ok time to be serious...

[SmallTown]

One other difference is that many with accounting degrees only need/want an undergraduate degree, where as business and finance people tend to go on to grad school.
And quite often the financial people go a different route than accounting after school... Accounting majors tend to lean towards your typical business culture, while finance majors go more into banking and financial advising. The latter being where the finance majors begin to really distance themselves salary-wise.

But again, nothing wrong with any of these majors, just depends on what you want to do... I mean heck, some people actually go to school with dreams of being a proctologist

 

[SmallTown]

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Originally posted by T.Rally
From an entry level postion standpoint, you can't prove that.
You can also not provide me an entry level management position that an entry level accountant would not be qualified for.
Hate to burst all the managment and finance people's bubbles but accounting is the upper echelon of the business degrees.

There are plenty of "entry level" management positions here at my company that a new accounting major could not get. Accounting is a nice degree, but definately not the "world wide standard" of the business degrees.
I'll take a shot in the dark and say you're an accounting major?

 

[T.Rally]

Originally posted by SmallTown
One other difference is that many with accounting degrees only need/want an undergraduate degree, where as business and finance people tend to go on to grad school.
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You just helped prove my point. A CPA can earn as much or more as a management or finance person with a masters. Most accountants I know get their CPA then their MBA.

 

[T.Rally]

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Originally posted by SmallTown
There are plenty of "entry level" management positions here at my company that a new accounting major could not get. Accounting is a nice degree, but definately not the "world wide standard" of the business degrees.
I'll take a shot in the dark and say you're an accounting major?

What possibly made you think that? Out of curiosity, what exactly is an entry level management position?

 

[Erin]

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Originally posted by T.Rally
From an entry level postion standpoint, you can't prove that.
You can also not provide me an entry level management position that an entry level accountant would not be qualified for.
Hate to burst all the managment and finance people's bubbles but accounting is the upper echelon of the business degrees.

Sounds like your bubble needs burst. That's okay - you are all that.:razz2:

 

[SmallTown]

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Originally posted by T.Rally
What possibly made you think that? Out of curiosity, what exactly is an entry level management position?

You tell me, you brought it up..

Originally posted by T.Rally

From an entry level postion standpoint, you can't prove that.
You can also not provide me an entry level management position that an entry level accountant would not be qualified for.

 

[T.Rally]

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Originally posted by SmallTown
You tell me, you brought it up..

Dude, I'm trying to figure it out. I went out to the Wash comPost job section and I didn't even know how to search for a management position.

 

[SmallTown]

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Originally posted by T.Rally
Dude, I'm trying to figure it out. I went out to the Wash comPost job section and I didn't even know how to search for a management position.

Then how can you make comments about what different majors are qualified for if you don't know what the positions are?

 

[T.Rally]

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Originally posted by SmallTown
Then how can you make comments about what different majors are qualified for if you don't know what the positions are?

Because I don't think there is such a thing as an entry level management position. You don't go into managing a company\organization straight out of college. The degree only gets your foot in the door to start out at the very bottom to work your way up. This is why you end up with so many college graduates waiting tables, the pay is better. The metro DC area has probably the most educated people waiting tables. Out of all of them, I can almost assure you that none are accounting majors.

 

[SmallTown]

breakdown of business classes for typical accounting and finance degrees... Take whichever route you feel is more interesting.

Accounting:
Introduction to Business Information Systems
Principles of Accounting
Principles of Economics
Quantitative Methods
Personal Computers in Business
Financial Accounting
Cost Accounting
Accounting Systems & Controls
Production and Operations Management
Introduction to Finance
Management Theory and Leadership Practice
Marketing Management
Income Tax
Auditing Accounting Application Development
Legal Environment of Business
Business Policy and Strategy

Finance:
Introduction to Business Information Systems
Scientific Reasoning and Discovery
Scientific Reasoning and Discovery Laboratory
Principles of Accounting
Principles of Economics
Quantitative Methods
Introduction to Finance
Computer Based Financial Analysis
Legal Environment of Business
Management Theory & Leadership Practice
Production and Operations Management
Marketing Management
Intermediate Financial Management
Investment Analysis and Equity Markets
Interest Rates and Debt Markets
Advanced Financial Management

 

[SmallTown]

What is going to really suck is if pixie come on here and says neither track is interesting... Then we both just wasted valuable bandwith on nothing

 

[T.Rally]

Originally posted by SmallTown
What is going to really suck is if pixie come on here and says neither track is interesting... Then we both just wasted valuable bandwith on nothing

That I agree. I do like the breakdown between finance and accouting. I will only say that there is way more to it than that. I'm sure that hold true for finance also. I say what I say based on experience, people who can't hack the accounting curriculum wash out into management and finance. Its a fact. Its never the other way around.

 

[SmallTown]

Originally posted by T.Rally
That I agree. I do like the breakdown between finance and accouting. I will only say that there is way more to it than that. I'm sure that hold true for finance also. I say what I say based on experience, people who can't hack the accounting curriculum wash out into management and finance. Its a fact. Its never the other way around.

There are possible some in-major electives, but these were from the 2003 course checklist from Virginia Tech.

If you saw that happening, we can't say for sure WHY they would leave accounting for finance. It could simply be that one they got to their junior year, the classes didn't interest them.

I think I would find Investment Analysis and Equity Markets more interesting then Cost Accounting, but for people who really love the number crunching I can see where the opposite could be true as well.

 

[pixiegirl]

No more fighting!

I'm just going to be a stripper.

 

[crabcake]

I bet Kwillia has an av for that occupation you can use!

 

[T.Rally]

Originally posted by SmallTown
If you saw that happening, we can't say for sure WHY they would leave accounting for finance. It could simply be that one they got to their junior year, the classes didn't interest them.

I think I would find Investment Analysis and Equity Markets more interesting then Cost Accounting, but for people who really love the number crunching I can see where the opposite could be true as well.

See, in accounting, everyone knows that Intermediate Accounting I is the make or break class. If you fail this class or get lower than a B, most likely accounting isn't for you. All the people who originally thought they were accounting majors or weren't sure, this class will be the deciding factor. If they fail, they change majors to finance or management because you don't need this class for those majors and you don't have to take the string of beauties that ensue like Intermed II, Advanced I an II and
auditing.

Most accountants hate cost accounting, totally different thinking.

 

[Christy]

I think I'd shoot myself before ever becoming an accountant. It would drive me batty.

I'd go with the computer related degree Pixie, it gives you many more options. The career list is endless. You can work for DoD, Private Industry, whatever. You can do programming, database building, information security, etc etc...

But whatever you do, just make sure YOU like what your doing.

 

[SmallTown]

Well, if none of the options given here interest you, perhaps take a look at these careers.

http://www.popsci.com/popsci/science/article/0,12543,484153,00.html

 

[nomoney]

No more fighting!

I'm just going to be a stripper.

:shrug:

 

[rack'm]

:shrug:

$2, same as in town.......