Obama favors same-sex union per "Sermon on Mt" ?

[PsyOps]

considering another being gay doesn't have any affect on you, i dont know how you would need to "defend yourself" against them.
I think it is you that is misrepresenting Jesus' command to "love", and to not "judge".

It was an analogy of how we are supposed to love that which we would typically reject or hate.

Your only purpose here is to spin my point out of context. We make judgments about people all the time. The person breaking into my house I have to make a judgment about his intentions and act on that to defend myself. If a gay guy hits on me I will make a judgment about that situation and how I will respond to that person. I reject their behavior as part of my life. Making judgments to that extent is part of what we, as Christians, have to do to stay on the straighy path. But I will never judge the person to the extent that, because of their lifestyles or choices, that they are going to hell. From that angle I love the person for them to accept God and live accordingly. This is what Jesus did.

 

[PsyOps]

That would be impossible, your faith in part defines your character and who you are, and it would be impossible for anyone to make decisions without thier faith coloring it. What is a no no is to try and make law that is specifically faith based, a christian prayer at public school, establishment of a state religion, etc. etc.

He's a christian and he's going to make decisions in office based on that and I have no problem with it. If I were in office, I would make decision based on the fact that I believe there is no suprememe being.

I suppose I should have put the sarcasm smilie in there. I agree a politician can't separate their faith from their deicision-making. But I find it pretty strange no big deal is being made about Obama citing the Bible as a means to promote policy. If this was anyone from the GOP everyone (especially in the media) would be screaming "Separation of church and state..."

 

[tommyjones]

It was an analogy of how we are supposed to love that which we would typically reject or hate.

OK, you are almost there. Gays are typically hated and rejected.......

therefore, we should love gays.

its pretty simple. Jesus was saying if you dont like em, love em, just like the ones you do love.

 

[This_person]

Gays are typically hated and rejected.......

By whom? You're making a pretty broad accusation here, with virtually nothing to back it up. Much like you defend the vast majority of Muslims from being lumped with the minute minority that are terrorists, please don't lump the vast majority of Christians with that minute percentage that hate.

 

[tommyjones]

By whom? You're making a pretty broad accusation here, with virtually nothing to back it up. Much like you defend the vast majority of Muslims from being lumped with the minute minority that are terrorists, please don't lump the vast majority of Christians with that minute percentage that hate.

bwhahahahahaha

 

[Toxick]

By whom? You're making a pretty broad accusation here, with virtually nothing to back it up. Much like you defend the vast majority of Muslims from being lumped with the minute minority that are terrorists, please don't lump the vast majority of Christians with that minute percentage that hate.

Amen!



All blanket statements are false.

 

[This_person]

Amen!



All blanket statements are false.

 

[PsyOps]

OK, you are almost there. Gays are typically hated and rejected.......

therefore, we should love gays.

its pretty simple. Jesus was saying if you dont like em, love em, just like the ones you do love.

I'm almost where. Look, you can stop here. If you're trying to get me to say we should hate people because of their lifestyles, you're not going to get it. So you can stop leading this discussion in that direction.

When I say "we", I mean human nature.

Read my post again. I edited it.

 

[Solja_Boy]

This is great news. I would love to marry Obama one day.

 

[This_person]

Wait for it

If we haven't attacked that line yet, why do you think we'd start now?

 

[TRAVELWORX]

For my money (not speaking for other Christians), there's a big difference between a civil union and marriage. Again, as with so many things, it's a semantics thing, like calling a dog a cat. A civil union is not a marriage. "Render unto Ceasar...." If homosexuals want what they already have available to them (all of the "rights" of marriage are available in other forms), and they can recognize that it's not a marriage, then why not give it to them (other than the obvious questions of "why waste the time when there's no real advantage", "aren't there better things for the state legislatures to do with their time", "how would this translate from state to state", etc.) if it makes them feel better. After all, we waste time on smaller percentages of the population than the 2% or so that are homosexual, so it's really no different than other wastes of time.

I fully get why they want the rights of marriage... They are together as a couple and live as if they are , they should have them rights... Life is too hard as it is, I dont think there is anything wrong with a civil union....

 

[This_person]

I fully get why they want the rights of marriage... They are together as a couple and live as if they are , they should have them rights... Life is too hard as it is, I dont think there is anything wrong with a civil union....

The thing is, all of those rights exist in other forms. They want social acceptance, not "rights".

I say, it's a civil acceptance, not a personal one. Give it to them, and let them pay the higher tax rates, go through the divorces, have their credit screwed up by someone else, etc., etc.

 

[TRAVELWORX]

The thing is, all of those rights exist in other forms. They want social acceptance, not "rights".

I say, it's a civil acceptance, not a personal one. Give it to them, and let them pay the higher tax rates, go through the divorces, have their credit screwed up by someone else, etc., etc.

Oh im with ya give them the higher taxes and divorce like the rest of us, and when it comes to social acceptance, any President can vote any way they think they will get more votes but, its still the every day person who still will not accept it... My feelings are as long as you dont flaunt it in front of me and my children then do as you want.. I can choose as a person and a parent to leave a situation im not comfy with... I feel everyone has rights and I will never judge anyone for what they do.... God Bless