Ok, I really do love these two dogs....

SamSpade

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... and as soon as I can get pics up, I'll put them up. They drive me crazy, and after ten years of cats, I'm getting used to dogs again.

The female still has incontinence problems which we've learned ONLY happens when she's napping or lying down somewhere. Otherwise, she's conscientious enough to go outside and never goes inside on purpose. But because of that, we gave up on the downstairs carpet, removed it, revealing the tile floor that lurked underneath.

Since they chase each other endlessly - they're still puppies at 35-40 pounds and still getting used to the tile floor. Which means, when they come barrelling in full throttle through the doggie door down the hall, they arrive tumbling butt over tea kettle when they try to stop. They look a lot like those goonie birds you see on National Geographic specials that always crash land. They do this every single day; you'd think they'd get tired of it.

Last week, in an effort to curtail their constant chewing, I got a huge bag of dental rawhides - tougher than the stuff they usually get. The male wanted ALL of them. Every time we gave one to the female, he went over, took it away from her, and added it to his "pile". Since she's physically about TWICE as fast as he is over land and long enough distances, she's since learned the solution is to grab one and run like hell. Which is the next story --

She's learned that NOTHING gets his goat like knowing one of his rawhides is missing. He might not even be chewing it, but in his mind, they are ALL his, and he wants them. We have a big yard, and she plays keep away. She's fast enough that she can afford to rest, and wait for him to catch up. She usually runs looking over her shoulder to make sure he is still chasing her.

Yesterday, Bluejay and I were going out to brunch, and I went down to check on them. He was quietly napping, and I asked "where's your sister". I heard the click of the doggie door down the hall, and assumed she was coming in to jump all over me, as usual.

Nope.

Just more clicking. More clicking. I couldn't figure out what the hell she was doing. I went down the hall. There she was, with one of his rawhides, poking her head in and out of the door, wagging her tail. She was BAITING him - daring him to come chase her. She was saying "I knooooooow you wannnnnnt it - coooommmme and geeetttttt it".

Ok, this is why I do like dogs better. My cats almost never were this - animated.
 

happyappygirl

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If she's leaky while sleeping, that's an issue that may be a physical or hormonal defect, and will never go away.... :frown:
Great story BTW! It's tough when getting TWO at one time. They focus on each other rather than the people in their lives giving THEM the toe, :lol:
 

marianne

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SamSpade said:
The female still has incontinence problems which we've learned ONLY happens when she's napping or lying down somewhere. Otherwise, she's conscientious enough to go outside and never goes inside on purpose. But because of that, we gave up on the downstairs carpet, removed it, revealing the tile floor that lurked underneath.

A female rott we used to have had the same incontinence problem. The dogs were trained to stay on their beds, at least overnight. Needless to say we went through a lot of dog beds. We ended up getting a "sleep pee" bed for her which made things a lot easier.
 
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WildHorses

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You have a way with words, thanks for making my heart smile. :flowers:
 

SamSpade

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marianne said:
A female rott we used to have had the same incontinence problem. The dogs were trained to stay on their beds, at least overnight. Needless to say we went through a lot of dog beds. We ended up getting a "sleep pee" bed for her which made things a lot easier.

How does that work? We'd LOVE for her to solve this problem. As it is, we can't put her on our laps, let her on the couch or up on our bed with us - because we've DONE that, and she's peed. When she rests on the floor, she gets up with a wet backside - which means restrained lovin' on the puppy. A real "eeewww" moment. I'm having a hard time believing it's psychological, but I can see how it might be - she might just not be able to tell when the pee is coming, the way a toddler doesn't.

On the other hand - she never pees indoors on purpose - you know, walk around and squat. She goes outside. So I know she's trying. We take her out for a pee just before bedtime, but she never goes. Her brother does, like clockwork. Since she knows that bedtime comes right after pee, and that means doggie treats, she goes out for about ten seconds and runs right back inside wagging her tail near the treat jar.

Is it possible she's wet her bed so often, she's not trying to get away from the pee anymore? Right now, if we crate her, she just gets wet. It has no effect on her holding her urine.
 

Sadysue

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Awesome story.
What kind of dogs are they?

I think they have pills you can give her once a day for that. I had a boston terrier that had that problem when she got old. Their muscles get weak and the don't know they are going. Every surface she slept on was covered in plastic.

Good luck to you, she sounds like a sweetie.
 
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starr

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My female has the same problem. She is on Proin (sp?). Once a day pills that work for her.
 

marianne

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SamSpade said:
How does that work? We'd LOVE for her to solve this problem... Is it possible she's wet her bed so often, she's not trying to get away from the pee anymore? Right now, if we crate her, she just gets wet. It has no effect on her holding her urine.

Our dog developed her incontinence problem later in life. We chalked it up to one of the many problems you have with an elderly dog. She never peed purposefully in the house. But if she fell asleep you would see a small puddle forming behind/beneath her. I hate to say we were never able to "solve" the problem; we just deal with it the best we could her last few years. Being that you have a puppy and not an older dog, I'd suggest talking with your vet. She might have an infection or urinary tract problem, especially if there appears to be redness/irritation.
 

SamSpade

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appyday said:
Sam is this a spayed female that pees in her sleep? I had a Dobe that did that..the vets gave her a horomone shot that strengthened her bladder muscles and it worked for about a year..I had her done yearly..sorry it was many years ago and I forget what it was...check into it..

My wife said that was the vet's recommendation - yes, it's a spayed female. Ok, then we will have to check into that.

It had to be done every year? It was never permanent?
 

SamSpade

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Homesick said:
How about diapers?

My parents use diapers for their female, but it is unspayed. The problem we have is her brother will just rip them off (little brothers will do things like that).
 

SamSpade

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Sadysue said:
Awesome story.
What kind of dogs are they?

I think they have pills you can give her once a day for that. I had a boston terrier that had that problem when she got old. Their muscles get weak and the don't know they are going. Every surface she slept on was covered in plastic.

Good luck to you, she sounds like a sweetie.

They're both shepherd mixes - both of them have floppy ears that look like they will never go up. He's husky and broad, like he has bulldog in him, but he otherwise looks like a brown shepherd. And he acts like a big strong dog - trots like a tank, hops up and down on his front paws when excited, and has a deep low bark. If he sang music, he'd be Barry White. I nickname him "Bruiser" because that's what he is. He's strong but he doesn't run fast. By comparison his sister is part shepherd but has the more dobe black and brown coloring - same floppy ears - and a more sleek body. She is VERY fast, and when grown would probably give a whippet a run for her money. Going full speed she can dodge and turn on a dime - which is funny, because when he chases her and tries one of those Mach 2 turns, he just rolls over.

I'll tell my wife about the pills. We were giving her an antibiotic the vet recommended, and we had to roll it in cheese every night - and of course, he got one too, without the pill. You just can't give **CHEESE** to one dog and not the other - they'll get *issues*.
 

SamSpade

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Some early pics of the little boogers...
 

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SamSpade

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mv_princess said:
aawww they are ssssssooooo cute!!!

The one of her sleeping is one of my favorites - it's like it's saying "I'm tired, I had a rough day tearing this place to pieces".

Unfortunately, these are already a couple months old, and they both look more dog-like and less puppy-like - longer muzzles, less fuzz, head and feet more proportional to the rest of the body. They grow up way too fast.
 
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angelphish

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We have a female puppy in a foster home that has an ectopic ureter problem that causes her to pee all the time. She has to have surgery to correct it.

Did you get these pups from the HSCC. They look familiar.
 
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