Muslim Macadamia Mayham.
Okay, so I don't really understand this
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LightRoasted
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Here's a fella that countered the then current dogma, which still applies today ......
Here's a fella that countered the then current dogma, which still applies today ......
PeoplesElbow
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Do you care as much about how Saudi Arabia treats women?
LightRoasted
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Are you referring to the majority of Muslim countries? Or just Saudi Arabia? They don't tell us how to live our lives. Nothing wrong with having well behaved women. Besides, it is their culture. Been that way of thousands of years. How about this: Are you ok with female genital mutilation (FGM) or circumcision, being done on girls and women in Muslim countries such as Saudi Arabia? If not, why are you not against male genital mutilation (MGM) or circumcision, here in the US?
Are you referring to the majority of Muslim countries? Or just Saudi Arabia? They don't tell us how to live our lives. Nothing wrong with having well behaved women. Besides, it is their culture. Been that way of thousands of years. How about this: Are you ok with female genital mutilation (FGM) or circumcision, being done on girls and women in Muslim countries such as Saudi Arabia? If not, why are you not against male genital mutilation (MGM) or circumcision, here in the US?
PeoplesElbow
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Actually I don't give a crap about anyone over there, but unlike you I don't pretend to.
LightRoasted
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Who's pretending? We, the US, give, (though I haven't the foggiest notion why), Israel billions of our dollars every year. While we here in the US don't tolerate racism, bigotry, discrimination, nor hate crimes, against any race, apparently it is just fine and dandy when Israel does it against Arab people, with our money. I do not want the US supporting and financing an apartheid state. Simple as that.
Who's pretending? We, the US, give, (though I haven't the foggiest notion why), Israel billions of our dollars every year. While we here in the US don't tolerate racism, bigotry, discrimination, nor hate crimes, against any race, apparently it is just fine and dandy when Israel does it against Arab people, with our money. I do not want the US supporting and financing an apartheid state. Simple as that.
PeoplesElbow
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From all your other posts I'm pretty sure you're just a jew hater. I really don't care about Israel, but nations such as Saudi Arabia openly discriminate against non-muslims. If one wishes to become a citizen of Saudi Arabia they must convert. I don't really care, but what I don't like is sanctimonious bags of wind.
LightRoasted
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Per your now deleted post, @Kyle. It's better to be thought a supporter of genocide, than to speak and remove all doubt.
That's right, take the easy way out, stereotyping. Such intellectual laziness. So I'm a jew hater? Because I don't, haven't, drank the Israel cool-aid? Any speech against Israel is taboo and off the table? Questioning and challenging the dogma that is Israel, makes one a jew hater? What's it really like for you, and others, to carry the water, get on bended knee, for the psychopaths in Israel? Do you get kudo points or something? Someone around to give you a pat on the back for doing a good programmed job defending an apartheid state? It is amazing that when one speaks the truth, suddenly they become sanctimonious.
What your problem is, as well as others, is that you have been so programmed with lies and propaganda throughout life, that even the smallest bit of truthful criticism of Israel, or Zionist jews or Bolshevik jews, just can't compute in your head as no amount of reason can ever resonate. It is obvious that you do care. Care what others think of you of you if were to go against the propaganda, critically think, and speak those thoughts in the public square. What you have, known in the psychology world, is cognitive dissonance.
You say, "but nations such as Saudi Arabia openly discriminate against non-muslims." Yup, they sure do. But they don't have anti-discrimination laws like we do here in all 50 states, as well on the federal level. And they don't go about indiscriminately killing them either, or bulldozing their homes.
Per your now deleted post, @Kyle. It's better to be thought a supporter of genocide, than to speak and remove all doubt.
That's right, take the easy way out, stereotyping. Such intellectual laziness. So I'm a jew hater? Because I don't, haven't, drank the Israel cool-aid? Any speech against Israel is taboo and off the table? Questioning and challenging the dogma that is Israel, makes one a jew hater? What's it really like for you, and others, to carry the water, get on bended knee, for the psychopaths in Israel? Do you get kudo points or something? Someone around to give you a pat on the back for doing a good programmed job defending an apartheid state? It is amazing that when one speaks the truth, suddenly they become sanctimonious.
What your problem is, as well as others, is that you have been so programmed with lies and propaganda throughout life, that even the smallest bit of truthful criticism of Israel, or Zionist jews or Bolshevik jews, just can't compute in your head as no amount of reason can ever resonate. It is obvious that you do care. Care what others think of you of you if were to go against the propaganda, critically think, and speak those thoughts in the public square. What you have, known in the psychology world, is cognitive dissonance.
You say, "but nations such as Saudi Arabia openly discriminate against non-muslims." Yup, they sure do. But they don't have anti-discrimination laws like we do here in all 50 states, as well on the federal level. And they don't go about indiscriminately killing them either, or bulldozing their homes.
Oh, you've left me no doubt.
PeoplesElbow
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I don't care about anyone over there and hope they all kill each other.
Only reason for my post is I saw through your bullshit, you have annoyed me to no end and I wanted to pick a fight. You think way too highly of yourself.
Sneakers
Just sneakin' around....
Seems to me he's been called that before.
I've worked with MANY Muslims - and they're usually congenial about everything. Bring up the subject of Israel, it's another matter. They will claim they do not oppose JEWS but oppose Israel - or Zionism -
But eventually they ridicule Jews, mock their religion, and reveal that yeah, they hate Jews.
All that other crap is just a way to politely talk around it.
It's not just Jews either.
So I don’t use a Jew/Palestinian scale to determine who’s right in this situation. I tend to use a who’s stupider here scale. Now the Pals are fighting from a hole, overmatched in tech, arms and manpower. Given a choice the jews would much rather have a partner in the peace process, not only does it give them peace it gives them legitimacy in their home. What the Pals have that’s causing the biggest part of their problem is they have a bunch of Muslims telling them to hang in there just a little while longer and they’ll be the victors. The sooner the Pals realize that the Jews are there to stay the better the area will be.
LightRoasted
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Don't mistake my writing with conviction as me thinking highly of myself. You're thinking of a narcissist, which I am not.
But then ..... all this bickering about jews and Palestinians takes us away from addressing our own problems we face right here, with the intentional destruction of our Nation. Not incompetence, mind you. Intentional. Intentionally going against the wishes of the people. Intentionally not enforcing the laws. Intentionally violating the US Constitution. Etc..
Don't mistake my writing with conviction as me thinking highly of myself. You're thinking of a narcissist, which I am not.
But then ..... all this bickering about jews and Palestinians takes us away from addressing our own problems we face right here, with the intentional destruction of our Nation. Not incompetence, mind you. Intentional. Intentionally going against the wishes of the people. Intentionally not enforcing the laws. Intentionally violating the US Constitution. Etc..
For the orthodox Muslim, the Koran's commands are valid for all time. Fifteen hundred years later, Iran's Ayatollah Khomeini (a better authority on the Koran than any of us) is able to say, "Islam says: Kill all the unbelievers just as they would kill you all! Islam says Kill them (the non-Muslims), put them to the sword and scatter [their armies]. Kill in the service of Allah those who may want to kill you!"
If I have to take a side, it will be on the side of those wanting peace who respond to cowardly attacks with corresponding force. Others are drinking the Islamic Kool-Aid and find fault in Israel for their response to terrorism.
If I have to take a side, it will be on the side of those wanting peace who respond to cowardly attacks with corresponding force. Others are drinking the Islamic Kool-Aid and find fault in Israel for their response to terrorism.