NYT hacks Hegseth's private email; publishes private correspondence between him and his mother

[vraiblonde]

That's Low! New York Times Runs 'Despicable' Hit Piece on Pete Hegseth

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I don't understand how they can legally do this. Everyone is all hurdy gurdy about what was said, but apparently not smart enough to wonder how NYT obtained this email. THAT is the outrage.

Imagine the level of obsession it took to dig this up. That's some scary sht and everyone involved needs to die in prison.

 

[limblips]

Imagine the level of obsession it took to dig this up. That's some scary sht and everyone involved needs to die in prison.

FIFY. No sense in spending good money to imprison them.

 

[Monello]

The fact that they did this to him should concern anyone that has an email account. If they can do it to him, most likely, none of us are immune from having our privacy invaded this way. Doesn't matter if your email contains mostly banal drivel, you should expect a right to privacy. For a journalist to publish anything found from this intrusion is repulsive. The media are the new cyber paparazzi, using a written media as opposed to a visual one.

 

[Clem72]

The fact that they did this to him should concern anyone that has an email account. If they can do it to him, most likely, none of us are immune from having our privacy invaded this way. Doesn't matter if your email contains mostly banal drivel, you should expect a right to privacy. For a journalist to publish anything found from this intrusion is repulsive. The media are the new cyber paparazzi, using a written media as opposed to a visual one.

So why didn't you say all this about Hunter's laptop? Why is it bad to share a private e-mail that is embarrassing for a public figure (TV personality and part of a the president's cabinet makes you a public figure), but okay to share private e-mails, photos, texts, and videos of a private citizen?

Just playing devils advocate here.

 

[vraiblonde]

So why didn't you say all this about Hunter's laptop? Why is it bad to share a private e-mail that is embarrassing for a public figure (TV personality and part of a the president's cabinet makes you a public figure), but okay to share private e-mails, photos, texts, and videos of a private citizen?

Just playing devils advocate here.

Because your mom reaming you out isn't a crime, but laundering money and being a bagman for your Senator/VP/POTUS dad is. If you recall, that's why the laptop was important. The drugs and hookers and deviancy were just a bonus.

 

[Kyle]

So why didn't you say all this about Hunter's laptop? Why is it bad to share a private e-mail that is embarrassing for a public figure (TV personality and part of a the president's cabinet makes you a public figure), but okay to share private e-mails, photos, texts, and videos of a private citizen?

Just playing devils advocate here.

Because Hunter‘s laptop, when he didn’t pay for it and pick it up, became the property of the repair shop. Finding evidence of a crime Is reason. Personally emails aren’t.

completely different than hacking into a strangers electronic account.

 

[Hijinx]

Yes: The lap top actually was left by Hunter.
The mother sent this email bad mouthing her son ,and then sent a copy to Samantha --the wife ? he was divorcing.
The first one I would look to as a suspect who sent this to the low-life NYT reporter is the wife he divorced.

The mother pretty obviously took the side of the wife he was divorcing instead of her son, but at the time she stated her true feelings and now she is looking at screwing over her son and having second thoughts. Even if she sent a second email apologizing for the first, that cat is out of the bag.
When something like that happens it is sometimes forgiven, but never forgotten, but anyway his mother's angry thoughts of how he treated the wife she liked better than her son has nothing to do with his ability to do the job Trump offered to him.

 

[Monello]

So why didn't you say all this about Hunter's laptop? Why is it bad to share a private e-mail that is embarrassing for a public figure (TV personality and part of a the president's cabinet makes you a public figure), but okay to share private e-mails, photos, texts, and videos of a private citizen?

Just playing devils advocate here.

AFAIK, that laptop wasn't hacked into. It was left at a shop. Often after so many weeks, it becomes the property of the shop owner.

So while in both cases, personal emails were exposed, the method to obtain those emails were different.

Not sure if this is a good analogy but here goes. You have 2 homes. 1 you have bars on the windows, a super duper security system and a steel front door. The other home you take all the entry doors off the hinges. In 1 case, you were clearly trying to avoid an intrusion. In the other case, you weren't even trying to prevent unauthorized access.

 

[Clem72]

AFAIK, that laptop wasn't hacked into. It was left at a shop. Often after so many weeks, it becomes the property of the shop owner.

So while in both cases, personal emails were exposed, the method to obtain those emails were different.

First off, I just made the comparison because of how pearl clutching you got about an e-mail that was likely shared by one of the participants (sounds like the ex wife was CC'd on it, so I would think her).

What makes you think the e-mail was hacked? There's a remote possibility his e-mail was accessed with his password, but without his permission. That's not hacking, but it is illegal.

