons, and their wives. The ark was covered with pitch on the inside and out. Pitch is like the creosote that is used to coat telephone poles. Telephone poles last a long time with one end buried in the ground. And don't take God our of the equation. God is the Creator and Master of the universe; He can certainly round up a few animals.

I heard that some U.S. Naval ship architects at the David Taylor Model Basin made a scale model of the ark according to the dimensions given in the Bible. They subjected it to the largest waves the basin could generate and the model ark stayed upright and stable. Turns out that the dimensions of the ark produce an extremely stable ship, not fast, but stable; it had no propulsion anyway.
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
Bustem' Down said:
No, it would mean that something in the Old Testament, the Torah, was true and therefore validate Judaism.
Duh. The God of the Jews is the God of Christians.

You proved my point. People are looking for any excuse not to believe in God, so they can go their merry way doing whatever they want with no consequences.
 

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2ndAmendment said:
Duh. The God of the Jews is the God of Christians.

You proved my point. People are looking for any excuse not to believe in God, so they can go their merry way doing whatever they want with no consequences.
Then why aren't Jews Christians?
 

wxtornado

The Other White Meat
2ndAmendment said:
I heard that some U.S. Naval ship architects at the David Taylor Model Basin made a scale model of the ark according to the dimensions given in the Bible. They subjected it to the largest waves the basin could generate and the model ark stayed upright and stable. Turns out that the dimensions of the ark produce an extremely stable ship, not fast, but stable; it had no propulsion anyway.

Source?
 

wxtornado

The Other White Meat
2ndAmendment said:
People are looking for any excuse not to believe in God, so they can go their merry way doing whatever they want with no consequences.

It would do an unbeliever no good to look for "excuses", because your omniscient God knew I wouldn't believe infinitely back in time before I was even born.
 

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wxtornado said:
It would do an unbeliever no good to look for "excuses", because your omniscient God knew I wouldn't believe infinitely back in time before I was even born.
Excuses are too much work, much easier to just not believe and not think about it.
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
migtig said:
Actually the great flood story has gone under several revises before making the Old Testament - so if we follow this line of logic it would make paganism valid. :shrug:
Research the following
Sumerian myth of Ziusudra
The epic of Atrahasis
Epic of Gilgames
Greek mythology- Deucalion
India - the story of Manu and Vishnu
Yima in Zoroastrian
Bustem' Down said:
Absolutly. The same stories are told over and over in many different religions. They are basic morality tales.
I think you have it reversed. Paganism validates the account of Noah's flood. It is pure logic that since after the flood the entire world was populated by the descendants of the 8 people that survived the flood. It only makes sense that every culture would have the account of the great flood.
 
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