OMG Gas Water Heater Prices

PeoplesElbow

PeoplesElbow

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I decided it was time to replace my mom's water heater before it decides to take a dump all over the floor. I go to Lowes and Home Depot to check prices and about take a dump on the floor myself. Last one was put in 10 years ago and cost about $250, now they are about $700 wtf?
 
Sneakers

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PeoplesElbow said:
I decided it was time to replace my mom's water heater before it decides to take a dump all over the floor. I go to Lowes and Home Depot to check prices and about take a dump on the floor myself. Last one was put in 10 years ago and cost about $250, now they are about $700 wtf?
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Did you check the prices on the hybrids?
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Gilligan

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I had to replace the 70 gallon propane water heater in our island clubhouse a few years back and was informed that I had purchased one of the last they made of that size. It has to support 5 bedroom baths and the main clubhouse, so a 50 won't cut it.
 
NextJen

NextJen

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I just had to replace the over 15 year old electric water heater at my new place. Since it’s not around here and I didn’t have anyone I know to help me, I called a plumber. If that wasn’t pricey enough, they had to also install a breaker next to it and an expansion tank to bring it up to code. $$$$$$$
 
Clem72

Clem72

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Gilligan said:
I had to replace the 70 gallon propane water heater in our island clubhouse a few years back and was informed that I had purchased one of the last they made of that size. It has to support 5 bedroom baths and the main clubhouse, so a 50 won't cut it.
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You could Daisy chain two 40s assuming you have the space. This would also have the benefit that you could turn the first one off if you have lower occupancy.
 
DoWhat

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Gilligan said:
I had to replace the 70 gallon propane water heater in our island clubhouse a few years back and was informed that I had purchased one of the last they made of that size. It has to support 5 bedroom baths and the main clubhouse, so a 50 won't cut it.
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Tankless.
 
Clem72

Clem72

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Electric tankless only really works at point of use. Great if you have one shower one the far side of the compound that never gets hot.

But propane tankless is great. I don't remember the specs on the one I installed 20 years ago, but with only a 1/2" gas supply it worked very well for 3 bathrooms + kitchen, could have every sink, dishwasher, and showers running at the same time. I assume a larger one with a 3/4" supply could meet Gilligan's needs.
 
Gilligan

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DoWhat said:
Propane.
We have one here and love it.
Taylor gas installed it.
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We're trying not to increase our propane use too. Hauling diesel fuel and propane a mile offshore in smallish ski ifs ain't much fun. Currently the 70-gal hot water heater and the two kitchen ranges are the only propane consumers we have.

We recently added loop controls to our hot water lines, plumbing that run 70+ feet in each direction from the water heater to feed all the rooms (2 wings of them). Thermostatically controlled valve and small pump that keeps the hot water always available right at the tap or shower in every room. Made a huge difference in water useage and the load on our two septic systems; before that mod, you'd have to run the hot water for a good 10-15 minutes to get hot water if you were in one of the end rooms.
 
Gilligan

Gilligan

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Clem72 said:
Electric tankless only really works at point of use. Great if you have one shower one the far side of the compound that never gets hot.

But propane tankless is great. I don't remember the specs on the one I installed 20 years ago, but with only a 1/2" gas supply it worked very well for 3 bathrooms + kitchen, could have every sink, dishwasher, and showers running at the same time. I assume a larger one with a 3/4" supply could meet Gilligan's needs.
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We've got 10 bathrooms plus the kitchen to supply hot water to. I liked the idea of a tankless solution but the only option I was "allowed" to consider was individual electric in each room; the proponents behind our fancy new hybrid solar/wind/generator power system insisted everything possible had to be electric.
 
Clem72

Clem72

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Gilligan said:
We're trying not to increase our propane use too. Hauling diesel fuel and propane a mile offshore in smallish ski ifs ain't much fun. Currently the 70-gal hot water heater and the two kitchen ranges are the only propane consumers we have.

We recently added loop controls to our hot water lines, plumbing that run 70+ feet in each direction from the water heater to feed all the rooms (2 wings of them). Thermostatically controlled valve and small pump that keeps the hot water always available right at the tap or shower in every room. Made a huge difference in water useage and the load on our two septic systems; before that mod, you'd have to run the hot water for a good 10-15 minutes to get hot water if you were in one of the end rooms.
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Stupid question, but have you considered solar water heater (like with the pool). Often times even in winter these will get you 80% of the way there (like 100 degree water) and then a tiny water heater can keep up with heating the already warm water to 120-130 at a much higher volume than it could 50-70 degree water.

Edit--> Just realized this would probably require a very large solar heater to keep up with your demand so probably not practical either.
 
black dog

black dog

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Clem72 said:
Stupid question, but have you considered solar water heater (like with the pool). Often times even in winter these will get you 80% of the way there (like 100 degree water) and then a tiny water heater can keep up with heating the already warm water to 120-130 at a much higher volume than it could 50-70 degree water.
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So you're asking an Engineer, if he did his due diligence on this project.
 
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