That said, while hunter's laptop was legally the property of the shop owner where he left it without paying his bill, the e-mails accessed via that laptop were likely still "in the cloud", and that would be the exact same type of unauthorized access.

So actually, the comparison is pretty direct and clear.

And your analogy is bunk. The shop owner owned the laptop, may or may not have been authorized to access the data (depends on the contract, but this probably wouldn't hold up in court as you can't own someone else's PII), but absolutely did not have the right to access online accounts connected to that laptop.

 

[WingsOfGold]

So why didn't you say all this about Hunter's laptop? Why is it bad to share a private e-mail that is embarrassing for a public figure (TV personality and part of a the president's cabinet makes you a public figure), but okay to share private e-mails, photos, texts, and videos of a private citizen?

Just playing devils advocate here.

Apples and oranges

 

[WingsOfGold]

First off, I just made the comparison because of how pearl clutching you got about an e-mail that was likely shared by one of the participants (sounds like the ex wife was CC'd on it, so I would think her).

What makes you think the e-mail was hacked? There's a remote possibility his e-mail was accessed with his password, but without his permission. That's not hacking, but it is illegal.

That said, while hunter's laptop was legally the property of the shop owner where he left it without paying his bill, the e-mails accessed via that laptop were likely still "in the cloud", and that would be the exact same type of unauthorized access.

So actually, the comparison is pretty direct and clear.

And your analogy is bunk. The shop owner owned the laptop, may or may not have been authorized to access the data (depends on the contract, but this probably wouldn't hold up in court as you can't own someone else's PII), but absolutely did not have the right to access online accounts connected to that laptop.

Theft for 1,000 maybe?

 

[Clem72]

Theft for 1,000 maybe?

Nope. Unauthorized access.

Unauthorized access to a system is a federal crime under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act (CFAA), which is codified in Title 18 U.S. Code § 1030. The CFAA prohibits accessing a computer without authorization or exceeding authorized access, especially if the intent is to defraud or cause damage.

And like I said, i'm not talking about the dirty pictures he had on his hard drive I am talking about the e-mails that were accessed using accounts stored on the laptop drive (unless you know anyone that downloads iCloud e-mails to their local drive, which I guarantee you that you do not).

 

[Chopticon64]

Interesting to see someone here trying to be rational in this situation and then the cultist come up with made up nonsense about email hacking.

Hegseth is pretty awful, just read the police reports.

But Trump picked him, Trump is God, we worship God.

 

[vraiblonde]

But Trump picked him, Trump is God, we worship God.

About time you straighten out and fly right

 

[WingsOfGold]

Nope. Unauthorized access.



And like I said, i'm not talking about the dirty pictures he had on his hard drive I am talking about the e-mails that were accessed using accounts stored on the laptop drive (unless you know anyone that downloads iCloud e-mails to their local drive, which I guarantee you that you do not).

LOL I wouldn't know where to start. Quit trying to figure it out when they got rid of dos

 

[vraiblonde]

(unless you know anyone that downloads iCloud e-mails to their local drive, which I guarantee you that you do not).

Uh, I do. I download my email to my laptop and it gets deleted on the server. Sure, it's in there somewhere, but not in my online "mailbox".

I'm not sure what you're arguing.

 

[Kyle]

Uh, I do. I download my email to my laptop and it gets deleted on the server. Sure, it's in there somewhere, but not in my online "mailbox".

I'm not sure what you're arguing.

Everyone forgot the days of good ole POP3.

 

[Clem72]

LOL I wouldn't know where to start. Quit trying to figure it out when they got rid of dos

Stay in your lane. Don't try to talk IT with me, and I won't try to discuss the finer points of offering BJ's behind Wendy's with you.

 

[Clem72]

Uh, I do. I download my email to my laptop and it gets deleted on the server. Sure, it's in there somewhere, but not in my online "mailbox".

I'm not sure what you're arguing.

You use and download your iCloud e-mail? Truly? You would be among the vast minority of people. I am not talking about saving PST files from Outlook, i'm talking about people who live on their apple devices and do everything in the cloud. People who are by and large not technically inclined. The people who are the reason the mouse for Mac computers only had 1 button for two decades, because a second button was too difficult.

 

[CPUSA]

Nope. Unauthorized access.



And like I said, i'm not talking about the dirty pictures he had on his hard drive I am talking about the e-mails that were accessed using accounts stored on the laptop drive (unless you know anyone that downloads iCloud e-mails to their local drive, which I guarantee you that you do not).

Your comments have Choppy showing you much love & respect...
That alone should convince you that your question was a douchey question & your responses are a re enforcement of such...

But hey...your parents said you could be whatever you wanted to be when you grew up...a douchebag just wouldn't be MY first choice, but I'm not you, either...